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ShadowMar posted:the octovine event is really cool in theory, in practice it's a bunch of brain dead pubbies running around while 2 or 3 people yell at them for being idiots and the event is tuned for way too many people compared to how many people even attempt it So its the Tequatl rework again?
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Oct 25, 2015 05:12
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^^^ lol so trueShadowMar posted:the octovine event is really cool in theory, in practice it's a bunch of brain dead pubbies running around while 2 or 3 people yell at them for being idiots and the event is tuned for way too many people compared to how many people even attempt it So it's every large event in this entire game
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Oct 25, 2015 05:12
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Had a lot of fun running around getting hero points with the torrid mass of goons tonight. Important note: tonics that can jump can also glide, though they do not show any wings. The large spider from the normal plastic spider tonic can jump. It works best if you have a kite with it, though the birthday blaster is also great.
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quote:GW2 doesn’t fall into the traps of traditional MMORPGs. It doesn’t suck your life away and force you onto a grinding treadmill; it doesn’t make you spend hours preparing to have fun rather than just having fun quote:It all gets back to our basic design philosophy. Our games aren’t about preparing to have fun, or about grinding for a future fun reward. Our games are designed to be fun from moment to moment. e: just for giggles obv, they abandoned this design goal years ago. I was just feeling nostalgic.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:16
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Orv posted:I crafting or tome leveled all but two of my characters, and didn't do the story on most of them, which means it's a gigantic loving pain in my rear end, and I'm not interested in putting in the kind of commitment I did a decade ago with MMOs. It's still way too much time. it definitely is. somehow it's a combination of a couple of awful things making it tedious instead of just having...maybe one awful part. map completion only gives half the points needed. the jungle hero points either involve groups (which is sketchy at best) or are gated behind masteries. the total needed is 400, which means that even with full map completion you still have to do 20 skill things in HoT. if even one of those parts wasn't poo poo then maybe it wouldn't be as bad, but right now it is and if anet doesn't change something then they're genuinely dumb. CLAM DOWN posted:So it's every large event in this entire game no, other events typically don't involve 4 boss fights happening at the same time, each with their own tedious gimmick that can be actively sabotaged by a single person with little to no effort at times. also, once a single boss thing is killed then you have 2 minutes to kill the rest before that boss is brought back with some hp and the rest get even more hp back, making it so that they have to be killed within a small window of time. all while dealing with waves of mordrem poo poo, which is questionable at best. it's a lot of cool ideas and it's neat that they're experimenting, but right now it's a genuine parade of awfulness.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:17
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CLAM DOWN posted:^^^ lol so true I don't think it'll be too bad in a few weeks when everyone understands it, but it isn't very good right now. Despite each of the 4 quadrants telling you clearly what you need to do, people are a bit dumb. Actually people on that map in general are a bit dumb in working out the meta event. I think the meta on the third map is kinda cool but holy poo poo it will take a while for me to not get lost in there.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:24
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the xpac is actually a really cool and fantastic base marred by a bunch of poor design choices thrown on top for The Grind or naive ideas about how the player base acts removing the itzel 4 mastery gate for the story is a good sign, so hopefully they'll take everyone's other complaints seriously
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Reddit is interesting today. On the one hand, the topics getting upvoted the most are about "uh guys did you expect to beat HoT in a day? Stop complaining about grinding  ," which is not surprising. On the other hand, all the top-rated comments in those threads are people actually explaining that, no, they didn't want to finish HoT in one day, they just want to play their drat elite spec. Usually if something gets upvoted into the sky, only comments agreeing with it are getting upvoted, too.I dunno. I'm feeling really unmotivated to play, which is a shame. I just want to play Chronomancer and I'm sure I could just put my head down and grind it out and have it in a week of my usual playing but... I don't want to do that. Hunting down hero points isn't fun. But also, I better do it soon, before everyone else moves on and I have to beg goons to help me kill the champs. 
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Oct 25, 2015 05:30
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Can we take a second to acknowledge the irony that gating the hero points behind huge maps and challenges to mitigate binge-gaming is actually getting many people to say "gently caress better do this fast before the crowds disappear and I have to beg people who already completed it to help me"?
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Oct 25, 2015 05:34
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ShadowMar posted:the xpac is actually a really cool and fantastic base marred by a bunch of poor design choices thrown on top for The Grind or naive ideas about how the player base acts yeah, pretty much. i like that they're actually trying to mix things up with a lot of this stuff, but even with people at large getting a hang of what's going on there's still some events/whatever that really need to be retuned so that they're not frustrating as gently caress. if there's one thing i can say, it's that the expansion is surprisingly not that buggy. i almost wish it was buggy, because some of those bugs might make some of this stuff easier.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:35
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mind the walrus posted:Can we take a second to acknowledge the irony that gating the hero points behind huge maps and challenges to mitigate binge-gaming is actually getting many people to say "gently caress better do this fast before the crowds disappear and I have to beg people who already completed it to help me"? anet still hasn't figured out that what they intend players to do has never aligned with what players actually do
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Oct 25, 2015 05:38
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Harrow posted:I dunno. I'm feeling really unmotivated to play, which is a shame. I just want to play Chronomancer and I'm sure I could just put my head down and grind it out and have it in a week of my usual playing but... I don't want to do that. Hunting down hero points isn't fun. But also, I better do it soon, before everyone else moves on and I have to beg goons to help me kill the champs. I actually stopped playing GW2 a few months ago (only logged in for login reward) because I was burnt out playing so much. With the announcement of HoT I was pumped and excited for it. I followed the news enough to know what some things where but not too much. I was excited all week and look forward to playing and now 2 days later I don't want to play much. I'll eventually get the elite spec and some of the masteries eventually. I'm just looking forward to getting there.
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mind the walrus posted:Can we take a second to acknowledge the irony that gating the hero points behind huge maps and challenges to mitigate binge-gaming is actually getting many people to say "gently caress better do this fast before the crowds disappear and I have to beg people who already completed it to help me"? I think I feel this way for two reasons: 1. The thing they gated behind those hero points is, no joke, like 50% of the reason I got the expansion pack. I was hoping I'd have Chronomancer fully unlocked and be able to use it for most of Heart of Thorns's story stuff, but that probably won't happen unless I binge the hero points. 2. Most hero point challenges are incredibly punishing to solo. If that wasn't the case, I think I'd probably just shut up and go do it and it would be fine. Make them veterans, not champions, and you solve most of the problem. As it is, I think it's going to be a nightmare to unlock elite specs a few months from now. It adds to the pressure to do it right now because it's going to be much more of a pain to do it later.
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Harrow posted:I dunno. I'm feeling really unmotivated to play, which is a shame. I just want to play Chronomancer and I'm sure I could just put my head down and grind it out and have it in a week of my usual playing but... I don't want to do that. Hunting down hero points isn't fun. But also, I better do it soon, before everyone else moves on and I have to beg goons to help me kill the champs. Very much feeling this way. Right now without being able to play elite spec the only thing I enjoy from this expac so far is the art design on the maps, but even then playing them can be so goddamn annoying sometimes that I kinda never want to see verdant brink again. edit: and action cam is rad, but that was some dude making some rad poo poo in his spare time. NapoleonAtWaterloo fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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The biggest issue I had was just the scarcity of players. Tons of people are doing the xpac content, yet I am running around only occasionally seeing someone. If there were tons of people, then that champ wouldn't be so bad. I wonder if they lowered the number of players on maps to avoid issues, or maybe the whole dang thing is counting as one zone for number purposes.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:47
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the elite specs being so heavily gated also sucks because out of all the poo poo to grind for it's basically the least enjoyable to do as much, because all you're doing is unlocking basic functionalities for your class. it's the Leveling Rework all over again except instead of poo poo like 'being able to use an elite skill' it's 3x the effort for just being able to use a single trait line that only offers an alternate way to play and not 'actual' progression. and yeah, if the enemies from the hero challenges were even just elites instead of champions then there probably wouldn't be as much of a rush to get them done while other players are still looking to do them.
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Eltoasto posted:The biggest issue I had was just the scarcity of players. Tons of people are doing the xpac content, yet I am running around only occasionally seeing someone. If there were tons of people, then that champ wouldn't be so bad. I wonder if they lowered the number of players on maps to avoid issues, or maybe the whole dang thing is counting as one zone for number purposes. Only place I've felt like there was a lot of people is in the last map, Dragons Stand. Just because it is a 3-lane map and you kinda have to congregate.
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Eltoasto posted:The biggest issue I had was just the scarcity of players. Tons of people are doing the xpac content, yet I am running around only occasionally seeing someone. If there were tons of people, then that champ wouldn't be so bad. I wonder if they lowered the number of players on maps to avoid issues, or maybe the whole dang thing is counting as one zone for number purposes. My guess is the second one: each big zone probably counts as one zone for player population purposes, so even though they're letting in a number of players that would be fine in any other zone, it feels like there aren't nearly enough. It's why you end up feeling like you have to actively party up with people to do events, because you can't rely on just running across enough people. If they fixed that somehow, that would go a long way towards improving the open world experience.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:53
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I've often started or seen someone doing a hero point solo, and then the crowd grows up to 5 by the end, and then in the blink of an eye everyone was gone again. It's not atrocious but no loving way do I want to do that for every class to unlock their elites. Also hope y'all made your money on flax while the making was good.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:55
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The last two nights we have had goontrains running as many hero points as possible (thank you so much Monorang, Hlatun and Schpyder) and I can safely say that without a mass of helpful guildmates unlocking hero points loving sucks. Even with a mass of helpful guildmates it was pretty brutal at times. I'm not sure it'll be possible a couple months from now.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:56
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SlothBear posted:Yeah Anet's servers are getting hammered. Wiki down etc. Wiki/Forum servers are the same physical hardware, but they have zero to do with any game servers.
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:The last two nights we have had goontrains running as many hero points as possible (thank you so much Monorang, Hlatun and Schpyder) and I can safely say that without a mass of helpful guildmates unlocking hero points loving sucks. They're going to have to either tone down the champions or lower the hero point requirements for elite specs, ideally both, within a couple of months or it's going to be awful.
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Schpyder posted:hello me If anyone else is having this problem (ctd followed by not being able to use the launcher anymore) here is how I fixed it: I moved the .dat file, uninstalled the game, reinstalled it, then put the .dat file back. Most of the stuff recommended in the past to fix it didn't work, but that took care of it.
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I don't think I ever got a single character above 20 or so, because I gots the alt-itis BAD. Besides the release of the Revenant, has much changed with the launch of the expansion for someone like me? I barely even know what talents are, let alone masteries or hero points or whatever all this other poo poo y'all are on about is. I kinda wanna pick up Guardian, I think. I've got kind of an irrational love of your holy/Cleric smite-mine-enemies-with-the-power-of-the-Lord-GOD types. (ed: though I guess going Dragonhunter kind of loses some of that aesthetic, maybe? I dunno how any of that works  )
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Reaper is fun. But so far the expansion is incredibly frustrating and not giving me a huge desire to play any of it. Masteries take for loving /ever/ to grind out and thus bar progress on unlocking the elite, mob density is ridiculous, so many things are way overtuned (why yes I love being 1-shot constantly in a zone with only 1 active WP at any given point) and... I'm not happy. Okay thanks for listening.
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Has anyone come across an item called "badge of tribute" yet? The tooltip says you get them from a vendor in the guild hall's war room, but you need them to build said war room.
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Ciaphas posted:I kinda wanna pick up Guardian, I think. I've got kind of an irrational love of your holy/Cleric smite-mine-enemies-with-the-power-of-the-Lord-GOD types. (ed: though I guess going Dragonhunter kind of loses some of that aesthetic, maybe? I dunno how any of that works Dragonhunter keeps the Guardian aesthetic pretty well, but it's more of a Celestial Hunter (not as Celestial as Druid, of course).
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Welp someone made it to the end of HoT already. video type="youtube"]aOCK61tEQnk[/video]
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I feel like by merely being a few days late for the xpack I'm going to have issues with hero point challenges =/ e: not to mention my casual playtime, I'm really feeling hosed here
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Oct 25, 2015 06:50
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I see one of the expansion purchase options has an additional character slot. How much are those on their own? Thinking about jumping in. (edit) CLAM DOWN posted:I feel like by merely being a few days late for the xpack I'm going to have issues with hero point challenges =/ Er... hm, maybe nevermind
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Ciaphas posted:I see one of the expansion purchase options has an additional character slot. How much are those on their own? Thinking about jumping in. Well keep in mind I haven't played it yet as I've been traveling, but solely based on everything posted in this thread I'm feeling like I'm hosed as a casual player. My only hope is that Anet reverses this stupid rear end poo poo.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Well keep in mind I haven't played it yet as I've been traveling, but solely based on everything posted in this thread I'm feeling like I'm hosed as a casual player. My only hope is that Anet reverses this stupid rear end poo poo. it's the same GW2 experience you've always known. parts of it are really good and parts of it are really dumb poo poo
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CLAM DOWN posted:I feel like by merely being a few days late for the xpack I'm going to have issues with hero point challenges =/ People are burning down the forums over elite spec gating. They'll probably fix it within the next week or so. I feel that 200 points to unlock with HoT challenges being worth 2-5 points each and involving vets instead of champs would have been reasonable. 400 is retarded and you need 3-5 people for about half of the drat challenges.
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https://twitter.com/Shazbawt/status/658092329962573824quote:Central Tyria Masteries were designed with older content in mind, how quickly you level and obtain those masteries is your choice. that's Chris Cleary, for all you farmers
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Kessel posted:it's the same GW2 experience you've always known. parts of it are really good and parts of it are really dumb poo poo I know, I'm just bummed about not being able to play dragonhunter for quite some time now it seems and I'm stuck with the same loving specs I've been playing for 3 years, now it feels like I'm going to have issues doing hero challenges because I'm behind. Sucks man Agent Kool-Aid posted:there's genuinely no way they won't change something or other Hope you're right!
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