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HorseLord posted:another nationalist thing americans do is worship their constitution. normal countries rewrite those all the time because otherwise they stop being relevant Hot takes against the internet community most likely to advocate for creating AI to remove human error in public governance.
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zeal posted:HorseLord is right regarding America. his WWII comments are needlessly hyperbolic, but he's not wrong that the United States is a nation of cowards founded on genocide Sounds like someone needs a little lesson in what happens to people who ain't patriotic enough. We'll cure you with a medicine 'sans frontier' if you know what I mean. 
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Oct 22, 2015 19:10
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There were few governments of its type when the constitution was written and subsequent governments in other countries have made huge improvements on the model it provided. It was intended to be mutable, but the bars to doing so are high enough that the lazier option is just to create a kind of hagiography around the constitution in its original form, which is to the country's detriment. OTOH some state governments basically write every tiny little law into their constitution and that's stupid
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Oct 22, 2015 19:14
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Tesseraction posted:Sounds like someone needs a little lesson in what happens to people who ain't patriotic enough. We'll cure you with a medicine 'sans frontier' if you know what I mean. only if you can get through the militaires sans frontier guarding my bunker-fortress, statist swine
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Oct 22, 2015 19:16
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The American Constitution was a nice idea in theory that ended up a quagmire in practice. Like most constitutions actually. We (Britain) bypassed this problem by never writing the loving thing down so it was a quagmire from the start. Oh wait that made the problem worse.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:16
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zeal posted:only if you can get through the militaires sans frontier guarding my bunker-fortress, statist swine I have an espionage rating of D motherfucker you'd be best be scared!
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Oct 22, 2015 19:17
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StandardVC10 posted:
i like how the yank constitution has basically no human rights provisions but people say poo poo like this
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Oct 22, 2015 19:17
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I don't think they had human rights when the US constitution was written. The amendments are supposed to be there to guarantee human rights as they were understood at the time.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:18
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HorseLord posted:i like how the yank constitution has basically no human rights provisions but people say poo poo like this Mate, a Stalinist is probably not the best person to rail against a state not guaranteeing human rights. Even if you agree with him, tankies can't believe in human rights and suppressing dissent.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:19
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umm the US constitution has plenty of rights for the people its authors considered fully human, other landowning white men
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Oct 22, 2015 19:19
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Horselord have you been to America? It's quite nice.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:19
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HorseLord posted:i like how the yank constitution has basically no human rights provisions but people say poo poo like this That's not what I'm talking about, but do continue being a complete loving moron
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Oct 22, 2015 19:20
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StandardVC10 posted:That's not what I'm talking about, but do continue being a complete loving moron Don't worry, he will!
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Oct 22, 2015 19:21
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HorseLord posted:i like how the yank constitution has basically no human rights provisions but people say poo poo like this Why do you even care? What's your dog in this fight and what the gently caress does it have to do with Libertarianism?
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Oct 22, 2015 19:24
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i've often found it fun to troll europeans about the overall shoddiness of their civilization in the same way he's trolling Americans itt a troll knows no obligation to honor the premises of the thread they troll
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Oct 22, 2015 19:26
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HorseLord posted:i like how the yank constitution has basically no human rights provisions but people say poo poo like this Still stinging about the colonial revolution huh?
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Oct 22, 2015 19:26
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Can we ignore the Stalinist and get back to laughing at libertarians? Or is this just part of the natural life cycle of a JRod thread before the containment zone was put in place? He loses his argument, he vanishes, and we start eating each other until the thread gets closed?
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Oct 22, 2015 19:27
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Nolanar posted:Can we ignore the Stalinist and get back to laughing at libertarians? I feel like a Stalinist mock thread would also be p. good.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:27
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The invisible hand of jrod is turning us against each other. Truly he is the puppetmaster... but is it violating the non-aggression principle to make us do this?
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Oct 22, 2015 19:28
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Nolanar posted:Or is this just part of the natural life cycle of a JRod thread before the containment zone was put in place? He loses his argument, he vanishes, and we start eating each other until the thread gets closed? Nah, usually either another libertarian will tag in, or we'll start writing Libertopia fan fiction.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:34
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Who What Now posted:Why do you even care? What's your dog in this fight and what the gently caress does it have to do with Libertarianism? Libertarianism is america's fault. You decided to oppose socialism and naturally vomited it's polar opposite all over the place.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:34
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HorseLord posted:Libertarianism is america's fault. You decided to oppose socialism and naturally vomited it's polar opposite all over the place. I mean, you're not wrong on that one.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:36
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HorseLord posted:Libertarianism is america's fault. You decided to oppose socialism and naturally vomited it's polar opposite all over the place. nah dude, like many of America's most grotesque ideological facets the blame for libertarianism lies squarely with the cretinous British from whose empire of blood, sugar and drug pushing we sprang
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Oct 22, 2015 19:37
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Jack of Hearts posted:I feel like a Stalinist mock thread would also be p. good. stalin's country: * population doubles, lifespan doubles, goes from having 100 million illiterates to a space industry, has less people in jail than america* americans: he's monster who kill eleven trillion people and ruined russias progress
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Oct 22, 2015 19:38
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HorseLord posted:i like how the yank constitution has basically no human rights provisions but people say poo poo like this Dude as a Stalinist I don't think that you have any ground to stand on when it comes to human rights, or anything really HorseLord posted:stalin's country: * population doubles, lifespan doubles, goes from having 100 million illiterates to a space industry, has less people in jail than america* lol what a retard
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Oct 22, 2015 19:39
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Nolanar posted:Or is this just part of the natural life cycle of a JRod thread before the containment zone was put in place? He loses his argument, he vanishes, and we start eating each other until the thread gets closed? That's how things usually end, but prior to that point we usually are treated to periods where Jrod vanishes for a while, then pops back up to only answer the most facile and unserious posts made (often ones which are accurately accusing his idols of being racists or misogynists for some odd reason) and decrying any number of petty complaints before essentially posting the same things he's already said all over again, sometimes interspersed with sneeringly self-righteous demands that us evil Statists "just put the guns down" w.r.t. the existence of basic social legislation and/or property tax. Of newer vintage, he also now seems to want to fight us in real life.
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Oct 22, 2015 19:40
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QuarkJets posted:Dude as a Stalinist I don't think that you have any ground to stand on when it comes to human rights, or anything really would you say that to paul robeson
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Oct 22, 2015 19:40
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only joking you don't know who that is
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Oct 22, 2015 19:40
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Nolanar posted:I mean, you're not wrong on that one. I have repeatedly called for the mass ridicule of libertarians. I will not stand for the implications that I am not for more extreme measures such as giving them wedgies!
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Oct 22, 2015 19:41
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HorseLord posted:would you say that to paul robeson Later in life Robeson stopped talking about Stalin because he realized what a colossal genocidal jackass Stalin was HorseLord posted:only joking you don't know who that is Looks like the joke's on you!
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modern, dedicated stalinists and trotskyists have always struck me as odd. it was a succession dispute in an empire most of them didn't even live in, that no longer exists, whose contenders left no dynasties to continue supporting. i mean, come on guy. stalin and trotsky are both a little too dead to care which one you'd have preferred get the big chair after Lenin
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zeal posted:modern, dedicated stalinists and trotskyists have always struck me as odd. it was a succession dispute in an empire most of them didn't even live in, that no longer exists, whose contenders left no dynasties to continue supporting. i mean, come on guy. stalin and trotsky are both a little too dead to care which one you'd have preferred get the big chair after Lenin b-b-but my ~*ideological correctness*~ 
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QuarkJets posted:Later in life Robeson stopped talking about Stalin because he realized what a colossal genocidal jackass Stalin was nope
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HorseLord posted:Libertarianism is america's fault. You decided to oppose socialism and naturally vomited it's polar opposite all over the place. Actually it's socialism's fault for not being good enough. Way to fuckin' ruin the world, Stalin, you inept dipshit.
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zeal posted:modern, dedicated stalinists and trotskyists have always struck me as odd. it was a succession dispute in an empire most of them didn't even live in, that no longer exists, whose contenders left no dynasties to continue supporting. i mean, come on guy. stalin and trotsky are both a little too dead to care which one you'd have preferred get the big chair after Lenin But the other guys are splitters!
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Nolanar posted:But the other guys are splitters! Workers of the world, unite! *immediately schisms into dozens of mutually antagonistic factions over the most trivial of bullshit*
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"this guy who lived in the USA most of his life eventually didnt praise the USSR and stalin as much as he used to. it must be because he changed his mind and not because he was a high profile victim of the US government's domestic anticommunist efforts* - an actual real person in this thread holy moly
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horselord would you assert that there is no war but the class war
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zeal posted:modern, dedicated stalinists and trotskyists have always struck me as odd. it was a succession dispute in an empire most of them didn't even live in, that no longer exists, whose contenders left no dynasties to continue supporting. i mean, come on guy. stalin and trotsky are both a little too dead to care which one you'd have preferred get the big chair after Lenin Be fair, though, one of them ruled the USSR and the other one got mined for thought-ore. There's nothing wrong with imagining a scenario where Lenin's last letter was passed on and Stalin didn't ascend to rule. It'd be purely academic of course... unless, wait, do you have a time machine? I'll pay you in doughnuts!
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