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Btw, aks mazda bro dude what happens if one of the Mexican made mazda3 sedans breaks.
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The 2011-2015 Mazda2 was too beautiful for this (American) world.
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Oct 14, 2015 20:04
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Phone posted:The 2011-2015 Mazda2 was too beautiful for this (American) world. Americans like angry cars. Every 10th car in Vienna seemed to be a mazda2. Clearly they're just more cultured than us.
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Oct 14, 2015 23:17
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Car and driver seems to worship the scion, and consumer reports doesn't have much. What are some other good sites for car reviews? Are motortrend and automobile good sites?
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Oct 15, 2015 06:51
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Whether you like the car or not is basically the biggest determinant of whether you should buy it. Who cares what a 50 year old crochety white guy thinks about a car that he drove for 24h?
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Oct 15, 2015 12:37
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Whether you like the car or not is basically the biggest determinant of whether you should buy it. Who cares what a 50 year old crochety white guy thinks about a car that he drove for 24h? Yeah, I see reviews as an indicator of what to look at and what not to look at, but not to determine if I like a car I drove. I might use it for a car I was going to track or AX to get some idea of what it would be like in conditions I can't get on a test drive, but barring that I wouldn't. I do put some stock in long term reviews when they complain about poo poo breaking and I do think that CR's reliability ratings are useful, but the new scion is too new to have reliability data on it.
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Oct 15, 2015 20:40
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Proposed Budget: Flexible, $15-30k New or Used: Whatever, I intend to drive it for 125k miles. Body Style: 4dr, not compact, sedan/stationwagon/crossover. How will you be using the car?: Daily commuter, 60 miles / 1-2 hours a day round trip carpooling. What aspects are most important to you? reliability, cost of ownership, bluetooth phone+music. I am 6'4", no sun roofs need apply. Need a car for The Future(tm) where there could be a stroller in the trunk. I own a fun car, 4cylinder slushboxes are what I'm looking to buy! Looked at a Ford Fusion Hybrid Energi (plugin) but they consume the whole trunk with the Hybrid Energi part of it, and the Hybrid isn't much better. Looking on the website, I see some killer deals on the regular Fusion ($22k-25k, $0 down 0% APR.) Is there anything I should be aware of there? There is a 2.5L and a 1.5L "Ecoboost" - Any mechanical issues with one over the other? The other car I'm looking at is a used Toyota Camry LE @ ~$17k. Cars I don't like: Mazda3, Mazda6 (crummy interior), Corolla (size), Venza (strange seat+stearing wheel angles). What say you internet? Anything I'm not thinking of?
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Oct 15, 2015 23:05
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Accord. Various Hyundais. edit: prius/prius V
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Oct 15, 2015 23:12
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I really like the Kia Optima/Hyundai Sonata in this class and the Honda Accord is always a favorite.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:19
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I had a '14 Accord with the EarthDreams 4cyl and a CVT as a rental for a week - honestly it was a lot more fun than I expected it to be. They've also done a hell of a job with the CVT. The power/weight on it is very similar to my '13 CR-V (older K24 and 5-speed Hondamatic) but the CVT kicks down so quickly that it makes the car feel much quicker. I think the newest Accords support Android Auto and Apple Carplay, too. No idea how well they handle regular bluetooth, but the bluetooth in my CR-V is useless for anything other than audio streaming because there's a massive delay in it.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:32
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IOwnCalculus posted:I had a '14 Accord with the EarthDreams 4cyl and a CVT as a rental for a week - honestly it was a lot more fun than I expected it to be. They've also done a hell of a job with the CVT. The power/weight on it is very similar to my '13 CR-V (older K24 and 5-speed Hondamatic) but the CVT kicks down so quickly that it makes the car feel much quicker. I haven't tried an Accord. I will give it a go, thanks. No worries on the CVT lifespan these days? Our 2013 Civic is fine as far as bluetooth streaming and phone. Big delay in the streaming but whatever.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:49
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H110Hawk posted:I haven't tried an Accord. I will give it a go, thanks. No worries on the CVT lifespan these days? I think Honda's CVT is too new to say for sure, honestly. I'm quite certain the K24/5-speed I have will last forever, but the EarthDreams/CVT is so much nicer to drive it actually made me consider trading my '13 for a '15.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:55
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IOwnCalculus posted:I had a '14 Accord with the EarthDreams 4cyl and a CVT as a rental for a week - honestly it was a lot more fun than I expected it to be. They've also done a hell of a job with the CVT. The power/weight on it is very similar to my '13 CR-V (older K24 and 5-speed Hondamatic) but the CVT kicks down so quickly that it makes the car feel much quicker. I'm six feet tall and had headroom and legroom issues in the drivers' seat of the new 2016 Accord. Great otherwise, though. The new Sonata is big and has a huge trunk, Android Auto and Apple Carplay and the panoramic moonroof is rad. H110Hawk, you could also look at the Impreza/Crosstrek hatches, both are good dad cars and cheap. Or the Forester/Outback for even more "utility".
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Oct 16, 2015 00:03
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H110Hawk posted:Proposed Budget: Flexible, $15-30k The Fusion lags behind the competition in build quality and fuel economy, the interior and rear seat room is definitely not better than the Mazda, but you will probably be able to get them cheap. Try a Passat or Golf wagon, they should be just as cheap as the Ford especially with dieselgate, I like the interior of the VW better than Fords and you will have more room since the passat doesnt have the ridiculous fastback roofline and the wagon is a wagon. New Impala is very nice too, and GM dealers always be dealin
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Oct 16, 2015 00:16
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Throatwarbler posted:The Fusion lags behind the competition in build quality and fuel economy, the interior and rear seat room is definitely not better than the Mazda, but you will probably be able to get them cheap. Interesting. I used to have a VW Jetta (2000, mk4). It was expensive to fix, but I was young and stupid and took it to the dealer please forgive me. I had largely written them off due to the defeat device and principles, but who knows. A GM car hadn't even crossed my mind. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:edit: prius/prius V My neckbeard will not let me forgive the obnoxiously loud beep when it goes into reverse. Unless they can turn that off before I sign any paperwork it's a non-starter for me. I would want to push the car off a cliff every time I went to back up, and that's just not a healthy way to start the morning.
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Oct 16, 2015 01:06
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H110Hawk posted:Interesting. I used to have a VW Jetta (2000, mk4). It was expensive to fix, but I was young and stupid and took it to the dealer please forgive me. I had largely written them off due to the defeat device and principles, but who knows. Well, I woudn't recommend you buy afive year old one, but a new one under warranty, with free maintainance for 36k miles, is not so bad. Certainly the current gas passat or sportwagen is no worse if not better than the fusion according to the reliability surveys.
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Oct 16, 2015 01:41
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A new VW is miles ahead of an early MkIV golf-platform, which was a low point even by VW's standards. Still not up to Japanese automakers, but a lot better than they were.
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Oct 16, 2015 02:00
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H110Hawk posted:Interesting. I used to have a VW Jetta (2000, mk4). It was expensive to fix, but I was young and stupid and took it to the dealer please forgive me. I had largely written them off due to the defeat device and principles, but who knows. You can definitely disable that poo poo but please do not because people outside the car can't hear that the car is running. As someone who has driven vehicles with a reverse chime, it will cease to bother you within four days.
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Oct 16, 2015 12:18
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:You can definitely disable that poo poo but please do not because people outside the car can't hear that the car is running. It beeps loudly (not 'chimes') inside the vehicle, not outside. What I've read online says you cannot disable it on later model years. Is this not true?
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Oct 16, 2015 15:08
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H110Hawk posted:It beeps loudly (not 'chimes') inside the vehicle, not outside. What I've read online says you cannot disable it on later model years. Is this not true? It's calleda reverse chime and I guarantee you the aftermarket one that is installed on a construction vehicle is way more annoying and is also forgettable. All things are disable-able somehow, I don't think those people are trying hard enough.
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Oct 16, 2015 18:15
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The only way it would be not-disableable (at least without heroic hacking) would be if it shares the actual noisemaker with other vehicle functions.
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Oct 16, 2015 18:30
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AriTheDog posted:I'm six feet tall and had headroom and legroom issues in the drivers' seat of the new 2016 Accord. I don't know how much the interior changed between the '14 and '16, but at 6'4 I was just fine in the '14. Only Honda I've ever had trouble with (which would be putting it mildly) is the S2000.
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Oct 16, 2015 18:34
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It's called a reverse chime and I guarantee you the aftermarket one that is installed on a construction vehicle is way more annoying and is also forgettable. And if I am driving construction equipment then I will live with the beeper. It's just not for me. I'll just buy a different base-ish model econobox. IOwnCalculus posted:I don't know how much the interior changed between the '14 and '16, but at 6'4 I was just fine in the '14. Only Honda I've ever had trouble with (which would be putting it mildly) is the S2000. I've found this depends on leg:torso ratio. I fit comfortably enough in a Honda Civic LX, but I don't fit at all in the EX due to the sunroof for the same model year. S2000's are comedic even as a passenger, and I can't even get my knees past the dash in a Miata (not the MX-5, the older body style.)
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Oct 16, 2015 18:50
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H110Hawk posted:a Miata (not the MX-5, the older body style.) They're all MX-5s. NA, NB, NC, and soon ND.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:19
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VideoTapir posted:They're all MX-5s. NA, NB, NC, and soon ND. While technically true, the NC was the only one marketed under the MX-5 name and not Miata. The NA, NB, and ND have all been marketed as Miata (or sometimes MX-5 Miata). At least in the US.
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Oct 16, 2015 19:55
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I'm 6'3" and I really want to buy a Mazda 3 and not a Prius. Will I fit comfortably in the Mazda?
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Oct 16, 2015 21:53
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khysanth posted:I'm 6'3" and I really want to buy a Mazda 3 and not a Prius. Will I fit comfortably in the Mazda? I dunno, go sit in it. I'm taller than you and fit in a mazda2, but not in prius (comfortably).
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Oct 16, 2015 21:56
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Cars are funny. Everyone says Volvos are good for tall folks but I can't get my knees under their massive steering columns easily. I was both disappointed (V60 is a gorgeous car) and relieved (it's pretty spendy especially in the top end trim I'd want (polestar)).
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Oct 16, 2015 22:00
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H110Hawk posted:Proposed Budget: Flexible, $15-30k All reliability issues aside (and there are certainly reliability issues - I just had to lemon law my Fusion, car from hell for sure) headroom in them sucks. I'm 6'4" myself and I always felt a bit cramped in the Fusion when it came to headroom. I know it's not AI recommended, but take a look at Ford Taurus in your area. They're not incredibly modern but they're fairly reliable, have a massive trunk, they're cheap as hell to fix, and you can get used ones for a song. Seriously, around here you can get a near loaded Limited model with under 20k miles for the $20-23k range. They depreciate loving quick over the first couple years so they're a fantastic bargain for used car shoppers. No way in hell are they worth $37k, but they're a steal at $20 and some change.
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Oct 17, 2015 03:20
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I think the entire population of 6'4" people in the world are posting in this thread.
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Oct 17, 2015 03:26
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I'm 5'10" and I'm completely baffled by you tall jerks' aversion to sunroofs, do they make the car shorter or something? Also please stop standing in front at concerts, it's rude.
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Oct 17, 2015 04:01
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IRQ posted:I'm 5'10" and I'm completely baffled by you tall jerks' aversion to sunroofs, do they make the car shorter or something? Also please stop standing in front at concerts, it's rude. They cut room inside. Some can cut 2-3" from interior headroom. That sunroof has to have a place to go when it lowers down and folds in. Open the sliding door on a sunroof and look at the bottom of the glass - that's where a non-sunroof model's roofline would be.
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Oct 17, 2015 04:19
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IRQ posted:I'm 5'10" and I'm completely baffled by you tall jerks' aversion to sunroofs, do they make the car shorter or something? Also please stop standing in front at concerts, it's rude. Yes and buy some stilts.
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Oct 17, 2015 04:36
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I find the panoramic type where the glass goes up and slides back is great although still cuts a little bit for the tracks where the interior fabric cover goes. I'm very tall and always avoided moon roofs in the past but next car will definitely have a panoramic roof.
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Oct 17, 2015 04:39
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Do sunroof equipped cars have better or worse rollover protection, in general?
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Oct 17, 2015 05:52
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Hadlock posted:Do sunroof equipped cars have better or worse rollover protection, in general? Compared to cars that don't have a sunroof as an option, no idea. Compared to non-sunroof trims of the same car, no difference - if the car can be had with a sunroof, they're not likely going to put anything structural where the sunroof would go. The important poo poo is usually near the corners anyway.
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Oct 17, 2015 06:02
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I do not understand all of the people asking if they can fit in certain cars. We have no idea, and they have these facilities throughout the globe where you can sit in a car and even drive it around without buying it! Go to one of them.
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Oct 18, 2015 15:38
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EssOEss posted:My current car is dying of rust and lung cancer, so perhaps it is time for a new one. I want to buy a car that can take me and my friends hiking to the middle of bum gently caress nowhere on "roads". I have found a reasonably-priced Nissan Patrol Y61, 3.0L 116 kW, 2001 but I am having difficulty finding reliable information about it online. Is this a car that might suit my needs?
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Oct 18, 2015 21:10
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Is it a good idea to buy a car on an online service through truecar or Consumer Reports, or is emailing dealers and asking for price quotes just as good?
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Generally one can negotiate better than the car buying services and sites on their own, but if you don't enjoy or understand the car haggling process there are worse ways to buy a car
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