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Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Forever_Peace posted:

I remember you trashing Evans in the preseason and I went to go find the stats to do an effort post on why Evans was awesome, but came away completely convinced that Evans was nowhere near the tier of receiver he was being drafted as.

So thanks for that. People, listen to Spoeank.

If I convinced one person I did my job. :hfive:

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Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

kiimo posted:

I can't believe it but I think I'm going to be starting Bortles even after Ben comes back. Insane.

Don't start Bortles over Ben

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN
yea thats a bit too far. Its been a few weeks but Big Ben is ridic in that offense

Heisenator
Mar 30, 2010
Give RCobb and SEA DSt for Antonio Brown. Mash accept?

0.5ppr and I also have Leveon Bell.

Zypher
Sep 3, 2009

Rutgers

Your 2006
Mythical National
Champions!
Mash

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

Heisenator posted:

Give RCobb and SEA DSt for Antonio Brown. Mash accept?

0.5ppr and I also have Leveon Bell.

100% yes all day.

gingerberger
Jun 20, 2014

Gotta love my Squirtle Swag

T Bowl posted:

Bench him til he rushes for 3 tds and then you start him again and he gets 45 yards no tds... sounds pretty FF to me.

They call this "The Jeremy Hill"

punch drunk
Nov 12, 2006

Give up Cobb for Frank Gore? I need an RB since Lacy is laying fat fuckin turds every week and honestly Rodgers has so many targets now that Cobb isn't even looking good.

Ninja Bob
Nov 20, 2002




Bleak Gremlin
I didn't start Steve Smith because I thought he was still injured and I'm a big idiot and I hate myself.

EDIT: I also didn't start Lamar Miller because I "wanted to see if the new coaching would make a difference".

Ninja Bob fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Oct 19, 2015

Miko
May 20, 2001

Where I come from, there's no such thing as kryptonite.
SSSr was a late start for me, so I didn't get a chance for another bombastic day from him.

Would have been nice, but at least I have him on my roster for the byes.

dat one portagee
Dec 6, 2006

WAT DOIN BUG?
I'm glad Miller showed up, I just hope its consistent. Miami defense looked good too, but they were playing the Titans so we'll see if that holds uo

Suave Fedora
Jun 10, 2004
Dion has forsaken us

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Belichicanery rearing its ugly head something fierce.

Also big ups to Matty Stafford for filling in for Team Tyrod

drizzle
Jul 7, 2004

The world is a fine place and worth the fighting for and I hate very much to leave it.

coronaball posted:

Is Lacy still injured or re-injured or is this just a coaches decision? Very strange.

He's just fat as poo poo now

Bellmaker
Oct 18, 2008

Chapter DOOF



horseshit.png



(Yes, I'm second highest)

Bellmaker fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Oct 19, 2015

Metapod
Mar 18, 2012

dat one portagee posted:

I'm glad Miller showed up, I just hope its consistent. Miami defense looked good too, but they were playing the Titans so we'll see if that holds uo

Mariota was picking that defense apart when he had time

Magicpants
Sep 15, 2011


Certified Poster
i just need a space to brag

8 team, 0.5 PPR
QB Andrew Luck
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Matt Forte
RB Arian Foster
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Julian Edelman
TE Greg Olsen
K Stephen Gostkowski
DEF Bills
FLEX Donte Montcrief
FLEX Chris Johnson

Dez is on my bench lol
I am good at trades

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Magicpants posted:

i just need a space to brag

8 team, 0.5 PPR
QB Andrew Luck
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Matt Forte
RB Arian Foster
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Julian Edelman
TE Greg Olsen
K Stephen Gostkowski
DEF Bills
FLEX Donte Montcrief
FLEX Chris Johnson

Dez is on my bench lol
I am good at trades

Okay.

Magicpants
Sep 15, 2011


Certified Poster
this lineup would be impressive in a two-man league

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
On the other hand, 8 team league.

Eight.

yeah I eat ass
Mar 14, 2005

only people who enjoy my posting can replace this avatar
Why is every decision I make incorrect? This week I:

Benched Hill for Charmander/Melvin Gordon who combined for loving 1.8 points.
Benched Ryan for Palmer, a ~4 point loss
Benched Moncrief for Hurns, another ~4 points
Picked up Gano for my kicker spot, who got a measly 3 points

and I'm sure there's more I could have done but didn't. My RB situation is terrible and I'm basically writing this season off as I am now 1-5 unless OBJ scores 50 points. I might actually have to start Christine Michael next week now that Gordon has proved to be even more worthless than Hill.

Mr Gentleman
Apr 29, 2003

the Educated Villain of London

Thoughts on this?

12 man yahoo standard scoring in a bit of a vacuum:

Give: Megatron, Dion Lewis, Carlos Hyde

Get: Deandre Hopkins, Lacy

gingerberger
Jun 20, 2014

Gotta love my Squirtle Swag

Mr Gentleman posted:

Thoughts on this?

12 man yahoo standard scoring in a bit of a vacuum:

Give: Megatron, Dion Lewis, Carlos Hyde

Get: Deandre Hopkins, Lacy

As great as Nuk is I wouldn't want to do that right now. A week or 2 ago, sure, but Lacy's job looks legit in danger, megatron will be worse than Nuk ROS, but Lewis + Hyde could be >> Lacy if Starks becomes the starter.

Harold Cooplowski
Sep 11, 2013

Magicpants posted:

i just need a space to brag

8 team, 0.5 PPR
QB Andrew Luck
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Matt Forte
RB Arian Foster
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Julian Edelman
TE Greg Olsen
K Stephen Gostkowski
DEF Bills
FLEX Donte Montcrief
FLEX Chris Johnson

Dez is on my bench lol
I am good at trades

This is mine in my 12-team money league AFTER losing Jamaal Charles :colbert:

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps

Harold Cooplowski posted:

This is mine in my 12-team money league AFTER losing Jamaal Charles :colbert:



This is my starting lineup in a 10 man:

QB: Palmer or Newton
WR: Antonio Brown
WR: Randall Cobb
WR: Emmanuel Sanders
RB: LeVeon Bell
RB: Arian Foster
TE: Gronk
K: Giants one
DB: Harrison Smith
DL: Khalil Mack
LB: Anthony Barr
LB: Preston Brown

Guess what my record is?? Guess it?? Guess it??

It's now 2-4 after this loving week

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

89 posted:

It's now 2-4 after this loving week

I think you're supposed to post this

Thelonius Van Funk
Apr 7, 2007
Oh boy
I set my season personal best with 134 and Bradford still left to play! And of course I'm up against the guy that got the new league season record of 175

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Magicpants posted:

i just need a space to brag

8 team, 0.5 PPR
QB Andrew Luck
QB Aaron Rodgers
RB Matt Forte
RB Arian Foster
WR Calvin Johnson
WR Julian Edelman
TE Greg Olsen
K Stephen Gostkowski
DEF Bills
FLEX Donte Montcrief
FLEX Chris Johnson

Dez is on my bench lol
I am good at trades

Congrats on your subpar WRs and weak flexes, I guess. You should really look into upgrading your QB2 as well.

Freezer
Apr 20, 2001

The Earth is the cradle of the mind, but one cannot stay in the cradle forever.
So is Melvin Gordon droppable yet? I need to make room in my bench for the Denver defense and his underperforming rear end has delivered nothing all year long.

Forever_Peace
May 7, 2007

Shoe do do do do do do do
Shoe do do do do do do yeah
Shoe do do do do do do do
Shoe do do do do do do yeah
Trade Targets for Week 7

Antonio Brown - Past three stat lines have been 5/42/0, 3/45/0, and 3/24/0. And these paltry scores probably sting all the more for the current owner because I doubt they've been sitting AB84. He should bounce back as soon as Big Ben comes back (and it actually doesn't look like there are many trades involving AB84 at the moment so most people seem aware of this), but there's a good chance he might be devalued at the moment. Float offers to the tune of Gore+Cooper range to start with, but I would feel good about value all the way up to Foster+Alshon if you had the depth.

Randall Cobb - Also three similarly disappointing games, but this time due to double-coverage and an injured shoulder. Add in a week 7 bye followed by intimidating games against Denver and Carolina, and I think struggling teams might sell him for a song. Like, for Greg Olsen or Gio or JStew. Of course, you'd be assuming the risk I just discussed above, so I'd temper expectations. But I think they'll be able to scheme him open more as teams continue to be trashed by ARodg2Jones/Janis/whoever and have to adjust to a more honest defense.

AJ Green - Again, not actually many trades involving him right now on Yahoo, but he's posted a few weeks of solid WR2 numbers followed by a disappointing game this week. He looks fine and I'd feel out the owner.

Julio Jones - For some unfathomable reason, one of the most traded players on Yahoo right now. I don't know why people are selling, but treat him like the WR1.

Ingram - Also one of the most traded players on yahoo right now. Had a great week with 2 touchdowns, but people watching the game will have noticed that the snap share was without a doubt a three-headed monster, with Khiry and Spiller both getting much-deserved touches. Nonetheless, Ingram has been getting it done all season on limited touches thanks to his piece of the passing game. If the owner wants face value, forget about it. But if the owner is worried about the timeshare, see if you can land him for a low WR2/RB2 combination. Value Ingram like a solid ppr flex.

Matt Ryan - Continues to be consistent without posting numbers that are too gaudy. I like his schedule and his floor.

Dion Lewis - People hate managing Belichick backs. Lewis owns anyways. Go get him.

Sell high: Miller, Stafford, JStew, John Brown, Torrey Smith, Amendola

Don't sell it's for real: Rivers, Luck, Nuke, Alshon, Megatron, BMarsh, TY, Ivory, Foster, McCoy, Freeman

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
Am I weird for wanting to bench Lacy in favor of Starks? I don't know what the problem is over there.

THE MACHO MAN
Nov 15, 2007

...Carey...

draw me like one of your French Canadian girls

365 Nog Hogger posted:

So can I even sell Lacy/Cobb at this point or am I doomed

yes, just sold Lacy + Baldwin for ODB + Blount. People are very willing to give 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances to players attached to Rogers, Brady, Peyton, Brees, etc. Exploit that if you want to trade. Just keep repeating how he was a top 5 pick, he's historically performed at that level for his career and 3-4 bad games is a cold streak not a trend.

But after this sunday you are probably going to get lowballed a ton. Try trading wed or thurs when it's not so fresh in people's heads. FWIW I would be way more confident about Cobb still being an elite option at his position. Yes lots of mouths at WR there, but he's the only one with that kind of skillset so he'll get 95% of the snaps. Starks is good enough that Lacy could get back on track and still lose a decent amount of snaps to him, esp if they're concerned about Lacy's health

punch drunk posted:

Give up Cobb for Frank Gore? I need an RB since Lacy is laying fat fuckin turds every week and honestly Rodgers has so many targets now that Cobb isn't even looking good.

hell no man. Gore is fine as an RB2 maybe RB1 in some spots but Cobb straight up has more value. I think Gore will still be the lead back by a safe margin with Bradshaw there, and he's good at blocking/catching too, but that team looks like they will behind a lot, which is when Bradshaw would get the call more I think. You should be able to get a bit more than that, even if it isn't a 1:1 trade.

THE MACHO MAN fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Oct 19, 2015

Jagwires
May 31, 2009
ESPN Standard Scoring league

I give: Edelman and Palmer
I get: Ingram

My RBs: Freeman, Hillman, Spiller, Coleman, Bradshaw

My WRs: Edelman, Dez Bryant, B. Marshall, Hurns, Moncrief, Rishard Mathews

My QB: Palmer, Luck

I take this right?

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Dunno if he's been talked about and I don't want to search the whole thread but Stefon Diggs is Cool and Good and is worth picking up if he's still available because he's probably the best receiver on the Vikings.

He's still a WR3 (maybe) but has ~potential~

IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Oct 19, 2015

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

Freezer posted:

So is Melvin Gordon droppable yet? I need to make room in my bench for the Denver defense and his underperforming rear end has delivered nothing all year long.
heh considering in my standard league, the Denver D has scored 88 to Melvin's 31.6, I'd say yeah. I'm super glad I traded him and Nelson Agholwho? to an Eagles fan for Lamar Miller before the season started. Had to wait till this week till that paid off but now it really is straight robbery. The guy with Melvin isn't hurting though with having Le'Veon Bell and Devonta Freeman and he stole Charmander off waivers from me when I lost Charles so I guess it's even?

T Bowl
Feb 6, 2006

Shut up DUMMY
I traded Melvin for DeMarco and people told me not to in this very forum :D :D :D

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine

THE MACHO MAN posted:

yes, just sold Lacy + Baldwin for ODB + Blount. People are very willing to give 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances to players attached to Rogers, Brady, Peyton, Brees, etc. Exploit that if you want to trade. Just keep repeating how he was a top 5 pick, he's historically performed at that level for his career and 3-4 bad games is a cold streak not a trend.

But after this sunday you are probably going to get lowballed a ton. Try trading wed or thurs when it's not so fresh in people's heads. FWIW I would be way more confident about Cobb still being an elite option at his position. Yes lots of mouths at WR there, but he's the only one with that kind of skillset so he'll get 95% of the snaps. Starks is good enough that Lacy could get back on track and still lose a decent amount of snaps to him, esp if they're concerned about Lacy's health

I can probably sit it out first week after bye, my other RBs are Freeman/Martin/Blount, but the idea of sitting Eddie Lacy is crazypants (even though doing just that could have won me two weeks). I think I'll try and package Lacy+(maybe even cobb)? for an elite WR, as I'm doing pretty poorly there with Cobb/Maclin/Tate/Bryant/Rishard in terms of reliability.

THE MACHO MAN
Nov 15, 2007

...Carey...

draw me like one of your French Canadian girls

365 Nog Hogger posted:

I can probably sit it out first week after bye, my other RBs are Freeman/Martin/Blount, but the idea of sitting Eddie Lacy is crazypants (even though doing just that could have won me two weeks). I think I'll try and package Lacy+(maybe even cobb)? for an elite WR, as I'm doing pretty poorly there with Cobb/Maclin/Tate/Bryant/Rishard in terms of reliability.

Cobb is just outside of the top 12 and that's with a bum shoulder. Unless you're getting one hell of a return, like Hopkins + a good rb, don't do that. He has a role in that offense that isn't redundant. You'd basically be selling your high draft picks for low during a cold streak, for a hot player that really represents a marginal upgrade. Cobb is still a #1 WR in every sense of the word. Lacy is a little more shakey but even then, you're ultimately selling low on a guy that it's pretty safe to say will play better based on his skills and historical output.

I think in general, unless you think it's cutting your losses while you can (as CJ anderson owners really probably should do) it's not wise to trade coming off of bad week or weeks.

Freezer posted:

So is Melvin Gordon droppable yet? I need to make room in my bench for the Denver defense and his underperforming rear end has delivered nothing all year long.

without seeing what your other droppable options are it is hard. I would always be hard pressed to drop a higher draft pick over a random waiver player if they're roughly the same output. I would find it hard to believe that you don't have other expendable players.

That being said, I saw a stat that half of his rushes have gone for 2 yds and under, and that was a problem in college too. I think he picks it up, but it's really apparent that Woodhead has a definite role in that offense, and that role expands when Gordon plays bad or fumbles

the_american_dream posted:

Not only did I not start Smith Sr but I dropped him for Buck Allen! :downs: (10 team league)

why on earth did you do this, even in a 10 man? Smith's volume alone makes him worth no worse than a WR3 in virtually any league

THE MACHO MAN fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Oct 19, 2015

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

Ninja Bob posted:

I didn't start Steve Smith because I thought he was still injured and I'm a big idiot and I hate myself.

EDIT: I also didn't start Lamar Miller because I "wanted to see if the new coaching would make a difference".

Not only did I not start Smith Sr but I dropped him for Buck Allen! :downs: (10 team league)

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sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
Yeah, I'm kind of curious how people think Lacy will do after the bye. I'm actually not at all worried about Starks, as it isn't like Packers gave him a heavy workload and sat Lacy. I'm more worried that Lacy is legitimately just going to do worse this year, even given the same opportunities as last.

I'm still not crazy worried yet, though. Didn't he grade out well in PFF or some other similar kind of metric? I mean, Seattle and St. Louis bottled him up well, but he put up 4.5, 4.6, and 5.0 ypc against weaker opponents up until his dud against San Diego (and I don't remember whether an in-game injury limited him in any of these?). I'm hopeful he'll be 100% health after the bye and he'll get back closer to the 15 carries per game he had last year, up from the ~11 he has now.

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