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Joementum posted:Keep in mind that if Biden were to suddenly die from overwhelming joy, Paul Ryan would be President. I wonder if the Republican House could get its poo poo together fast enough to do serious damage.
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Joementum posted:Never change, Matt. 11 hours for this
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Joementum posted:Keep in mind that if Biden were to suddenly die from overwhelming joy, Paul Ryan would be President. Can't Obama call backsies?
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Something Else posted:Isn't "hates Republicans the most" an equally or perhaps more dangerous form of ideological purity to "rejects big money interests"? How does her supposed hatred of Republicans make her more likely to get things done? I don't want to turn this into a Bernie vs. Hillary thing, but in my mind no. Obama wasted a massive amount of time trying to get the GOP to actually work with him when the democrats controlled the house and senate which turned out to be a massive mistake and one of the core reasons as to why the ADA sucks as hard as it does. That and she's not that far off from Sanders positions so it's like I get the badass Voltron version of Sanders instead of just the Blue Lion.
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Something Else posted:Isn't "hates Republicans the most" an equally or perhaps more dangerous form of ideological purity to "rejects big money interests"? How does her supposed hatred of Republicans make her more likely to get things done? Hmm, maybe you're right. Help me out by finishing this sentence. "A presidential candidate that would be more likely to get things done than HRC is ______"
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Something Else posted:Isn't "hates Republicans the most" an equally or perhaps more dangerous form of ideological purity to "rejects big money interests"? How does her supposed hatred of Republicans make her more likely to get things done? It means she won't waste a lot of time trying to compromise with a party that no longer understands the word. The fact that Obama spent something like six years trying to work with House Republicans that had absolutely zero intention of giving a nanometer is one of the most common complaints about his presidency.
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A Winner is Jew posted:I don't want to turn this into a Bernie vs. Hillary thing, but in my mind no. Obama wasted a massive amount of time trying to get the GOP to actually work with him when the democrats controlled the house and senate which turned out to be a massive mistake and one of the core reasons as to why the ADA sucks as hard as it does. That and she's not that far off from Sanders positions so it's like I get the Voltron version of Sanders instead of just the Blue Lion. Remember when Obama and Boehner agreed to cut Social Security only to have Eric Cantor blow up the deal because he wanted to be Speaker under Mitt Romney? Good times.
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Sharkie posted:When the debate participants were asked who their enemies were, she literally said "republicans." She did. You know, people (like me) always talk about how guarded and circuitously precise she is but when it comes to Republicans she does not give a gently caress at all, and never has. When it comes to what actually matters (destroying Republicans) she is as blunt as Trump.
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STAC Goat posted:I wonder if the Republican House could get its poo poo together fast enough to do serious damage. The senate would probably fillibuster everything. The worst he could do would be to undo all the executive orders for a few days.
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Joementum posted:Remember when Obama and Boehner agreed to cut Social Security only to have Eric Cantor blow up the deal because he wanted to be Speaker under Mitt Romney? Good times. This is the example I cite when anyone says the Republicans have any idea what they're doing. You literally had a president from the democratic party willing to go along with seriously damaging changes to our loving legacy, and you hosed it up.
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Also that one of the refrains of Bernie supporters and anti-HRC folks is that she's too far to the center and to willing to "triangulate" them away. So basically saying, "I hate them and I will fight them until my last dying breath" is good poltiics for her. No one who is persuadable (that's really no one anyway) is going to mind her saying this. Reminder, Republicans built a dominant political position around "we hate Obama"
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Joementum posted:Keep in mind that if Biden were to suddenly die from overwhelming joy, Paul Ryan would be President. I thought Senate guy was #3 in the line of succession.
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sullat posted:I thought Senate guy was #3 in the line of succession. VP is first, Speaker of the house is second and Senate guy is 3rd
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Chris Murphy @ChrisMurphyCT 50m50 minutes ago Trey Gowdy just said that they learned nothing new today from @HillaryClinton testimony. Solid day's work, guys.
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smg77 posted:VP is first, Speaker of the house is second and Senate guy is 3rd Though President Hatch would at least be better around the holidays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvpj4TqYGd8
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Joementum posted:Though President Hatch would at least be better around the holidays. i was tyring think of which one of those assholes was pro temp
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Chris Murphy @ChrisMurphyCT 50m50 minutes ago So is he implying she was stonewalling?
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I've been saying this since right after the first debate. She needs to get into a fight and win. She did just that. It is a bit self centered as she's merely defending herself and I can't help but feel good about wing nuts getting immolated. Now I need to see a fight that actually helps other people.
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Ornamented Death posted:It means she won't waste a lot of time trying to compromise with a party that no longer understands the word. The fact that Obama spent something like six years trying to work with House Republicans that had absolutely zero intention of giving a nanometer is one of the most common complaints about his presidency. Correct, and Bernie has criticized Obama on that exact point. Sharkie posted:Hmm, maybe you're right. Help me out by finishing this sentence. "A presidential candidate that would be more likely to get things done than HRC is ______" Agreed, they'd be about the same in their ability to get things done. But Bernie's things would include breaking up the banks.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Chris Murphy @ChrisMurphyCT 50m50 minutes ago Wait, so even Gowdy knows today was a total failure?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Chris Murphy @ChrisMurphyCT 50m50 minutes ago Sounds like a normal day in undergrad to me.
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smg77 posted:VP is first, Speaker of the house is second and Senate guy is 3rd Fair enough. For some reason I figured senate president took precedence, since normally Senators outrank Representatives, but I guess the law can overrule that.
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Something Else posted:Correct, and Bernie has criticized Obama on that exact point. Breaking up the banks isn't a thing he's going to get do, even if he were elected.
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Something Else posted:Correct, and Bernie has criticized Obama on that exact point. So would Hillary's.
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zoux posted:So is he implying she was stonewalling? She was a goddamned brick shithouse out there
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sullat posted:Fair enough. For some reason I figured senate president took precedence, since normally Senators outrank Representatives, but I guess the law can overrule that. Well, the President of the Senate does take precedence. 
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Something Else posted:Agreed, they'd be about the same in their ability to get things done. But Bernie's things would include breaking up the banks. There is a 0.0% chance that the banks will be broken up.
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Pick posted:Eighth. Eight committee, we are far higher in the total hearings count
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Speaking of the President of the Senate...quote:GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz signaled the Senate parliamentarian should be ousted or ignored if a full repeal of Obamacare is deemed to violate budget rules. ... wait for it... quote:In reality, Senate Republicans could not easily disregard an opinion by the parliamentarian that is favorable to Obamacare. 
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Fried Chicken posted:Eight committee, we are far higher in the total hearings count I think they said that she might now hold the record for longest hearing.
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Joementum posted:Speaking of the President of the Senate... Oh please god, "No Ted, this is a Big loving Deal. Now sit down. Also glad to see you here for a change."
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  Please raise a toast to a great Democrat, Trey Gowdy's Barber, at your local Jefferson-Jackson Dinner this year.
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So when's the next pointless hearing going to happen, which will ultimately only make Hillary look like even more the responsible adult in the room?
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And speaking of the President Pro Tem, here's the third most recent one ending a Congressional hearing with slightly more style than tonight's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeeGX_A8mo8 (Courtesy to Neil L. for this and the last article.)
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Something Else posted:Correct, and Bernie has criticized Obama on that exact point. I just hope you vote for Hillary when she wins the inevitable nomination instead of becoming a bitter asshat that would rather see the country burn
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GalacticAcid posted:
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