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DialTheDude
Jan 12, 2014

PORK RICE BOWLS

Lipstick Apathy

CheeseThief posted:

I just noticed for the first time that the dead sec skull winks at the end of the randomizer video clip things.
A better thing to do would have it make an apology for showing scenes like these. Then again, that would be one extra thing in this game that needs to apologize to the player.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Samizdata posted:

Wait. That's not how you do it?

Well, real "hacking" would be like that teenager who broke into the CIA director's AOL email address. Just about all of it was done through lying to people to get information that let them reset the password.

Honestly, a realistic hacking game based on social engineering and break-ins would be way more fun than Watch_Dogs.

ThatPazuzu
Sep 8, 2011

I'm so depressed, I can't even blink.
I want to make an encryption that can only be solved by beating 6 levels of Pipe Mania and maybe also Break Out.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

chitoryu12 posted:

Well, real "hacking" would be like that teenager who broke into the CIA director's AOL email address. Just about all of it was done through lying to people to get information that let them reset the password.

Honestly, a realistic hacking game based on social engineering and break-ins would be way more fun than Watch_Dogs.

Most realistic depiction of hacking in movies

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]

ThatPazuzu posted:

I want to make an encryption that can only be solved by beating 6 levels of Pipe Mania and maybe also Break Out.

I paid the big bucks to get a three tier Tower of Hanoi encryption algorithm.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

chitoryu12 posted:

Well, real "hacking" would be like that teenager who broke into the CIA director's AOL email address. Just about all of it was done through lying to people to get information that let them reset the password.

Honestly, a realistic hacking game based on social engineering and break-ins would be way more fun than Watch_Dogs.

A little too difficult to code, methinks. At least Uplink wasn't TOO bad.

The Dark Id posted:

I paid the big bucks to get a three tier Tower of Hanoi encryption algorithm.

Oh yeah? I have a Pokemon cracker tool that will slice RIGHT through that. You got robbed. ./CrackachuIChooseYou

Samizdata fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Oct 22, 2015

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


An algorithm where you have to alternate between jumping on the swinging pipe when you're climbing from wall market in FF7 and making all the jumps in the Tower of Babel in Xenogears flawlessly.

Edgy grandma was pretty hilarious.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

I think I'd like that glitchy ctOS video from the bunker more if it turned out that it really was an accurate reading of the room, and there was a DLC based around investigating it and suddenly AWESOME NON-CANON HORROR QUESTLINE!

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
who labels their apartments with letter names

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

chitoryu12 posted:

I think I'd like that glitchy ctOS video from the bunker more if it turned out that it really was an accurate reading of the room, and there was a DLC based around investigating it and suddenly AWESOME NON-CANON HORROR QUESTLINE!

If you want a non-canon horror questline, well, guess what game has that?

Sleeping Dogs.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008


No joke, most sophisticated breaking and entering involves sophisitcated brute force.

Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

Suspicious Dish posted:

who labels their apartments with letter names

My place is floor number followed by letter name, if that means anything. Maybe edgy grandma was only talking about apartments on her floor?

MechanicalTomPetty
Oct 30, 2011

Runnin' down a dream
That never would come to me

The Dark Id posted:

I paid the big bucks to get a three tier Tower of Hanoi encryption algorithm.

Is it sad that, even after all these years, I still know exactly what you're talking about?

Say what you will about Mass Effect, at least it's take on the karma meter had it's moments.

Edit: I just noticed we're still in act 2, goddamn you weren't kidding when you said this took awhile. About how much longer have we got before we actually move one to something else?

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


Just caught up to the latest video, so I don't know if someone's already said this, but those sections where you're watching through cameras and telling someone else when/where to move could have been the basis for a really cool game. Rather than directly controlling a character you'd be telling your partner what to do and providing distractions and other backup, like phoning people to get them out of the way, or social engineering passwords out of people so your guy on the ground can log into a computer, or pretending to be someone on the phone to confirm your partner's fake identity, with a bunch of sections where you have to help him sneak into places or get away from pursuers.

Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Tiggum posted:

Just caught up to the latest video, so I don't know if someone's already said this, but those sections where you're watching through cameras and telling someone else when/where to move could have been the basis for a really cool game. Rather than directly controlling a character you'd be telling your partner what to do and providing distractions and other backup, like phoning people to get them out of the way, or social engineering passwords out of people so your guy on the ground can log into a computer, or pretending to be someone on the phone to confirm your partner's fake identity, with a bunch of sections where you have to help him sneak into places or get away from pursuers.

Do you know about Lifeline? I never played so I don't if you can do what you described, but you do play as someone who directs someone else using a USB headset.

Male Man
Aug 16, 2008

Im, too sexy for your teatime
Too sexy for your teatime
That tea that you're just driiinkiing

chitoryu12 posted:

Well, real "hacking" would be like that teenager who broke into the CIA director's AOL email address. Just about all of it was done through lying to people to get information that let them reset the password.

Honestly, a realistic hacking game based on social engineering and break-ins would be way more fun than Watch_Dogs.

More than once in the script it's implied that Aiden's expertise is social engineering. It, uh, doesn't make a very compelling argument to back it up, though.

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
Instead of causing a blackout, the guy probably should have moved further out like Russia or China and sold the information about the Blume Corporation's corruption. Not inside Blume's rear end in a top hat, Ubisoft. The people would have loved him.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



Bluhman posted:

Actually really curious about this as well. This gritty "grown-up" title is the last thing I'd expect to see on Wii-U, and there's other realistic games out there that are way less uncomfortable that didn't make it on the console either.

Ubisoft tends to go all in with new systems, at least for a while. They made some stuff for the original Wii as well. Watch_Dogs isn't the only game they've done on the Wii U; Ubisoft has put out a couple of Assassin's Creed games on the platform, as well as the most recent Splinter Cell.

if you think those are a weird fit, just keep in mind that there's a Call of Duty game on Wii U

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING

MechanicalTomPetty posted:

Edit: I just noticed we're still in act 2, goddamn you weren't kidding when you said this took awhile. About how much longer have we got before we actually move one to something else?

I think (some of it blurs together in my head) Chip just finished Act 2 or is one mission away from it. Act 3 mostly takes place in Pawnee and is where the game peaks.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Male Man posted:

More than once in the script it's implied that Aiden's expertise is social engineering. It, uh, doesn't make a very compelling argument to back it up, though.

It doesn't make any argument to back it up. The closest Aiden ever comes to social engineering is blackmailing and threatening a few people into doing what he asks, and most of his actions involve beating and shooting people or activating downloaded apps on his phone.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Jeez, that actually didn't fully register with me until just now. This is supposed to be a hacking game, but as far as hacking goes, anyone with a smartphone could do what Aiden is doing right now. A literal monkey could be The Vigilante.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Ariong posted:

Jeez, that actually didn't fully register with me until just now. This is supposed to be a hacking game, but as far as hacking goes, anyone with a smartphone could do what Aiden is doing right now. A literal monkey could be The Vigilante.

Yep, Aiden is specifically setup in the backstory to be Damian's force projection guy a thug who Damien can hack through.

Argent Cinereus
Feb 25, 2013

Ariong posted:

Jeez, that actually didn't fully register with me until just now. This is supposed to be a hacking game, but as far as hacking goes, anyone with a smartphone could do what Aiden is doing right now. A literal monkey could be The Vigilante.

And be less conspicuous about it. Even with the ICONIC CAP AND COAT.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Ariong posted:

Jeez, that actually didn't fully register with me until just now. This is supposed to be a hacking game, but as far as hacking goes, anyone with a smartphone could do what Aiden is doing right now. A literal monkey could be The Vigilante.

Except a monkey couldn't wear the Iconic Cap and pisscoat.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

chitoryu12 posted:

It doesn't make any argument to back it up. The closest Aiden ever comes to social engineering is blackmailing and threatening a few people into doing what he asks, and most of his actions involve beating and shooting people or activating downloaded apps on his phone.

There was that time he called some mob guy's niece pretending to be a hospital employee asking after her uncle, that's like the one real bit of actual social engineering I can recall in the game thus far.

edit; and that didn't even work as intended, she totally saw through it.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Kai Tave posted:

There was that time he called some mob guy's niece pretending to be a hospital employee asking after her uncle, that's like the one real bit of actual social engineering I can recall in the game thus far.

edit; and that didn't even work as intended, she totally saw through it.

Aiden Pearce is so bad at social engineering that the plan took that into account and required that she see right through him.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Garrand posted:

Aiden Pearce is so bad at social engineering that the plan took that into account and required that she see right through him.
Social engineering followed up by social shootout and social car chase, was it? I honestly can't remember anymore.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
So who's Ray Kenney, why do we care about him, and what does this have to do with... avenging our niece? Getting back getting back our nephew? Stopping Blume? Whatever it is we're doing right now. We're at least done with Iraq and the sex slave stuff, right?


Ahem. :colbert:

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

A man with an iconic hat all in yellow? Monkey?

Dr. Buttass
Aug 12, 2013

AWFUL SOMETHING

Suspicious Dish posted:

who labels their apartments with letter names

I was in a 14C once. At least it wasn't 14-cee.

PublicOpinion
Oct 21, 2010

Her style is new but the face is the same as it was so long ago...
Track down Kenney to decript the file that was on the server at the end of the IP address that was a lead on the Merlaut incident found by Damien who kidnapped the sister who swallowed the fly. I guess she'll die.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

Mr Tastee posted:

My place is floor number followed by letter name, if that means anything. Maybe edgy grandma was only talking about apartments on her floor?

the only way she can see all those apartments from that angle is if she's outside looking in

those people need to close their blinds

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Aiden is so good at socialising that he married and had a family with his sister.

Ometeotl
Feb 13, 2012



It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...



Aurain posted:

Aiden is so good at socialising that he married and had a family with his sister.

:effort:

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Wanamingo posted:

So who's Ray Kenney, why do we care about him, and what does this have to do with... avenging our niece? Getting back getting back our nephew? Stopping Blume? Whatever it is we're doing right now. We're at least done with Iraq and the sex slave stuff, right?


Ahem. :colbert:

That's TV, not a movie.

Its spectacular realism isn't relevant to the discussion at hand, no matter how accurate it is to the actual process.

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008

Electric Phantasm posted:

Do you know about Lifeline? I never played so I don't if you can do what you described, but you do play as someone who directs someone else using a USB headset.

I played lifeline, it's better than you'd think it would be considering its gimmick premise. There's even minigames where you play word games with the person you direct around.

dregan
Jan 16, 2005

I could transport you all into space if I wanted.

Tiggum posted:

Just caught up to the latest video, so I don't know if someone's already said this, but those sections where you're watching through cameras and telling someone else when/where to move could have been the basis for a really cool game.

You should check out eXperience 112, it's similar to what you're describing. Considerably slower-paced, and with an interface that could best be described as designed by a computer scientist, but I enjoyed it.

Lifeline was great too, but is a text-only phone game that plays out over the course of a few days. Worth a shot!

Ekster
Jul 18, 2013

Yeah Lifeline is surprisingly good.

You get to control a waifu with your voice.

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



It's a shame that the PS2 doesn't seem to recognize most modern USB microphones, at least none of the ones i have anyway. I have to control her with the controller and it's very annoying

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bman in 2288
Apr 21, 2010

Ekster posted:

Yeah Lifeline is surprisingly good.

You get to control a waifu with your voice.

I though that the voice recognition system was buggy as poo poo because it didn't understand American accents very well, and thus it was really disliked.

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