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In reality, he would have killed a dozen or so people before turning the gun on himself. Look forward to that this Christmas.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:In reality, he would have killed a dozen or so people before turning the gun on himself. I tell you what, that Batman fucker ensured I will never go to some blockbuster film opening night. gently caress that.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:00
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Newswatch33 is satire. That's totally a believable story though.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:06
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evilweasel posted:I think it's more she did not effectively use it to carve out a niche. She's a bad candidate but she didn't really flub anything that Republican voters care about, she just didn't make a case for why she's better than an alternative. She's running as a sort of mix between outsider and establishment but if you want either outsider there's Trump or Carson, if you want tea-party friendly establishment there's Rubio, if you want religious wingnut there's Carson, and if you want solid establishment and naps there's Jeb! There's not really any niche of voters Fiorina really targets well and so once she stopped getting attention then people went back to not caring. There isn't a group of voters who want an outsider candidate with establishment cred. We're describing different parts of the same elephant, I think. The absence of all other defining Conservative subcategory markers leaves her business experience as her main selling point and her record as CEO is unquestionably bad. Carly pushed her clout as a tech executive and Trump shat all over it. She countered by trying to dismiss critiques of her management as partisan and "Clintonite" which got a sizable contingent of the business press against her and writing rebuttals that not only illustrated how badly HP did under her tenure but also contrasted its fortunes to the successes that companies like Apple and Google have had since the turn of the century. I agree that she's failed to make a successful niche for herself and that her record probably wouldn't be too hard for the base to ignore in a general matchup against the great Democrat Satan but, like with Jeb! and 9/11, Trump has shown a remarkable talent for exposing long-time nude emperors to GOP voters.
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Yeah, the Empire functioned efficiently because even the top-ranking humans meant poo poo all to Vader and Palpatine. This is pointed out when Vader kills one on the spot for questioning the power of the Force. However, the intended cycle of succession would be for Luke to become Vader's apprentice and join him to kill Palpatine. Implicitly, I think Vader intended to seek out Sith immortality and break the cycle of master and apprentice. But that's not how the Dark Side works.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:11
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theblackw0lf posted:Something I've been wondering about. In the 90s there was also a shutdown controversy, yet I don't remember the media playing a false-equivalence "both sides are responsible" narrative. I remember the responsibility being laid squarely on the republicans, and them paying for it politically. I expect you're misremembering. But the Republicans started getting slammed when comments from Gingrich made it sound like he shut down the government over some disrespect on air force one like getting unloaded late or something stupid.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:12
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Hodgepodge posted:Yeah, the Empire functioned efficiently because even the top-ranking humans meant poo poo all to Vader and Palpatine. This is pointed out when Vader kills one on the spot for questioning the power of the Force. Actually the guy who questions the power of the force Vader behind choking to prove a point but is told to cut it out by Peter Cushing and immediately does so. I think he was actually outranked by Cushing's character.
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McDowell posted:Bill Kristol is a coward who would never openly endorse a Tarkin Doctrine of foreign policy. I'm thinking of the Sith Empire stuff we see in the Old Republic games.
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greatn posted:Actually the guy who questions the power of the force Vader behind choking to prove a point but is told to cut it out by Peter Cushing and immediately does so. I think he was actually outranked by Cushing's character. Making Vader a millennial, reluctant yet obligated.
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evilweasel posted:I expect you're misremembering. But the Republicans started getting slammed when comments from Gingrich made it sound like he shut down the government over some disrespect on air force one like getting unloaded late or something stupid. 
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Oct 20, 2015 19:16
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MariusLecter posted:Also apparently sourced from a Onion ripoff site. Trying to find more info just gets me a story of a guy who killed his wife over Star Wars toys. Oh no, Bluestory!
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Fried Chicken posted:I'd no poo poo like to do a D&D coverage of Sith ideology, the structure and operation of galactic politics, the Jedi Order as a necessity, obscure stuff from the old WEG sourcebooks and what it tells us about how the galaxy operated, etc. like the old LF Star Trek thread but for Star Wars. I really really really want this thread as well
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greatn posted:Actually the guy who questions the power of the force Vader behind choking to prove a point but is told to cut it out by Peter Cushing and immediately does so. I think he was actually outranked by Cushing's character. I more got the feeling that Vader was humoring Tarkin by releasing the officer he was force-throttling in that scene, not that he really considered himself under the strict Imperial chain of command.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Depends on whether or not Paul Ryan agrees to fall on his sword. If only there were a sword of the Senate
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Hodgepodge posted:Yeah, the Empire functioned efficiently because even the top-ranking humans meant poo poo all to Vader and Palpatine. This is pointed out when Vader kills one on the spot for questioning the power of the Force. The films even start to set this up. in Star Wars, we have Darth Vader, a very powerful dude, working for Grand Moff Tarkin, who bosses him around and is the brains behind the whole operation. It would be totally easy to see how Star Wars 2 would feature Vader as the main bad guy, and some new agent who would take over once Vader bites it at the end of that film. This didn't happen, obviously, but it could have. For more on how that could have gone, check out: https://lanceparkin.wordpress.com/2013/02/12/star-wars-2/
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Which starwars character is Jeb!?
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Humans Among Us posted:Which starwars character is Jeb!? C3PO. Stiff, verbally sounds like a robot, and it's really hard to get excited over that character.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:31
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Humans Among Us posted:Which starwars character is Jeb!? He's that huge Star Destroyer that crashes into the second Death Star at the end of ROTJ.
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seiferguy posted:C3PO. Stiff, verbally sounds like a robot, and it's really hard to get excited over that character. And coincidentally had ties to one of the greatest political disasters in recent memory yet when asked has no knowledge of it.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I more got the feeling that Vader was humoring Tarkin by releasing the officer he was force-throttling in that scene, not that he really considered himself under the strict Imperial chain of command. Leia also seemed to be under the impression that Tarkin was higher up the food chain than Vader, I assume she's pretty informed about the Empire's structure. Vader may have been the Emperor's sith apprentice, but his talents really lie more in knocking heads and making people crap themselves than executing the complicated, intricate tasks needed to maintain a galactic empire.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Leia also seemed to be under the impression that Tarkin was higher up the food chain than Vader, I assume she's pretty informed about the Empire's structure. Probably why the thing poo poo the bed so quickly when the Generals were taken out of planning and subjugated to an authoritarian theocracy.
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Humans Among Us posted:Which starwars character is Jeb!? Darth Grevious. Part robot, all incompetent lackey that seemed impressive and a threat to be reckoned with at first, but keeps loving up the simplest of tasks despite having enormous resources at his disposal and is now considered a sad joke.
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Fried Chicken posted:I'd no poo poo like to do a D&D coverage of Sith ideology, the structure and operation of galactic politics, the Jedi Order as a necessity, obscure stuff from the old WEG sourcebooks and what it tells us about how the galaxy operated, etc. like the old LF Star Trek thread but for Star Wars. http://www.tor.com/2012/09/12/the-qtrue-nature-of-the-force-is-way-more-complicated-than-you-think/
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McCloud posted:Darth Grevious. Mostly robotic, all incompetent lackey that seemed impressive and a threat to be reckoned with at first, but keeps loving up the simplest of tasks despite having enormous resources at his disposal and is now considered a sad joke. That was Romney.
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Fried Chicken posted:I'd no poo poo like to do a D&D coverage of Sith ideology, the structure and operation of galactic politics, the Jedi Order as a necessity, obscure stuff from the old WEG sourcebooks and what it tells us about how the galaxy operated, etc. like the old LF Star Trek thread but for Star Wars. Please make this happen.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Leia also seemed to be under the impression that Tarkin was higher up the food chain than Vader, I assume she's pretty informed about the Empire's structure. This is what I wanted out of star wars. The war part. I dunno about anyone else, but I dug more on the star destroyers and the x-wings than light sabers. Star wars is about war. The jedi were just badass soldiers. At some point in exploring their powers they became superheroes instead of just badass soldiers and because of that the movies are superhero movies instead of war movies. I want a war movie, not a superhero movie where the hero bats back a hundred blaster shots because of *reasons.* Give me the guns of navarrone in space, not spiderman.
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Just gonna take this to it's logical conclusion: Donald Trump - Jabba the Hutt (successful businessman of the galaxy) Ben Carson - Bib Fortuna (tries to be like Jabba but will ultimately only be only 2nd to him, also has a really weird voice) Carly Fiornia - IG88 (makes a cool appearance in Shadows of the Empire but then is doomed to irrelevance forever) Ted Cruz - Nien Nunb (they kind of look like each other) Mike Huckabee - Darth Malak (believes in Rand Paul - Lobot (believes in Rick Santorum - Greedo (ultimately irrelevant, but jokes made against him will stick with our memories for a lifetime)
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Ron Jeremy posted:This is what I wanted out of star wars. The war part. I dunno about anyone else, but I dug more on the star destroyers and the x-wings than light sabers. Star wars is about war. The jedi were just badass soldiers. At some point in exploring their powers they became superheroes instead of just badass soldiers and because of that the movies are superhero movies instead of war movies. I want a war movie, not a superhero movie where the hero bats back a hundred blaster shots because of *reasons.* The original trilogy did this pretty well I thought: Luke was often capable of shifting the tide of a battle, but he was far from invincible and taking out that AT-AT at Hoth didn't stop the Empire from routing the Rebel forces. He was really just a special forces guy, taking part in tactically vital missions while the main army did most of the fighting. Of course Phantom Menace tried to do the war thing in a similar way to the originals but Lucas hosed up the pacing so badly it was a trainwreck.
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McCloud posted:Darth Grevious. Part robot, all incompetent lackey that seemed impressive and a threat to be reckoned with at first, but keeps loving up the simplest of tasks despite having enormous resources at his disposal and is now considered a sad joke. Hey. The miniseries on Toonami had Grevious being awesome till the he got his chest forced-crushed by Windu. Jeb! and Mittens have never been awesome.
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Ron Jeremy posted:This is what I wanted out of star wars. The war part. I dunno about anyone else, but I dug more on the star destroyers and the x-wings than light sabers. Star wars is about war. The jedi were just badass soldiers. At some point in exploring their powers they became superheroes instead of just badass soldiers and because of that the movies are superhero movies instead of war movies. I want a war movie, not a superhero movie where the hero bats back a hundred blaster shots because of *reasons.* If the first Star Wars movie was made today, it would start with Darth Vader boarding the rebel ship and taking it over by entirely himself. The fight between Vader and Obi-wan would be 20 minutes of flipping and twirling. It would end with Luke destroying the Death Star with his light saber, somehow.
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Bar Crow posted:If the first Star Wars movie was made today, it would start with Darth Vader boarding the rebel ship and taking it over by entirely himself. The fight between Vader and Obi-wan would be 20 minutes of flipping and twirling. It would end with Luke destroying the Death Star with his light saber, somehow. He'd stand where the Death Star's ray is gonna hit, then redirect it with the light saber back into the Death Star, destroying it.
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PhazonLink posted:Hey. That miniseries is better than all the prequels combined, and a successful marriage of superhero jedis to war-movie milieu, and Tartakovsky is a goddamn genius.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:04
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seiferguy posted:Just gonna take this to it's logical conclusion: Is Bernie Yoda?
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Is Bernie Yoda? Has been around forever but never fully disappears, advocates pragmatism over ethically "good" policies and taking action only after carefully calculating the risks, I'd say that's more Hillary. Advocates drastically expanding the role of government and has an enthusiastic support base? I'd say that's more Palpatine 
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Bar Crow posted:If the first Star Wars movie was made today, it would start with Darth Vader boarding the rebel ship and taking it over by entirely himself. The fight between Vader and Obi-wan would be 20 minutes of flipping and twirling. It would end with Luke destroying the Death Star with his light saber, somehow. Also there would be accusations that Alderaan was a false flag attack. Did the Empire ever publicize the Death Star's attack? Could a space station really blow up a planet? All we've seen is the Death Star blow up capital ships.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Has been around forever but never fully disappears, advocates pragmatism over ethically "good" policies and taking action only after carefully calculating the risks, I'd say that's more Hillary. Plus Bernie speaks only in absolutes - "If it's too big to fail, it's too big to exist" - uses death star on BofA
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PhazonLink posted:Hey. The second clone wars series took their cue from the movie and turned him into an inept saturday morning cartoon villain. Which is too bad because the grevious in the miniseries was a god drat force of nature.
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Someone make a gif of that poor bastard in the A-wing who crashes into the super star destroyer, but put Trump's head on him, while replace Admiral Piett with Rince Priebus and have him yell "Intesify the attack ads!".
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Boehner is having problems even coming up with 30 votes for a clean debt ceiling vote now. http://thehill.com/policy/finance/257393-gop-votes-scarce-on-debt-ceiling-hike What happens when the GOP extremists completely take over the house? There's going to be at minimum a 2 year period where no budgets and no debt ceilings will get passed, unless the Democratic president/congress capitulate. Similar thing happened in Pennsylvania, the GOP held everything hostage long enough that everyone started blaming the Democratic governor for not "just giving in and ending the misery of the citizens".
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