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Oct 18, 2015 21:18
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Bad Seafood posted:Part 1 is good. I agree, but it's kind of it's own thing and not really what people think about when talking about the series. Jonathan is definitely an underated Jojo though, he's such a drat good guy, and people actually call him Jojo!
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Oct 18, 2015 21:23
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While I'd agree it's not usually what people think of, I'd disagree that it's its own thing. It laid down a lot of the thematic and relational foundations for the series and is deeply connected with the overall metanarrative. Moreso than Part 2, I'd argue.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:29
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Bad Seafood posted:While I'd agree it's not usually what people think of, I'd disagree that it's its own thing. It laid down a lot of the thematic and relational foundations for the series and is deeply connected with the overall metanarrative. Moreso than Part 2, I'd argue. Counterpoint: Joseph Joestar.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:36
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Part 2 is ＧＯＯＤ, Joseph is ＧＯＯＤ. I'm just saying Part 1 is more important, which has nothing to do with part-to-part quality.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:50
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Bad Seafood posted:While I'd agree it's not usually what people think of, I'd disagree that it's its own thing. It laid down a lot of the thematic and relational foundations for the series and is deeply connected with the overall metanarrative. Moreso than Part 2, I'd argue. They set up different elements of the series I guess. Phantom Blood obviously has Dio and the Joestar bloodline becoming defenders of the world from evil but Battle Tendency introduces the ridiculous battles and flamboyant protagonists which are also a mainstay of the series too, in contrast even the final battle between Jonathan and Dio looks downright sober compared to nearly anything the other Jojos get up to. I guess you could sat Part I sets up the plot and Part II sets up the tone
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Oct 18, 2015 21:51
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I guess you could sat Part I sets up the plot and Part II sets up the tone
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Oct 18, 2015 21:54
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Bad Seafood posted:While I'd agree it's not usually what people think of, I'd disagree that it's its own thing. It laid down a lot of the thematic and relational foundations for the series and is deeply connected with the overall metanarrative. Moreso than Part 2, I'd argue.  If anything, Part 2 is where Araki's storytelling voice and style for the series started to actually gel. But Part 1 is so important for establishing a showcase for the development of both the Joestar Bloodline and, yeah, Dio, particularly the Les Miserables undercurrent happening with the Joestar's inherent kindness ("I gave him that ring" "Didn't he tell you I gave him that wallet?") and even with all of the terrible poo poo that happens because one man wanted to repay another, the lesson his son learned from his father still helps create the biggest force for good for the modern world by way of the SPW and that being a kind, cool, and understanding dude is way more important to being a gentleman (or a man, or a person in general) than power by any means necessary. It sets the optimistic, pay it forward, light at the end of the tunnel feeling that's important to the series, which is maintained even if the good guys don't always necessarily win and I think that's really important. Reading through Phantom Blood again with fresh eyes is a real treat and it makes me sad that some people skim the story to get to "the good parts". JoJo is supposed to be a slow boil so when you get to Jolyne falling sideways because gravity is being screwed with it's just sort of the logical next step. EDIT: but anyway yeah Phantom Blood is great and also Speedwagon is there. BaDandy fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Oct 18, 2015 |
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Oct 18, 2015 23:03
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RaspberryCommie posted:Counterpoint: Joseph Joestar. Meh e: my favorite part of part 2 is basically KARS KARS KARS so yeah
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Oct 18, 2015 23:19
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Part 1 is a lot of fun for what it is and while tou could argue it isn't strictly necessary to see it to be caught up, I can't imagine what happens in SC having anywhere near the same impact without knowing who Dio is and how far back he goes with the Joestar line.
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Oct 18, 2015 23:34
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Pootybutt posted:Part 1 is a lot of fun for what it is and while tou could argue it isn't strictly necessary to see it to be caught up, I can't imagine what happens in SC having anywhere near the same impact without knowing who Dio is and how far back he goes with the Joestar line. Not to mention the SPW and why exactly they're helping out this rando rich-rear end family kill a vampire.
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Oct 18, 2015 23:37
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I agree, but it's kind of it's own thing and not really what people think about when talking about the series. Jonathan is definitely an underated Jojo though, he's such a drat good guy, and people actually call him Jojo! My favourite bit in any JoJo part is the quick line of dialogue near the beginning where it's established that the new JoJo could indeed be conceivably called JoJo by someone if they combined the first and last syllables of his/her name or changed it into binary and read it backwards or whatever, and then proceed to never actually call him/her by that name.
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Oct 19, 2015 08:10
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I handle it like Dio and think of "Jojo" as Jonathan. Joseph doesn't really go by that nickname anymore, Jotaro generally seemed to be called his regular name, I don't remember anyone ever calling Josuke that, Giorno is GioGio, and Jolyne would probably beat the bejesus out of you if you called her Jojo given what happened with her boyfriend.
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Oct 19, 2015 08:19
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Josuke Higashikata.
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Oct 19, 2015 08:21
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Speedwagon to Jonathan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJzNZ1c5C9c
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Oct 19, 2015 13:16
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I handle it like Dio and think of "Jojo" as Jonathan. I thiiiiiink some people who kinda sorta know Jotaro and Josuke as acquaintances call them by JoJo and then their Real Bros call them by their actual name. I think it's a nice touch though that Jolyne will only let her mom call her that, though.
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Oct 19, 2015 15:30
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I think they stopped calling the Jojo Jojo so often beginning in part 3 because multiple Jojos starts getting into the mix at a time. Like, would you be talking about Joseph or Jotaro in part 3?
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Oct 19, 2015 20:07
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Waffleman_ posted:I think they stopped calling the Jojo Jojo so often beginning in part 3 because multiple Jojos starts getting into the mix at a time. Like, would you be talking about Joseph or Jotaro in part 3? To be fair, there's only a handful of people in Part 3 that even call Joseph something other than "Joestar/Mr. Joestar". I think it's just Jotaro (gramps), Holly (papa), Suzie Q (Joseph), and DIO (Joseph Joestar)?
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Oct 19, 2015 20:23
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E: dang it all i utterly misunderstood this conversation due to phoneposting
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Oct 19, 2015 21:51
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Eh, I prefer how the anime did it, where Jotaro was called Jojo and they called Joseph Mr. Joestar. If they did part 4, Josuke would get the name and Jotaro would just be Mr. Kujo.
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Oct 19, 2015 22:39
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Or just Jotaro.
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Oct 19, 2015 22:59
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The SC anime handled the nickname "JoJo" the same way the manga did where Jotaro was referred to by that nickname for a few fights, then was pretty much exclusively referred to by his given name.
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Oct 19, 2015 23:15
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Heaven DIO actually looks alright in this fanart. I guess presentation helps a lot.
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Oct 20, 2015 07:52
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Still looks like he's been chugging colloidal silver, though I guess that's more blue/ purple
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Oct 20, 2015 08:32
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Hes like a purple hulk. Or that purple hulk character from Dexter's Lab, except prettier.
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Oct 20, 2015 11:07
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Purple stuff/Sunny Dio
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Oct 20, 2015 14:42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc5yzR2FCps Somebody help him. 
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Oct 21, 2015 03:55
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BaDandy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc5yzR2FCps The voice in that vine works so well for Josuke. I came back here looking to see if Aurain had posted an EOH update because I wanted to yell at him about hot pants and bruno being NPC e: nevermind aurain god drat 4chan Okuyasu Nijimura fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Oct 21, 2015 |
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Oct 21, 2015 05:18
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Might as well yell at me too because seriously. six dios. six fuckgin dio and one of them is an NPC and Hot Pants is only in NPC town. This is bullshit. where is my DIego/Hot Pants tag team?? where is it??? how you gonna have two diegos and then tell me diego and hot pants can't tag team? this started as a joke but now i'm actually annoyed for real!!! edit: unless there's something I missed about what NPCs actually do or something, but still! BaDandy fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Oct 21, 2015 |
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Oct 21, 2015 05:39
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BaDandy posted:Might as well yell at me too because seriously. Ahhh gently caress, I think we've been had. The same person who posted that originally just posted a retraction, ahaha. I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN because who the hell would make Bruno a NPC?
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Oct 21, 2015 05:43
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Oh, thank god. We're no closer to Hot Pants, but thank god all the same.
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Oct 21, 2015 05:45
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I would legitimately laugh my rear end off if this game had six Dios.
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Oct 21, 2015 05:50
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I would legitimately laugh my rear end off if this game had six Dios. Think of who would suffer the most.
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Oct 21, 2015 05:55
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You can't deny that all those Dios together would make for a golden experience.
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Oct 21, 2015 06:06
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There's no way Bruno isn't in the game. Even if they hadn't still got all of ASB's assets to play with, Bruno is integral. You guys should have been able to tell it was a fake image from that alone.
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Oct 21, 2015 07:38
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i mean, hell, it's basically given that the main jojo and the main sidekick from each arc will be in
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Oct 21, 2015 07:40
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Aurain posted:You guys should have been able to tell it was a fake image from that alone. Aurain, I hate you,
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Oct 21, 2015 08:46
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ascalapha odorata posted:Aurain, I hate you, M-mom?!
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Oct 21, 2015 09:59
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I'm really not looking forward to hearing Koyasu voicing five characters the same way. Also, it's not hard to make two Diegos when the first one was the first new character announced and the assets for making a second are all pretty much there aside from the World needing to be slimmed down.
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Oct 21, 2015 11:58
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His World actually looks quite a lot different. The piping on his back is ribbed differently, the bands on front are more numerous like in SBR as well as adding a gear on his arm and his SBR style face. They put a lot more work in to make it an authentic Diego's The World than they really needed to, imo.
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Oct 21, 2015 13:41
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