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Chill la Chill posted:Yeah. I mean I know it's a science fantasy hero's journey but I really would like that sort of take on it too. I mean, sucks to be that guy whose serving aboard the Death Star, home planet was Alderaan, and was two weeks away from retirement at Yavin. Yeah, I don't think it's really something the movies need to go into since they're just fun good vs. evil family adventures but I think a really good book series could be written about that kind of thing. How was that Tarkin novel? I read the Kindle sample and it didn't seem too bad. Is that the only Star Wars thing from an Imperial perspective?
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Xenomrph posted:Starfighters of Adumar, aka The Best X-wing Novel. Yes, the one entirely about Wedge, Tycho, Wes, and... Hobbie? bro-ing out on some random planet. A fun read. Wes is one of those guys who's onscreen once and gets a detailed backstory, but he owns because the Wraith Squadron books basically made him Wedge's Andy Richter.
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Tender Bender posted:Yes, the one entirely about Wedge, Tycho, Wes, and... Hobbie? bro-ing out on some random planet. A fun read. Pretty much. Wes and Hobbie both shone in that book, I always like relatively minor characters getting a big part. When they're actually written well.
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Allston could also write good dramatic moments, especially with the comic characters. See Wes talking about his first kill or Phannan's death.
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How is the gbs star wars thread more postive then the CD one?
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mr.capps posted:How is the gbs star wars thread more postive then the CD one? that's impossible cd argues that the prequels are good.
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yeah but that makes everyone so angry over there that it then becomes really negative again
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the really funny thing is that all the things people say in that thread about the prequel movies are mostly true, but they don't make them good like batman and robin is dripping with subtext, that doesn't mean its good
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they not only argue the prequels are good but that anyone who does not see this is pleb
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Acne Rain posted:they not only argue the prequels are good but that anyone who does not see this is pleb burn down CD
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but i like the trailer and movie poster threads!
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CD is the place to be if you are a first-year liberal arts major that has discovered that subtext exists and you can grade everything on how socialist it is when you squint. Bonus points if you can point out that the treatment of women is problematic. Note that most non-blockbusters do not even get threads anymore.
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mr.capps posted:the really funny thing is that all the things people say in that thread about the prequel movies are mostly true, but they don't make them good yeah like even if i agree with all the subtextual readings they're still failures in very basic filmmaking ways and also in consistency with the original movies.
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Xenomrph posted:Starfighters of Adumar, aka The Best X-wing Novel. "Tell me we aren't going to wear women's clothing Wedge." "Very well, we're not going to wear women's clothing" (next chapter) "You lied to me." RIP Allston.
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mr.capps posted:How is the gbs star wars thread more postive then the CD one? The CineD thread is in CineD, hence the problem.
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Xenomrph posted:Because we're all cool people who are more interested in having a good time and laughing about retarded poo poo.
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And we masturbate to Jar Jar. Imagine what he can do with that tongue of his.
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Cross posting this from the Alien thread in CineD because it's applicableXenomrph posted:Lets take a brief moment and talk about fandom. This is probably applicable in pretty much any pop culture thread, but I'm posting it here because I have a lot of exposure to Alien fandom, and because I just got to see some of the worst of it on a message board I frequent. tl;dr - fandoms can be awful, water is wet, the sun is bright, etc
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Xenomrph posted:Cross posting this from the Alien thread in CineD because it's applicable i didnt even know there was "canon" to the alien universe.(outside the movies) I always assumed it was like this. 1. super secret WY project and or random rear end in a top hat billionare and or the space goverment to make xeno do things. 2. it fails. 3. repeat step 1. 4. insert predator for mixed results.
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Xenomrph posted:Cross posting this from the Alien thread in CineD because it's applicable i think the problem with fandoms is that it's the reason we got a lot of the bad stuff in the prequels and they're going to run stars wars into the ground because of them. plus they tend to just have a hard on for the superficial aspects of the media they consume as opposed to the actual reasons most of this stuff has staying power. i mean people cheered during the insanely lovely duels in episode 3 when i saw it. it was like being the only sane person in the nuthouse. poo poo i think they cheered in that awful video game level scene with the stamping machines in 2 when the really bad cgi R2 used his rockets to his escape.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i didnt even know there was "canon" to the alien universe.(outside the movies) It comes down to philosophy and ideology about "canon". I like including as many sources as possible, and I handwave minor inconsistencies as being unimportant for the larger picture. I call it "fuzzy continuity". It's the kind of approach the Mad Max series takes, and Warhammer40k. It lets me enjoy stories on their own without getting hung up on some minor detail the author flubbed or slipped past FOX editorial. And you'd better believe that sort of approach pisses off ultranerds who fixate on "continuity" above all else.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i think the problem with fandoms is that it's the reason we got a lot of the bad stuff in the prequels and they're going to run stars wars into the ground because of them. plus they tend to just have a hard on for the superficial aspects of the media they consume as opposed to the actual reasons most of this stuff has staying power. Yeah I hate it cuz I used to do Kenjutsu and loved the original trilogy duels since they were just like that and had a feeling of dread and desperation about them. Jedi are some mix of archetypes, including space samurai, after all. I always forget about the video game sequence cuz I usually go to the bathroom at that part if I ever end up watching it. A lot of my apprehensions about stuff like boba Fett is cuz of dumb fan service stuff like that. I would hate for Luke to get some dumb super Saiyan force powers too. That stuff is what made the EU bad.
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I like liking things more than I like hating them. Star Wars is cool and good 
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That said karen Traviss can suck my dick from the back and stick to writing bad Warhammer /Gestapo fanfic forever
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Booblord Zagats posted:That said karen Traviss can suck my dick from the back and stick to writing bad Warhammer /Gestapo fanfic forever Details? I know she had a super batshit crazy meltdown...but I've also been told that her books are good up until to Order 66. Marshal Prolapse fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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gfanikf posted:Details? I know she had a super batshit crazy meltdown...but I've also been told that her books are good up until to Order 66. Karen Traviss literally never read a Starwar book that she herself did not write. She rebranded Mandolorians as peace-loving good folks who only fought as a last resort against the oppression of the Jedi and Sith, who to her are one power bloc of Nazi-like oppressors. She invented a whole language for the Mandos, even having characters speak and think in it who would seem to have no reason to and would be native Basic speakers (Luke Skywalker, all the Solo family). In otherwise unrelated books she will come up with an excuse to shoehorn in how great Mandalorians, Mandalorian culture, Mandalorian Iron (stops lightsabers!) and poo poo is. Also Bobba Fett has killed more Jedi than anyone else, because that's what Mandalorians do. It goes way beyond "interesting spin on an underdeveloped corner of the fiction" and into "creating a ridiculously over the top Mary Sue faction." Anyone who disagrees with her Fett-ish she'd shriek at and dismiss as a "Talifan."
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Just flat out remove the whole concept of Mandalorians from Star Wars. That skull is just a brand sticker that Boba stuck on his armour as a kid that he can't get off
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Improbable Lobster posted:Just flat out remove the whole concept of Mandalorians from Star Wars. That skull is just a brand sticker that Boba stuck on his armour as a kid that he can't get off it reads "bush-cheney 2004" in mandolorian.
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gfanikf posted:Details? I know she had a super batshit crazy meltdown...but I've also been told that her books are good up until to Order 66. Like I have no huge love for Jedi and feel the EU fixates on them a bit too much, and I loving love the Republic Commando video game and I wish we'd gotten a sequel, but Traviss's incessant Jedi bashing and fellating Mandalorian "culture" at the expense of telling a good, fun, coherent story was too much even for me. Like I get it when an author has a pet project, and Traviss made it her goal to develop the Mandalorian culture and history. That's cool and everything, but when you start undermining other people's story lines and bashing their work within your own books, it gets pretty grating. Her colossal public meltdown when the Clone Wars cartoon (rightfully) threw her Mandalorian stuff in the garbage was some of the best schadenfreude I'd seen in years. And she had the gall (or lack of self-awareness) to moan about someone else undermining her work, when she'd been doing the exact same things for years in her own books. I'm amazed it took as long as it did for someone to rein her in. Oh and I'll never forgive her for killing off Mara Jade.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i think the problem with fandoms is that it's the reason we got a lot of the bad stuff in the prequels and they're going to run stars wars into the ground because of them. plus they tend to just have a hard on for the superficial aspects of the media they consume as opposed to the actual reasons most of this stuff has staying power. I don't think fandom is why the prequels had those things though, it's because Lucas is insane and had tons of bad ideas no one shot down. Unless your argument is that fans shouldn't have paid money to see episode I and then Lucas would've learned his lesson and rethought his approach to episode II which is pretty doubtful.
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remember when star wars episode I: the phantom menace was re-released in 3d
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Fojar38 posted:remember when star wars episode I: the phantom menace was re-released in 3d weren't they planning to do them all and it tanked so hard they didn't bother?
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Otisburg posted:weren't they planning to do them all and it tanked so hard they didn't bother? to this day i have no loving idea what they were thinking
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The worst part about Traviss is when she decided that the only way for han's daughter to kill her brother that had gone sith was to have her train with Boba loving Fett for the better part of two books because only a MANDO'A can take down a sith. I mean, her uncle is only luke goddamn skywalker, but only boba fett can teach her how to follow a ship and get pushed into vagina dentata by a blind man. That whole series of books was wet garbage, but reading Traviss's contribution was like finding a dirty diaper while you're at it.
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In the same stupid series (which deals with another giant war and Han's boy going dark), Traviss also spent most of another book on Boba Fett's daughter dealing with daddy issues and the two of them searching for Boba's long lost love who is frozen in carbonite, but he really loved her this entire time, like hella for reals bae
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boba fett is a stupid character that only dumb fanboys love, hth
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Big Mean Jerk posted:In the same stupid series (which deals with another giant war and Han's boy going dark), Traviss also spent most of another book on Boba Fett's daughter dealing with daddy issues and the two of them searching for Boba's long lost love who is frozen in carbonite, but he really loved her this entire time, like hella for reals bae lol he shows up in his loving armor even in ghostly flashbacks
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Big Mean Jerk posted:In the same stupid series (which deals with another giant war and Han's boy going dark), Traviss also spent most of another book on Boba Fett's daughter dealing with daddy issues and the two of them searching for Boba's long lost love who is frozen in carbonite, but he really loved her this entire time, like hella for reals bae the strained smile says "god DAMNIT he won't even take the stupid helmet off for family holo-pictures. in my twenties i thought this whole 'masked bounty hunter' thing was mysterious and cool. what a fool i was. i should have married a space accountant."
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Chill la Chill posted:They should go with a slightly repainted armor and use the Jodo Kast copycat story. I could see a new "Fett" being cool but I lol at thinking the original was in any way competent. All he really did was wait to see where the falcon was hiding when it disappeared from the sonar. the only person he killed was himself he looks cool though
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