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gonadic io posted:Does Clojure have static type checking yet? you can do type annotations and it can use those to statically determine types in your program, and you can make the compiler warn anytime it has to use reflection to resolve a call so not really, but close
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Barnyard Protein posted:"poo poo" made it out in the comments of one of our public source releases, now we run source files through a filter when doing a release. we have a text file full of all the most heinous, dirtiest cuss words. Oh my god an adult programmer cussed in an obscure technical document, the good name of oracle/microsoft/google/corporate behemoth is now tarnished forever 
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Oct 25, 2015 23:43
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Eh, Ive seen checked in and deployed code that had a 400 response come back with "gently caress you" in the body. I guess some developers need rules. :P
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555 pages of poo poo -everyone's commit history
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triple sulk posted:555 pages of poo poo I have a lot of commit messages in personal repos that are some variant of "some poo poo that doesn't work or maybe even compile" as the head of a branch
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Dessert Rose posted:I have a lot of commit messages in personal repos that are some variant of "some poo poo that doesn't work or maybe even compile" as the head of a branch i have something like this in my bashrc: code:
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I have plenty of commit messages that are many times longer than the commit itself. E: found an example
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CommunistPancake posted:you can use clojure if you're ok with a lisp clojure is untyped
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gonadic io posted:Scala doesn't have operator soup as long as you don't use scalaz scalaz has abandoned operator soup
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im the deploy from sotoyamashita
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Jabor posted:im the deploy from sotoyamashita loving SPICY HALF-DONE RAINCOAT MEMES
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Soricidus posted:but grapes and what i guess is probably oden don't have an is-a relationship with poo? it makes no sense it's dango not oden
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Dessert Rose posted:you can do type annotations and it can use those to statically determine types in your program, and you can make the compiler warn anytime it has to use reflection to resolve a call as a known Lisp Liker, what do you think about clojure in general?
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MononcQc posted:I have plenty of commit messages that are many times longer than the commit itself. E: found an example i used to write at most a paragraph but then somebody at work used a message with bullet points. while that particular commit was garbage because it was too much, it clicked and i realized i could just write as much as I needed now some of my commit messages have example code in them
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Brain Candy posted:i used to write at most a paragraph but then somebody at work used a message with bullet points. while that particular commit was garbage because it was too much, it clicked and i realized i could just write as much as I needed While our commit messages aren't particularly detailed (because we mostly use SVN for just undoing our own fuckups during development), we have what is essentially an external project management tool that we maintain in house in which we track and document what we're developing. There's a bunch of different types of notes (such as an end-user description of changes, QA instructions, etc) in the "ticket" you use to track a particular bit of development (you can probably think of these tickets similarly to a branch in a less mumpsy setting). It's long since become the culture around here that only scrubs leave less than 2 pages of documentation. Ideally, somebody should be able to read your notes and know not only what you did and how it works, but how it fits into the larger software, what the motivations for the change were, anticipated pitfalls of your approach, and any background research that would be needed to understand all of the above. Basically, if you can't write all that down in clear language, chances are you haven't thought through the problem enough to be writing code anyway.
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I am currently marveling at the fact that the css I wrote is working. amazing.
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Shaggar posted:I am currently marveling at the fact that the css I wrote is working. amazing. yeah i feel that way every day
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I like how everyone has admitted that Microsoft was right about the box-model but you still have to set it up in css every time. thanks web "standards" retards.
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Shaggar posted:I like how everyone has admitted that Microsoft was right about the box-model ajax too i'm glad i skipped web dev between dhtml and html5 - everyone is now using the ie box model. people aren't using floats. - people use tables, but with different tags for table rows and columns now: div/span - you can set different table layouts with responsive queries - i hear flexbox is nice and apparently rendering html before sending it to the browser is back in fashion
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:css is truly the worst browsers too. they had all of this nice stuff in css planned out but it turns out that actually implementing the mechanics of css took forever read the thesis some time it's kinda interesting and cranky http://people.opera.com/howcome/2006/phd/
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tef posted:ajax too slowkit and failfox are responsible for the terrible state of the web because they picked bad standards and everyone supported them
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Brain Candy posted:as a known Lisp Liker, what do you think about clojure in general? it solves one of the main practical problems with lisps, i.e. you have to invent your own wheels for everything. because it runs on the jvm you get the benefit of all the Java libraries that already exist. your work is reduced to writing a lispy wrapper around them the concurrency model is really cool and makes a lot of sense. rich is a super smart dude and has a lot of fantastic ideas about the language, and knows when to trade purity / power for pragmatism; hence the existence of alternate sigils to describe vectors or maps, and his stance on user defined reader macros the tooling is improving by leaps and bounds, cider is really shaping up, they have actual debugging support a la edebug in the latest builds (it isn't all the way there yet but the dude making it has feature parity with edebug as his goal) and just in general I find that the integration with emacs is really solid already. my only real complaint is still startup time, which is gross and makes it hard to use for small scripts. it's fine if they run in the background because you won't notice but like a shell command having a start time measured in seconds is clearly not optimal. there are a lot of hacks around this but they are even more gross than the startup time
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Dessert Rose posted:it solves one of the main practical problems with lisps, i.e. you have to invent your own wheels for everything. because it runs on the jvm you get the benefit of all the Java libraries that already exist. your work is reduced to writing a lispy wrapper around them this is why i gave up on getting much done in common lisp, even though i like the language a lot. quote:the tooling is improving by leaps and bounds, cider is really shaping up, they have actual debugging support a la edebug in the latest builds (it isn't all the way there yet but the dude making it has feature parity with edebug as his goal) and just in general I find that the integration with emacs is really solid already. did lighttable ever turn into anything viable? it always looked really cool but never as usable as cider.
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don't really see the need for light table given Atom has basically the same niche locked down.
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that niche being garbage editor built on a dumpster stack.
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Hell yeah payday
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rrrrrrrrrrrt posted:that niche being garbage editor built on a dumpster stack. i also use a jetbrains product.
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Valeyard posted:Hell yeah payday nice when you get to the place I am in life, payday doesn't matter. money gets siphoned out of your account at such a constant and huge rate im equally poor every day of the week
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jony neuemonic posted:
idk I keep looking at it and not seeing anything that emacs+paredit+cider doesn't get me. but then the only time I edit code outside emacs is when I want something I can only get from an ide like Xcode/vs (or more accurately something I'm too lazy to get working in emacs) like yeah the playground-esque thing looks cool, but when I can just hit a key chord and get the current expression's result in the repl window, that's really all I want anyway
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Stringent posted:it's dango not oden are you sure? the glyph in the image looks like U+1F362 ODEN to me, not U+1F361 DANGO
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Soricidus posted:are you sure? the glyph in the image looks like U+1F362 ODEN to me, not U+1F361 DANGO valid question. also gently caress you nerd
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if it makes you feel any better, and it shouldn't, it was an oden, but now that I see it a dango would have been a better fit for bear poop
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pepito sanchez posted:valid question. also gently caress you nerd a yosposter nerdshaming another yosposter is like a dude who fucks chickens claiming to be better than a dude who fucks sheep
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naah it was more meant like a "oh you got him/me. interesting *sips java*" all is meant with a grain of love, even ye olde fu
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posting on the versatile timer page
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pepito sanchez posted:naah it was more meant like a "oh you got him/me. interesting *sips java*" ah ok, I'll get off my high horse and chill with some nice hot chocolate then
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Vanadium posted:web development is good b/c there's no good native gui frameworks out there and at least you have the excuse of well this is as much as the browser lets me do actually, wpf is perfect
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