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I got a 640XL and I really like it. Should I put Windows 10 on it or just wait? Basically I plan on using this as my main phone and I'm wondering if the bells and whistles on Windows 10 are worth the trouble of using an unstable beta.
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wookieepelt posted:I got a 640XL and I really like it. Should I put Windows 10 on it or just wait? Basically I plan on using this as my main phone and I'm wondering if the bells and whistles on Windows 10 are worth the trouble of using an unstable beta. As of 3 weeks ago the beta was still grossly unfit for a device you want to actually use as a phone. There has been at least 1 update since then however.
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Oct 15, 2015 04:44
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It works great on the regular 640, not sure about the XL though.
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Oct 15, 2015 09:46
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I didn't have access to contacts or my SD-card music when I tried the preview on a 640XL a few weeks ago e: I think the contacts problem is because a lot of my contacts are Google contacts synced to my Live account? All I know is it works on WP8.1 and didn't work on WM10 loquacius fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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Oct 15, 2015 13:14
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Finally gave up on living with being unable to download and just streaming via Groove on my phone. Did a chat and they just removed every device so I could start over. Now I'm downloading away. I hate myself for not doing this sooner.
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Oct 15, 2015 21:45
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I would really like to know how to restore durable IAP when upgrading from WP8 to WM10. I reset my phone for the latest preview build and once again realized that it was gone after upgrading. Not sure what to do.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:45
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I'm sold on the 950 now. http://blogs.windows.com/devices/2015/10/15/camera-magic-on-microsoft-lumia-950-and-lumia-950-xl/
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Oct 15, 2015 22:53
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Dr Tran posted:I'm sold on the 950 now. As a Lumia 1020 haver I'm quite excited for this phone. Hopefully they'll have the 950 regular at Microsoft or AT&T stores soon to compare to the XL.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:15
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Should I have to do anything special in the Windows 10 photo app to make living images work? I have ones that work on my phone, but they are static when viewed on the computer. But I don't see a setting in the app menu.
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Oct 16, 2015 05:07
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http://www.microsoftdevicenight.com/RFG/publish/MDN15/ Going to the LA one
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Oct 16, 2015 15:28
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So Verizon seems to be not supporting the 950 and 950XL because as usual they have a miserable relationship with Microsoft. Cool. The drat phones even have CDMA, this is ridiculous. http://www.windowscentral.com/verizon-reportedly-blocking-new-microsoft-lumia-950?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter
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Oct 16, 2015 22:51
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Jewmanji posted:So Verizon seems to be not supporting the 950 and 950XL because as usual they have a miserable relationship with Microsoft. Cool. The drat phones even have CDMA, this is ridiculous. Came here to post that. If this is true and they're blocking the phones I don't know how that's even legal. I left Verizon for the original Windows Phone (Focus) and not only their lack of support but their apparent vendetta against Microsoft is why I'll never go back. Even if I leave Windows Phone. gently caress Verizon.
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Oct 16, 2015 22:59
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.Tim posted:Came here to post that. If this is true and they're blocking the phones I don't know how that's even legal. I left Verizon for the original Windows Phone (Focus) and not only their lack of support but their apparent vendetta against Microsoft is why I'll never go back. Even if I leave Windows Phone. gently caress Verizon. I share your frustration but there's nothing even close to illegal about it.
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Oct 16, 2015 23:16
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.Tim posted:Came here to post that. If this is true and they're blocking the phones I don't know how that's even legal. I left Verizon for the original Windows Phone (Focus) and not only their lack of support but their apparent vendetta against Microsoft is why I'll never go back. Even if I leave Windows Phone. gently caress Verizon. Hah, you remember the Icon, right? A flagship WP phone? Seems far more likely it sold for poo poo and Verizon has no interest in another WP model that won't sell than there being anything like a "vendetta".
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Oct 16, 2015 23:57
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RVProfootballer posted:Hah, you remember the Icon, right? A flagship WP phone? Seems far more likely it sold for poo poo and Verizon has no interest in another WP model that won't sell than there being anything like a "vendetta". Big difference between just not selling something and blocking it.
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Oct 17, 2015 00:22
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RVProfootballer posted:Hah, you remember the Icon, right? A flagship WP phone? Seems far more likely it sold for poo poo and Verizon has no interest in another WP model that won't sell than there being anything like a "vendetta". Any lack of substantive sales can be blamed squarely on Verizon themselves- they've moved many more units of countless less impressive phones. Their reticence to back the platform is an established fact.
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Oct 17, 2015 00:25
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.Tim posted:Big difference between just not selling something and blocking it. it's less blocking and more like CDMA is like the old cable tv decoder scheme. "Yeah you just have to get your box authorized. No, we can't authorize a box not in our database. The ones we SELL are in our database. Yours is fully compatible and even the same make and model as the ones we sell? Well, why don't you buy one of ours? I can authorize that!"
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Oct 17, 2015 00:50
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I wanted to try some Android apps on my phone to see how it all worked, but because the 640 isn't supported I had to faff about with a workaround, pushing updates to my phone several times to get it working, and after many hours of effort, let me tell you - there is a good reason why the 640 wasn't supported.  I don't think a single app runs without some sort of glaring issue.
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Oct 19, 2015 00:12
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RVProfootballer posted:Hah, you remember the Icon, right? A flagship WP phone? Seems far more likely it sold for poo poo and Verizon has no interest in another WP model that won't sell than there being anything like a "vendetta". Verizon didn't even set up a commission for the Icon. Their sales reps literally made more money by directing customers to a bottom-tier Android phone sold for $0. As a result, store managers rarely had them on display, and didn't even bother carrying cases for them. It wasn't the Icon that caused it to have poor sales: it was the complete lack of an active sales channel that drove the lack of sales.
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Oct 19, 2015 01:40
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RVProfootballer posted:Hah, you remember the Icon, right? A flagship WP phone? Seems far more likely it sold for poo poo and Verizon has no interest in another WP model that won't sell than there being anything like a "vendetta". I think the Kin was the beginning of the bad blood between Verizon and MS.
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Oct 19, 2015 02:05
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With the Music app battering me with "can't play this right now, try again" and VLC endlessly crashing, I'm now trying Listen as a free and adfree player. Seems alright so far. Considering all I want from a music app is that it plays all local mp3 files shuffled at the press of a button, anyway. I'm noticing everyone seems to have a different idea of what a music app should be able to do. In any case, I had to whine a bit about how typing "listen" in the store search doesn't bring up the app for me. At all. I had to type the url I found via some forum on my tablet into the browser on my phone like some caveman. The gently caress is up with that, Microsoft 
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Oct 19, 2015 02:21
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Flipperwaldt posted:In any case, I had to whine a bit about how typing "listen" in the store search doesn't bring up the app for me. At all. I had to type the url I found via some forum on my tablet into the browser on my phone like some caveman. The f* is up with that, Microsoft I just tried searching for it in the latest preview build, and it was the top hit. (The store app did crash on open, though, lol). Flipperwaldt posted:With the Music app battering me with "can't play this right now, try again" and VLC endlessly crashing, I'm now trying Listen as a free and adfree player. Seems alright so far. Considering all I want from a music app is that it plays all local mp3 files shuffled at the press of a button, anyway. I'm noticing everyone seems to have a different idea of what a music app should be able to do. Local MP3's is a losers game. Upgrade your life and start streaming your own collection instead. You can do this with both Groove and my otherwise limited app that I hock itc, but also lol at the bolded part. Also if you want a true phone store tragedy, apparently my app isn't shown in the online store browser any more. I know because I just clicked through 28 pages of never-downloaded and crapware music apps for Windows Phone and didn't see it!
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Oct 19, 2015 02:42
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Flipperwaldt posted:With the Music app battering me with "can't play this right now, try again" and VLC endlessly crashing Your best bet with VLC is to uninstall and reinstall. Clean slate it and try indexing the library again. I've been trying hard to get better crash analytic data into it, but I'm running into road blocks. Right now you can send the crash data after it relaunches (and if it fails to launch,  ). We're trying to make it better, honest  .
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Oct 19, 2015 03:16
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Factor Mystic posted:Local MP3's is a losers game. Upgrade your life and start streaming your own collection instead. Streaming isn't exactly helpful for people whose commute regularly puts them in areas with lovely to no coverage.
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Factor Mystic posted:I just tried searching for it in the latest preview build, and it was the top hit. (The store app did crash on open, though, lol). I'm a proud loser and I have no problems with the standard music app. 
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Oct 19, 2015 07:14
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Factor Mystic posted:I just tried searching for it in the latest preview build, and it was the top hit. (The store app did crash on open, though, lol). Factor Mystic posted:Local MP3's is a losers game. Upgrade your life and start streaming your own collection instead. You can do this with both Groove and my otherwise limited app that I hock itc, Factor Mystic posted:but also lol at the bolded part. Drastic Actions posted:Your best bet with VLC is to uninstall and reinstall. Clean slate it and try indexing the library again. I've been trying hard to get better crash analytic data into it, but I'm running into road blocks. Right now you can send the crash data after it relaunches (and if it fails to launch,
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Oct 19, 2015 11:00
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WP's music player makes streaming music particularly obnoxious to use (other than it normally is) with an idiotic design decision (granted it's the music player so par for the course) with the track selector that appears when you unlock the phone. It won't register the track name changes until after it starts playing. So for example, you have a huge playlist and want to skip forward to a song that you think is maybe 4-5 tracks ahead, but not sure - so hit the forward track icon. No response, hit it again - nothing. Basically you have to wait until the track is buffered before the title will change, really wtf. BTW, Thurrott now believes only running Android apps natively can save Windows Phone.. Not only lol for the desperation, but it took Thurrott 8 years to realize "Huh, apps apparently matter".
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Oct 19, 2015 15:15
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I wanted to try some Android apps on my phone to see how it all worked, but because the 640 isn't supported I had to faff about with a workaround, pushing updates to my phone several times to get it working, and after many hours of effort, let me tell you - there is a good reason why the 640 wasn't supported. you can run Android apps on a windows phone?
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Oct 19, 2015 15:43
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Jewmanji posted:So Verizon seems to be not supporting the 950 and 950XL because as usual they have a miserable relationship with Microsoft. Cool. The drat phones even have CDMA, this is ridiculous. ArsTechnica is pointing the finger squarely at Microsoft. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/if-the-lumia-950-and-950-xl-wont-work-on-verizon-thats-microsofts-fault/ tl;dr: Verizon can't block any phone that passes its certification process. Microsoft isn't submitting/paying for the phones to be certified.
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Oct 19, 2015 19:43
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I'm really at a loss as to what to do when my Icon inevitably kicks the bucket 1 month / 1 year / whenever from now. Do I switch from Verizon with its great coverage? If I don't, do I go with Android which has security holes that are never fixed, or iOS which locks me into an ecosystem I don't want? My company does its own security testing, so I suppose if they pass Android then I can just run with it, but it's still frustrating. At least Microsoft has Office, OneDrive, etc. on Android now, and I'll admit my wife's Samsung S6 is really nice.
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Oct 19, 2015 21:10
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Samsung has way too many poo poo built in that annoys a lot of people. I owned a Galaxy S and S4 and couldn't bear with touchwiz and ended with two lumia phones. If you end on Android, get a Motorola Moto G, X or whatever, even Verizon has the Motorola Droid Turbo wich is drat nice. Of course, if you get a flagship, getting a S6 or Note is the only advisable Samsung experience since their low and mid range devices are garbage while other manufacturers have good non-flagship stuff.
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Oct 19, 2015 21:20
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The iOS ecosystem lock-in seems no greater than the Windows Phone ecosystem lock-in, and rather lesser than the Android one (unless you are willing to go pretty far purging Google and manufacturer stuff) tbqh. So probably still a pretty good bet. With some luck Microsoft/Verizon will come around and it'll all work out though.
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Oct 19, 2015 21:21
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I'd assume if by some miracle Microsoft and Verizon work out their bullshit that the 950/950XL can be made ready for them with a firmware update.
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Oct 19, 2015 21:25
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My husband is clutching his icon for dear life and hoping it survives until the surface phone comes out.
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Oct 19, 2015 21:27
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Why is "certifying" phones so drat important to Verizon? I mean, it runs an 808/810, has nearly identical specs as anything else and works fine if you just let it. Spoiler: it will work juuuust fine guys. Really, it won't bring your snowflake network to it's knees. It's like someone saying they have to certify that water is wet. Here's 1.2 million dollars. Verizon: yep, it's certified as wet thanks!
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Oct 19, 2015 22:32
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Pretty much they want to make it annoying to bring a phone they aren't selling to their network. It's all to protect the customers so they are certain the phone they buy works properly. /s
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Oct 19, 2015 22:35
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Uthor posted:Pretty much they want to make it annoying to bring a phone they aren't selling to their network. It's all to protect the customers so they are certain the phone they buy works properly. /s I know /s, but if the HTC Thunderbolt was "certified to work properly" then I am at a loss for words. GSM forever I guess. Step 1: put in SIM. Step 2: it works, certifies itself and you are at fault if it doesn't work properly because you bought a pile of poo poo phone. Don't do that again. The end. hotsauce fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Oct 19, 2015 |
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Oct 19, 2015 22:40
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I think it was an iPhone update that caused AT&T towers to reboot. lol.
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Oct 19, 2015 23:44
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Ynglaur posted:I'm really at a loss as to what to do when my Icon inevitably kicks the bucket 1 month / 1 year / whenever from now. Do I switch from Verizon with its great coverage? If I don't, do I go with Android which has security holes that are never fixed, or iOS which locks me into an ecosystem I don't want? My company does its own security testing, so I suppose if they pass Android then I can just run with it, but it's still frustrating. At least Microsoft has Office, OneDrive, etc. on Android now, and I'll admit my wife's Samsung S6 is really nice. You will have perfectly fine experience with any lightly used iPhone 5s, and it's highly affordable.
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Uthor posted:Pretty much they want to make it annoying to bring a phone they aren't selling to their network. It's all to protect the customers so they are certain the phone they buy works properly. /s
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