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If you last played at launch the game is much, much better now.
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Cuckoo posted:If you already purchased ESO, the game is definitely at least worth a playthrough from 1-50. After 50 it can be a take it or leave it situation but personally the Cadwell's levels, AKA vet ranks 1-16, don't bother me much. (I just wish they weren't instanced only to others of my own faction, it feels like such an empty world outside of my own faction because there's no one else to see Yeah, Cadwell's Silver feels pretty barren. I can't wait to see Cadwell's Gold. It'll probably be a ghost town. After level 50, PvE got really dull, but I think PvP* is still fun in the vet ranks. The only problem is the terrible grind to get better gear, but in some ways it's not so bad either. I just hit V3 the other night, and I know that with how long it takes to hit the next rank, it's actually viable to buy and upgrade gear at my level, since I won't be replacing it the very next day. *IC PvP. The keep stuff is still slow and boring, albeit sort of exciting to try and ride deep into enemy territory without being seen. LastGoodBoy fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Aeka 2.0 posted:I played this for a a couple of days at launch. Haven't touched it since. I just got bored. How is it now? Are you a wildly obsessive turbosperg who isn't happy unless you're squeezing every fraction of a point of damage out of your build and prone to raging out about how Zenimax is ruining the game and you hate it even though you play it compulsively? If so, sure don't bother playing. Do you like vaguely action mmo-y gameplay, Elder Scrolls games, and well designed areas inside a fairly linear world design with decent writing? Then come play, this game is actually really fun and good.
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Oct 20, 2015 18:51
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I am not sure what to do. My failplar is 46 and just finishing Bangkorai. If I hit 50 can I just stay there for a bit finishing up Undaunted and things like that or do I get immediately kicked into VR and all of that becomes unavailable? Is there a list of things I should get done before 50, or can I just linger there finishing guild and main quests? What is the best way to get groups for Unduanted and such? Do I just go hang out at that Unduanted enclave a few zones back or something? Sorry for my spergy ignorance.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:42
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Sogol posted:I am not sure what to do. My failplar is 46 and just finishing Bangkorai. If I hit 50 can I just stay there for a bit finishing up Undaunted and things like that or do I get immediately kicked into VR and all of that becomes unavailable? Is there a list of things I should get done before 50, or can I just linger there finishing guild and main quests? What is the best way to get groups for Unduanted and such? Do I just go hang out at that Unduanted enclave a few zones back or something? Sorry for my spergy ignorance. Nothing happens when you hit fifty, none of the content is locked out for you.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:44
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1. You don't get locked out. 2. Go to Wayrest, spam LFG pledges there. 3. Fighter's/Mages'/Main quest stuff all scale to level, don't worry about losing exp there.
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Oct 20, 2015 19:50
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Man it's near impossible figuring out which class to play. I've been reading up and watching Youtubes, but since these classes look nothing like the normal RPG classes I just can't choose. Also, it seems like all classes have some sort of magic involved, even if you just want to hit poo poo with a 2-hander. I'm now leaning on Sorcerer with full magicka, since the class skills and the weapon skills use magicka. I feel like if I'd play a melee character I'd have to divide magicka and stamina/health more. Now I can just sort of focus on one. I think I'm just gonna recreate my WoW warlock.
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Sioux posted:Man it's near impossible figuring out which class to play. I've been reading up and watching Youtubes, but since these classes look nothing like the normal RPG classes I just can't choose. Also, it seems like all classes have some sort of magic involved, even if you just want to hit poo poo with a 2-hander. I'm now leaning on Sorcerer with full magicka, since the class skills and the weapon skills use magicka. I feel like if I'd play a melee character I'd have to divide magicka and stamina/health more. Now I can just sort of focus on one. I think I'm just gonna recreate my WoW warlock. I don't think about this game in terms of classes. I think more in terms of roles. Roles are defined by resource management and skill aggregation. Aside from real min/max dynamics almost any "class" can play any role. For a feel of end game Magicka Sorc focused on dps and 1 v many PvP you could watch a bit of King Richard's stream. For a dps Stam Sorc in the same meta FENGRUSH is a pretty good example you can reference. Both stream on twitch and have youtube vids. You can make your Sorc a tank or healer as well though. Heck, it is possible for a Templar to tank and heal at the same time. I think DKs can be a bit more limited, but also think that will change again.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:09
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In a surprising twist, Zenimax actually took the time to clear up the ruckus about the Mercenary motif and style material issues. -Bronze Chests will drop a Motif Page 40% of the time, Silver Chests 50% of the time, Gold Chests 60% of the time -The Laurel drop rate will be at an adjusted linear drop rate. 0% drop rate with 0 chapters learned, 50% drop rate with 1 chapter learned, and each additional chapter adds ~4% to the drop rate. Pretty reasonable, and if they had given out this information initially there would have been a lot less panic in the streets overall.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:03
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Sioux posted:hit poo poo with a 2-hander While all of the class skills start out as magicka-based, many of them have a stamina morph. It's important as you're leveling to get all your new skills to the morph, so you can see what those morph choices are. I've done endgame melee with all of the classes, and they all work just fine with nothing but the bare minimum in magicka. I do prefer to use purple (tri-stat) food on my templar instead of blue health/stam food, because it gives me an extra cast of breath of life. But otherwise, it's the least health you can get away with and everything else in stamina. Also, if you're still interested in melee, I'd recommend a redguard or imperial sorcerer.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:18
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Berke Negri posted:If you last played at launch the game is much, much better now. Don't lie to him, Dragonknights are a shadow of their former selves. (RIP 0 cost Bat Swarm spam)
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Oct 20, 2015 23:21
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Scyantific posted:Dragonknights are a shadow of their former selves. RIP 4 standards out at once, too. Poor dragonknights.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:23
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0XRE8gSk5k I want this again. Bring back Dynamic Ultimate Generation.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:30
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I just bought this on Xbone for $20.. Does anyone actually play on Xbox? Is it a barren wasteland? I don't really care, I largely just want to pretend it's a single player elder scrolls game. Hopefully it's a fun ride through the main line quest stuff. I'm playing a wood elf stamina archer nightblade. I hope this is not too horrible. Do I need to put any points into HP? It hasn't been an issue so far.
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Oct 21, 2015 01:39
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You probably won't have issues with HP during levels 1-50 (make sure to bring some +HP food for dungeons), but you'll want some HP when you get to VR levels. However there are multiple ways to hit the HP sweet spot such as putting +HP enchants on your gear and stuff. Personally I put about 20% of my points into HP and the rest into stamina, on my NB stam DPS guy. I still put a few HP enchants on one or two pieces just to make sure I can take a hit or three in max level dungeons. If you're not sure, throw a few points in. Reallocating those points is easy and relatively cheap later on.
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Oct 21, 2015 02:06
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Per request, here's my Sap-Tank setup: -Yes, I am still running v12 Engine Guardian -The v14 stuff is getting upgraded to v16 eventually 
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Oct 21, 2015 04:05
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Substandard posted:I just bought this on Xbone for $20.. Does anyone actually play on Xbox? Is it a barren wasteland? I just started playing on my little bastard bosmer again. I've put all attrib points into stamina but have two armour pieces enchanted with health (both with the infused trait, but they're small armour pieces). It doesn't seem too squishy so far
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Oct 21, 2015 08:02
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I think generally when you're a damage dealer (and maybe a tank as well, I dunno) your health is more like a reservoir than a supply because you want to have some self heals going on, so it's kind of how big your margin for error is. Nightblades in particular have powerful self heals all over the place The problem with my hosed up stam dragonknight is I don't have a proper supply of self heals which are a side effect of dealing damage, whereas with the nightblade all I've gotta do is stab something (i.e. stack mark target and killer's blade) and I get half my max hp back vug fucked around with this message at 13:16 on Oct 21, 2015 |
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Oct 21, 2015 13:10
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Stamina chat here. There's two things that get me in endgame PvE. First, there's being surrounded by a ridiculous number of easily killed adds that chip away at your health. Second, there's getting hit by some unavoidable (or avoidable and I suck) chunk of 18k+ damage. Every class can fix the first problem with something like brawler, which scales its damage shield with the number of enemies it hits. Reaper's mark is also good at this, if in a more interactive way, and I use both on my nightblade. The second problem needs two emergency heals to stack to 18k. Sorcerers have rally and surge. Templars have rally and breath of life/remembrance. Dragonknights have rally and green dragon blood (which is +12% healing received when it's up, so it's just all around good). Nightblades have rally and, since there's generally no adds around after the big hits, nothing. Hope your healer is on the ball! That's why stamina nightblade is my least favorite PvE combo. It's great damage, but it's completely dependent on having a good healer or lucking out with engine guardian, and I don't want to be one of those guys always blaming the healer for my terrible build. You're almost forced to use a bow so you can avoid many (but not all) of the big chunks of damage. But bow is significantly less damage than melee (rightfully so, given the decreased risk), so you're basically better off ignoring your racial passives and going magicka (same risk as bow, more damage). Too bad everybody loves stamina nightblade in PvP, because it'll never see another PvE buff, and it really needs one. e: Maybe all those stamina nightblades in PvP are just grinding AP to unlock vigor. tgidieday fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Oct 22, 2015 |
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Oct 21, 2015 14:45
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you know what, the thing is i can solo the gently caress out of any world boss craglorn anything with my templar healer, but my stamina dd's can't dd their way out of a wet paper bag. im fairly sure the game system is unbalanced
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Oct 23, 2015 17:48
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If you want to tell the devs to buff stamina damage dealers, I won't stop you. On a related note, just 3-manned the molag bal simulacrum, and I'm sure we could have done it with two. It's a hard fight, but every emperor should be able to solo it, 2k champ points or not.
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Oct 23, 2015 19:03
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tgidieday posted:If you want to tell the devs to buff stamina damage dealers, I won't stop you. There's been 2 emp-solos of the molag ballin simulation.
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Oct 23, 2015 19:18
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So I'm playing a magicka destro-staff Altmer sorcerer and just got to level 10. It's fun, but I have a few questions:
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Oct 23, 2015 20:23
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There's no difference between the various mounts, instead there is a per-character "riding skill" that you gradually increase once per day at the stables. A crown mount is fine if you want it to look a particular way, but otherwise you can sell all the gear you pick up and don't want and get enough gold for the cheapest horse by the end of the first zone (although get some space upgrades from the bag vendor first!). Whatever you do, be sure to go to Cyrodiil now that you're level 10 and do the quest there for rapid maneuver, which can be cast from your horse. Without rapid maneuver, a 0% speed horse is not much faster than walking. To reallocate points, you need to go to the "capital" of your faction, which is located in the second zone. There'll be shrines there for reallocating skill points (morphs or all of them) as well as attribute points. The cost of reallocating is not too bad, as it scales with the number of points you've assigned. You should probably have at least one skill from each of your class skill trees on your bar at all times, so that all of the skill trees level up (unlocking new skills and passives). Note that ultimates (which you get at skill rank 12) count for leveling purposes. It helps in your case because the first skills (clannfear, crystal shards, and mage's fury) are all strong early on, so they're worth the skill points. Treasure maps give you a tiny amount of gold and a mediocre item leveled for the area, so you can just destroy them. You got the important bit which is being able to play whatever race you want. There's no auction house, and you can join up to five guilds, so it's fairly easy to find a trade guild to vendor your stuff. That said, I don't think it's worth dealing with a trade guild until much later in the game. The later zones give you more gold, so it's better to play the game and get there, rather than to try to min-max your gold return on level 1-14 mats.
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Oct 23, 2015 23:43
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I can solo the IC Molag at V3. It's not hard at all.
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Oct 23, 2015 23:51
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Have you done so?
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Oct 24, 2015 00:09
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JackBadass posted:I can solo the IC Molag at V3. It's not hard at all. Source?
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Oct 24, 2015 00:33
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In a desperate attempt to get people to use the LFG tool, Zeni's added a damage bonus and damage reduction buff to groups who are formed with the tool. They will also get a loot bag at the end of dungeons just for bothering to use the tool.
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Oct 24, 2015 00:35
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Scyantific posted:In a desperate attempt to get people to use the LFG tool, Zeni's added a damage bonus and damage reduction buff to groups who are formed with the tool. They will also get a loot bag at the end of dungeons just for bothering to use the tool.  I swear to god once I finish the main story I'm done with this game.
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Oct 24, 2015 01:08
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Wow did this expacs ago and it was a good feature. You get less co-ordination with randoms instead of guildies and friends so it means more successful groups
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tgidieday posted:Source? I'll do it later, I just don't feel like it now. It's no big deal, though. Pretty easy for me to kill him because I'm so great and stuff.
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Scyantific posted:In a desperate attempt to get people to use the LFG tool, Zeni's added a damage bonus and damage reduction buff to groups who are formed with the tool. They will also get a loot bag at the end of dungeons just for bothering to use the tool. Cool, that's a good thing.
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Mercury_Storm posted:
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Not sure, it seems like an effective way to get people to use the grouping tool and will probably cut down on the number of people spamming for groups in zone chat. The bonuses and such will probably be small, but still nice, and will make doing tough veteran dungeons with PUGs a little more doable. WoW had implemented something very similar a while ago.
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Oct 24, 2015 12:44
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Gordong Dongbay posted:How exactly is this a bad thing? It's another one of those times where they just apply an awkwardly placed bandaid instead of fixing the actual problem, namely that the actual grouping tool is garbage which is why no one wanted to use it in the first place.
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Oct 24, 2015 13:43
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i made a new character a while ago (daggerfall covenant) and was reminded that the start of the game is one of the worst parts of it. the whole thing where you start in daggerfall and then choose to go off to these little islands doesn't make any sense. they applied that particular band aid at *launch* and have never fixed it properly. it's classic bad software project management symptoms
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vug posted:i made a new character a while ago (daggerfall covenant) and was reminded that the start of the game is one of the worst parts of it. the whole thing where you start in daggerfall and then choose to go off to these little islands doesn't make any sense. they applied that particular band aid at *launch* and have never fixed it properly. it's classic bad software project management symptoms During the last round of open betas before launch people really seriously lost their poo poo that they had to do the starter islands instead of going straight to the mainland because it cut down on ~choice~ but Ive always thought it was kind of inelegant to do it the way they did and it just ends up with new players being underleveled because they don't know to go do the starter islands.
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Oct 24, 2015 17:52
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Berke Negri posted:During the last round of open betas before launch people really seriously lost their poo poo that they had to do the starter islands instead of going straight to the mainland because it cut down on ~choice~ but Ive always thought it was kind of inelegant to do it the way they did and it just ends up with new players being underleveled because they don't know to go do the starter islands. Typical case of listening to the vocal idiots, sadly. 
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Oct 24, 2015 18:28
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Berke Negri posted:During the last round of open betas before launch people really seriously lost their poo poo that they had to do the starter islands instead of going straight to the mainland because it cut down on ~choice~ but Ive always thought it was kind of inelegant to do it the way they did and it just ends up with new players being underleveled because they don't know to go do the starter islands. Yup, this happened to me. I didn't even realize I'd missed all the stater island crap until, like, 2 weeks ago. Suddenly it all makes sense now. I remember complaining about being under-leveled and a bunch of people saying that they were the exact opposite and quickly outleveling the first zone. Oh well.
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lord_daeloth posted:Yup, this happened to me. I didn't even realize I'd missed all the stater island crap until, like, 2 weeks ago. Suddenly it all makes sense now. I remember complaining about being under-leveled and a bunch of people saying that they were the exact opposite and quickly outleveling the first zone. Oh well. And it works fine for like, DC I think because it's kind of just whatever on the side but EP storyline can be really jarring without doing the starter stuff, or at least you miss out on a lot.
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