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As the last election proved on the Republican side, the results in Iowa don't even really matter that much. I'd love to see Trump take those entitled corn-engorged fuckers down a few pegs.
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Antti posted:I guess America truly is colour blind because all of your Carson theorycrafting seems to just assume that his being black won't cause any problems with a huge portion of the Republican base. Overt racism isn't as mainstream in the GOP anymore.
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Roland Jones posted:Looking around, I'm seeing similar things on multiple websites, so he might not even be a good surgeon. Or at least is one who has made some serious mistakes. 
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Tricky D posted:Ironically, Ben Carson is the ideal establishment candidate. His lack of political experience indicates that he will have to rely on advisers to govern; and, because he is a political outsider, his cabinet and staff will essentially be chosen for him by the party. The traits that make him the darling of the "silent majority" anti-establishment wing of the party also make him the perfect sort of empty suit candidate that the Republican party leadership desires. The best thing the establishment GOP can do for itself is let Carson alone and cross their fingers. If Carson wins Iowa, I expect he might get a call from Prince Reibus of the RNC Kingdom offering him the position of Vice President if/when Rubio gets the nom, provided Carson can tank Trump for them. If he can do that, they'll dump Rubio for him. I am starting to think the only thing that can stump the Trump is a brain dead neurosurgeon. Fox Ironic fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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So what's up with Rubio these days anyway?
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showbiz_liz posted:So what's up with Rubio these days anyway? I think he's back in kindergarten now that the school year has started.
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showbiz_liz posted:So what's up with Rubio these days anyway? Rubio's running a shockingly lackadaisical campaign in terms of events. I think it's to save on travel money? He's going to Iowa on Oct. 30th, but as far as I can tell it'll be his first Iowa visit in October.
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showbiz_liz posted:So what's up with Rubio these days anyway? Currently trying to seduce the Koch brothers and laughing at Jeb Bush.
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Xenophon posted:I go to their minor league baseball games, they have a dog that fetches the bats, it's cute there's no rule that says bat dogs can't be speaker of the house!
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Antti posted:I guess America truly is colour blind because all of your Carson theorycrafting seems to just assume that his being black won't cause any problems with a huge portion of the Republican base. For the vast majority of the Republican base, tribalism completely trumps racism in everything except personal matters. He's not "bad black".
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Donald Trump's pledge: 'We're gonna be saying Merry Christmas' Trump is going to win this thing.
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GlyphGryph posted:For the vast majority of the Republican base, tribalism completely trumps racism in everything except personal matters. He's not "bad black". Antti posted:I guess America truly is colour blind because all of your Carson theorycrafting seems to just assume that his being black won't cause any problems with a huge portion of the Republican base. Some idiots will stay home instead of voting for "the black guy", but he'd also cut into the black vote a bit as well.
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Why hasn't Trump commented on Ahmed the Clock Bomber freely returning to terrorland rather than staying in the greatest nation on earth?
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GlyphGryph posted:I don't think so. The race coming down to Carson/Trump as the last two standing is good for Trump. I don't think he wants to see Carson explode, not yet. This is my take as well. Trump feels he’s not a long term threat, and in the short term, he’s helping to choke out the third tier in the polls.
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Carson is the pizza guy of this primary, in absence of Papa John.
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Nonsense posted:Why hasn't Trump commented on Ahmed returning to terrorland rather than staying in the greatest nation on earth? Does Ahmed jerk it to Supergirl? Yeah that's what I thought. e: oh poo poo I thought you meant Jeb!
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Xenophon posted:begin the beguine We are running out of rails for this beautiful man to touch and then keep living. He is amazing.
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Oct 22, 2015 18:16
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Carson will fold up like a tent the moment he faces any actual scrutiny on his policy positions or has to be articulate in any sort of manner
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:trumps going to attack carson at the next debate and carson is going to collapse i dont think so. i think trump avoided attacking carson for a reason. as good as trump is at bringing others down, hes not a witty or clever man. he relies on that bullys instinct to detect other peoples weakness and just pounces on them as viciously as he can. but carson has no easy avenues of attack. calling a respected nuerosurgeon a loser just doesnt play well. someone else could attack carson on the outrageous things he says but obviously that wont work so well for trump.
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It's crazy we have 9 more GOP debates to go between now and March
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GlyphGryph posted:I don't think so. The race coming down to Carson/Trump as the last two standing is good for Trump. I don't think he wants to see Carson explode, not yet. Exactly. Carson is a soft spoken black man with a demeanor that screams beta. If it's between Carson and Trump, Trump is going to win. Carson is doing well right now because he's the anti-establishment "nice guy." Carson is the "feel good" candidate for Republicans. Nice guys don't finish first in Republican politics.
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santorum won iowa and that got him nowhere. trump should go all in and and troll the state and i bet all the other states will love it. meanwhile jeb! can rattle off a list of superheroines he finds sexually arousing while panting into a microphone. hail satan
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Roland Jones posted:From what I've heard he isn't great there either; besides his general anti-science viewpoints, there've been multiple patients of his claiming he hosed them up horribly while operating on them. Looking around, I'm seeing similar things on multiple websites, so he might not even be a good surgeon. Or at least is one who has made some serious mistakes. i talked a lil bit about this before. i tried looking for those twins he separated and either they are dead or hosed up as hell. its kinda gross to me that he loves to parrot an operation that only benefited his reputation.
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babypolis posted:i talked a lil bit about this before. i tried looking for those twins he separated and either they are dead or hosed up as hell. its kinda gross to me that he loves to parrot an operation that only benefited his reputation. Whatever happened to that russian guy wanting a head transplant? Haven't heard about that stuff for months.
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Montasque posted:Republicans aren't Stormfronters(Well most of them arent') Carson has REALLY high favorablility numbers in every single poll. Liberals seem to be bringing up Carson's race a lot more than the base(save for Freepers, who are basically a step away from Stormfront) The kind of racists that people on these forums think make up the Republican party are a vanishingly small, irrelevant minority, roughly as influential as people on these forums who say Communism now a lot are in the Democratic party.
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Bob Ojeda posted:Still think Carson's support doesn't come entirely from religious extremism - I think Republicans just like and respect the guy Being on Fox News practically every day doesn't hurt.
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Trump is pretty smart about his attacks, actually - he usually tests them out. Remember awhile back there were a few instances where he said Carson was an "OK" surgeon "I guess" or something along those lines? There's a reason you haven't been hearing him keep repeating those kinds of attacks.
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this_is_hard posted:Carson will fold up like a tent the moment he faces any actual scrutiny on his policy positions or has to be articulate in any sort of manner I'd say he has a chance to go earlier if Trump decides it's his turn. They're both bullshitting their way through this thing and Carson isn't half as good at it as Trump. I think the crocodile tears/glenn beck/compassionate conservative bunch will keep him from doing a Fiorina but he's definitely going to crash soon. Trump can survive the "gotcha" moments because he genuinely seems to not give a poo poo, Carson only started pretending he isn't bothered by people pointing out how lovely he is after he saw Trump getting away with it.
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Roland Jones posted:From what I've heard he isn't great there either; besides his general anti-science viewpoints, there've been multiple patients of his claiming he hosed them up horribly while operating on them. Looking around, I'm seeing similar things on multiple websites, so he might not even be a good surgeon. Or at least is one who has made some serious mistakes. He did roughly 15000 brain surgeries during his career and made mistakes on something like six of them. It's incredibly disingenuous to try to paint Carson as a bad neurosurgeon. Demanding absolute perfection is unreasonable and childish.
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If Trump is really, really smart he'd start making ad buys in the Super Tuesday and March 15 states. It'll be really cheap now and it'll preclude Bush from being able to blitz him as Romney did in FL after Gingrich stomped a mudhole in his rear end in SC.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:We are running out of rails for this beautiful man to touch and then keep living. He is amazing. The fact that Donald Trump is STILL the GOP frontrunner is magical. Is he just really loving good at this or did he enter just at the right moment and he's just lucky?
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Antti posted:I guess America truly is colour blind because all of your Carson theorycrafting seems to just assume that his being black won't cause any problems with a huge portion of the Republican base. we brought this up in gip, but you have to have met these people and talked to them to understand the entirty of the gop isn't racist, but those who are have two categories of black people. One of those categories is "one of the good ones" and anyone they feel fits into that category they treat as an equal. The other one could just be called thugs, gang members, or niggers, depending on who you talk to. Carson is defacto in the former camp so they would have no issue with him at all.
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DarkCrawler posted:The fact that Donald Trump is STILL the GOP frontrunner is magical. Is he just really loving good at this or did he enter just at the right moment and he's just lucky? Right wing radio and TV have primed their audience to fall in behind the meanest rear end in a top hat in the room. They built this army of angry crazies for Trump.
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Third World Reggin posted:we brought this up in gip, but you have to have met these people and talked to them to understand Yeah, they like Carson because he's a way for them to pretend they aren't racist. "Oh, nooo, we don't hate black people! Just black people who fail to fit into our incredibly narrow definition of how it's acceptable for a black person to behave!"
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:He did roughly 15000 brain surgeries during his career and made mistakes on something like six of them. It's incredibly disingenuous to try to paint Carson as a bad neurosurgeon. Demanding absolute perfection is unreasonable and childish. Yeah, I feel bad for the woman profiled in that article, but it's dumb as hell to imply that maybe he's actually a bad neurosurgeon and nobody noticed until Yahoo's celebrity gossip column was on the case. There are enough valid things to criticize the guy for and his medical career isn't one of them. Also the conjoined twins he separated are doing as well as can be expected given that the procedure involved draining the blood out of two 7-month-old babies who were attached at the loving brain
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anime tupac posted:Also the conjoined twins he separated are doing as well as can be expected given that the procedure involved draining the blood out of two 7-month-old babies who were attached at the loving brain "The twins' blood was drained, their hearts stopped, and functionality of their brains limited." Non-functional hearts and brains - The GOP Base! 
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:He did roughly 15000 brain surgeries during his career and made mistakes on something like six of them. It's incredibly disingenuous to try to paint Carson as a bad neurosurgeon. Demanding absolute perfection is unreasonable and childish. Thanks for doing this, by the way, slapping down bullshit as it pops up in the thread. I'm usually catching up so I can't say it but you're the one routinely calling out partisan bollocks that has no real grounding when faced with scrutiny.
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Tesseraction posted:Thanks for doing this, by the way, slapping down bullshit as it pops up in the thread. I'm usually catching up so I can't say it but you're the one routinely calling out partisan bollocks that has no real grounding when faced with scrutiny. It's good.
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