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It's scary how many people don't understand that hating a character is part of the joy of partaking in media. The phrase "love to hate" has a long history, and penises have nothing to do with it. Narcissists, weasels and people that casually disregard others are easy to hate. Look at the reaction to Lester last season. It has nothing to do with penises, please keep that poo poo out of the thread.
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Pretty sure misogyny has a lot to do with it but ok
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ICHIBAHN posted:Pretty sure misogyny has a lot to do with it but ok Do you see the
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ICHIBAHN posted:Pretty sure misogyny has a lot to do with it but ok "Hello, thread police? Yeah, we've got a Code Red."
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Oct 19, 2015 02:30
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The Curse of the Good Show's Thread strikes again
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Oct 19, 2015 02:49
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Oct 19, 2015 04:55
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MullardEL34 posted:
shoot, now we dont get to read all your hot takes
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i'm not sure we need to open all of these  but i hope its kind of uncontroversial that female characters in english-language tv shows are still often given much narrower roles than males, despite the progress of women's movements and all that. and the goon hate for skyler was very funny and bad
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pile of brown posted:How are people not getting that dunst's split screens show a)what she said and b)what she was actually doing? It was super significant and super obvious? Nope, it sure wasn't! To be clear, I'm all for the use of voice-over contradicting the action on screen. But not the split screen. They filmed 32 seconds of footage, cut it up and split-screened it into a 16 second segment for no reason. The left screen starts with her putting the magazines down on the mantelpiece, and cuts to her in front of her vanity, noticing a stain on her collar. The right screen shows her entering the room carrying the magazines, walking towards the mantelpiece, then cuts to her frantically scrubbing blood from her collar. So they are not two contrasting narratives, they are parts of a single narrative. If you re-cut it into a single screen by taking the first part of right screen, then entire left screen, then second part of right, it would make complete sense chronologically and dramatically, and still show that she was lying. There was no need for this at all. The editor probably heard someone mention "non-linear editing" and thought to himself "hey, that sounds cool, I'm gonna try that out at some random point whenever I get the opportunity!"
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Kampfbereit posted:¤ The meaningless split screen. Usually, split screens are employed when you want to show several simultaneous actions in different locations that are somehow linked, for instance in a heist movie (protagonist X is taking out the guards while Y is scaling the wall and Z is hacking the mainframe). Fargo showed the same actors on both screens, with the two different viewpoints just feet away from each other. Kampfbereit posted:Yes, but this would all have been better without the split screen. McCulkin's split screen was more or less OK I guess. Dunst's was plain terrible, as both screens showed her doing the same thing, but a few seconds apart. Kampfbereit posted:Maybe we are talking about different things here? I'm not saying that they shouldn't have shown her previous actions contradicting her statements. That was absolutely necessary, and juxtaposing the voice over with footage showing what actually happened is a common technique. I'm saying that there was absolutely no need to do that in a split screen. Kampfbereit posted:I'm all for the use of voice-over contradicting the action on screen. But not the split screen. yes, you studied film for a semester, we get it
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Oct 19, 2015 18:20
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Yes! Let's talk about Breaking Bad in every thread!
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Oct 19, 2015 19:21
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I really want to look at Kirsten Dunst being a dick some more.
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Steve2911 posted:I really want to look at Kirsten Dunst being a dick some more. What an odd way to phrase that.
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Moltke posted:Yes! Let's talk about Breaking Bad in every thread! this train will not stop
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Lutha Mahtin posted:i'm not sure we need to open all of these The first season of Fargo did a good job with Molly's character, in much the same way that the film did with Marge Gunderson. And the judge from the premiere of season 2 was definitely a strong female presence while she was alive. But yes, overall Western media does not do a good job with female characters. Bechdel test, et cetera.
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Oct 19, 2015 21:35
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women, am I right?
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Oct 19, 2015 22:42
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Oh hey look you guys the new episode's on
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Steve2911 posted:I really want to look at Kirsten Dunst being a dick some more. i am both disgusted and excited at the prospect of whatever this entails 
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Parasol Prophet posted:Oh hey look you guys the new episode's on Why would we talk about Fargo in the Fargo thread?
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LostRook posted:Why would we talk about Fargo in the Fargo thread? Because the show isn't set in Fargo. 
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precision posted:Because the show isn't set in Fargo. the geography of the movie and show is actually pretty interesting if you're from here. i live in minneapolis now but i grew up in west-central and northwestern minnesota, and i feel like the coens and hawley have done a good job at portraying some of the subtle nuances of place. i will try and remember to do a post with some actual effort on this later
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Oct 20, 2015 03:54
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Woodbine is enjoying the hell out of this role.
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Jesus Christ.  Hawley must've been disappointed he couldn't fit a woodchipper into season one.
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Jack Skeleton posted:Dunst hate flows strong. I thought her character worked great and the split screen did exactly what it needed to do. Not seeing any particular Dunst hate. Lots of split screens hate for some reason though.
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Great first two episodes! Personally I'm down with the split screens and don't think they detract from the show. I'm really digging the Kansas City crew and am excited to see where the syndicate off goes. What a cast, what a soundtrack!
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Episode 2 seemed rather expository. There were lots of interesting smaller things, but no huge holyshits in terms of major plot points, so it's hard to comment on things overall. Mike Milligan is creepy, but the intensity of his creepiness is kind of indeterminate. So far he's vaguely Malvo-esque in terms of tactical weirdo menacing, but with the twist that his lines were fed through the second prize winner of the Tarantino Dialogue Generator Contest. I did really enjoy his bit about the coffee maker, though. Also notable is that the stretch of land from Fargo to Luverne would have approximately, oh, 0.00 black or Jewish people in the year 1980, and I'm curious if this will be expanded upon in any way besides the throwaway comment or two made by the Fargo family sons. And finally, I'm curious where the Kansas City boss went off to between the crab pincer conversation and them getting stopped by ol' Teddy Danson. The other thing I have to comment on is, well, Meat Damon. so gross lol. and as we fade out from that mess, the voice-over at the end of the episode is from none other than War of the Worlds 
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I love that Mike Milligan has that kind of Elmore Leonard "bad guy who maybe isn't quite as smart as he thinks he is but isn't as dumb as others think either" thing going. The way he completely controlled the car stop scene was fantastic, especially considering the fact it's a black guy in the 70s being pulled over in the middle of nowhere by a white Sheriff.
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Jerusalem posted:I love that Mike Milligan has that kind of Elmore Leonard "bad guy who maybe isn't quite as smart as he thinks he is but isn't as dumb as others think either" thing going. The way he completely controlled the car stop scene was fantastic, especially considering the fact it's a black guy in the 70s being pulled over in the middle of nowhere by a white Sheriff. Mike reminded me a lot of random bad guys from Justified. That is a good way to sum him up.
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Toplowtech posted:She is a “a small town beautician with big city dreams who is trying to figure out who she really is and what she really wants as she struggles with traditional societal expectations." I somehow hope her character arc is joining the local Fargo mafia as a hit woman. I'm only 10 minutes into the second episode so I'm gonna wait a minute before reading the last couple dozen replies but my completely out there prediction is she's the mother of someone important in the season 1. e: This guy is channeling Obama. Frostwerks fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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The Chinaman is not the issue here, Mrs. Gerhardt
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Jerusalem posted:I love that Mike Milligan has that kind of Elmore Leonard "bad guy who maybe isn't quite as smart as he thinks he is but isn't as dumb as others think either" thing going. The way he completely controlled the car stop scene was fantastic, especially considering the fact it's a black guy in the 70s being pulled over in the middle of nowhere by a white Sheriff. Peggy's secret lesbian boss is so dead. Also Fat Damon is fat and sad. 
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Specifically the prog version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPYJgjRV0XQ
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Lutha Mahtin posted:I'm glad Jake Armitage is posting again this season, too: in S1 everyone thought he was insane because he was pulling out all these allegories to ancient Jewish mystical figures but then a couple episodes later everything he predicted made perfect sense I'm definitely hoping for another puzzle to solve this season. TVIV is hilariously poor at interpretive analysis (or any analysis, really) of what they watch, but I'll probably post my thoughts anyway  At least this thread is a little better than the Walking Dead thread.I actually already kind of have a theory brewing, but this season so far has been really slow paced and deliberate, which I kind of like, even if it makes it even harder to figure out what the show is getting at and what lore he's working from. The funniest part about last season was that all that demon stuff was pretty heavily telegraphed from the first episode, its just that it went right over all but like 3 or 4 people's head in this thread. The fun part was figuring out what specific mythology we were dealing with, but the rest of the thread was angry at even the suggestion that there was source material, and/or that anyone would care. But this season already has two hard references to aliens, so if anyone wants to get angry again at anyone interested in dissecting it as we go on, then.... 
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I must have missed the extraterrestrial reference in the past episode can someone fill me in?
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The thing that distracted Rye long enough for Kirsten Dunst to hit him with the car.
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