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theultimo posted:Yeah it's all about the experience. yeah, also mgsv on ps4, and every game on consoles also holy poo poo Nasgate posted:I understand that everyone has their preferences, but the latter footage (destiny?) Is way more smooth and enjoyable. Vs the unnaturally snappy crap of Stalker. Might as well play quake for the millionth time. But neither of those have to do with the framerate. theultimo posted:Yeah it's all about the experience.
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Lurdiak posted:The FPS police is the stupidest poo poo to happen to video games. theultimo posted:It's what happens when the gaming community gets cancer
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Oct 27, 2015 19:55
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I'd like to see a Platinum game where it's entirely possible to complete it without any attacking input from you, the player. As in, you can still dodge and parry, and attack if you want, but every battle could be finished with deescalation. A diplomatic Platinum game. I would aim to pure platinum every chapter in that theoretical pacifist Platinum game.
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Oct 27, 2015 20:01
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Nasgate posted:I understand that everyone has their preferences, but the latter footage (destiny?) Is way more smooth and enjoyable. Vs the unnaturally snappy crap of Stalker. Might as well play quake for the millionth time. But neither of those have to do with the framerate. Where is the pop-in in that Stalker footage? There is an unrelated stutter when the scope is brought up the first time and that's all I really noticed  Smoth as butter tho. E: Okay I just watched the Halo 5 vid from a few pages ago and the pop-in is stupidly jarring. Keeping everything at their distant low quality is a better solution than that. wow. Mak0rz fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 20:06
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alsoa gin doing stupid res scaling tricks mean that when thtings get heavy, far away object including enemies can and will become basicaiklly impossible to track or see
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Oct 27, 2015 20:46
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program666 posted:yeah, also mgsv on ps4, and every game on consoles the lelvel of pop in in halo 5 is far beyodn anything elsle, its not just "lol consoloe"
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Oct 27, 2015 20:48
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precision posted:why is byuakuya fat now theres a reason but you dont find out for a while
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Not to mention the Animation of all things is less then 60fps. It's like stop motion.
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Stux posted:the lelvel of pop in in halo 5 is far beyodn anything elsle, its not just "lol consoloe"
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Oct 27, 2015 20:53
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program666 posted:it's just raw information, you don't need to be so defensive It's the fact that it's used as a pass/fail for games that's the problem.
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Oct 27, 2015 20:54
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Lurdiak posted:It's the fact that it's used as a pass/fail for games that's the problem. It is?
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Oct 27, 2015 20:55
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if a gmame running a t 30 fps is a point which makes a game unplayable to you, you're the one thah ts broken
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Oct 27, 2015 20:58
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program666 posted:It is? Steam is full of this I won't buy any game where the devs are clueless or lazy enough to intentionally limit their games framerate to 30 fps for no good reason and for no "benefit" other then to ♥♥♥♥ off the people who buy it and drive potential buyers away.
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Oct 27, 2015 20:59
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Lurdiak posted:The FPS police is the stupidest poo poo to happen to video games. Why is it bad to want 60fps, a level of quality regularly achieved on the first gen of 3D consoles 20 years ago.
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Oct 27, 2015 21:06
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Stux posted:if a gmame running a t 30 fps is a point which makes a game unplayable to you, you're the one thah ts broken Not unplayable but certainly a factor
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Oct 27, 2015 21:08
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In Training posted:Why is it bad to want 60fps, a level of quality regularly achieved on the first gen of 3D consoles 20 years ago. its bad ot declalre anything running at less than 60 fpos completely unplayable and acitng like it s some crime commited by devs also any console can achieve 60 fps on anything if u crank the graphcis down enough. except the vast majority of people a re happy with 30 fps outside of fighting games and games like cod, becuase 30 fps is not an issue.
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Oct 27, 2015 21:08
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program666 posted:Not unplayable but certainly a factor no
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Oct 27, 2015 21:09
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theultimo posted:Steam is full of this It's a good thing to push for better gaming but this guy is clueless
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Oct 27, 2015 21:10
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Well yeah I play plenty of 30fps games too. That makes sense
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Oct 27, 2015 21:11
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Mak0rz posted:Where is the pop-in in that Stalker footage? There is an unrelated stutter when the scope is brought up the first time and that's all I really noticed The unrealistic speed and terrible animating make the stalker clip hella jarring. At that point just get rid of the arms/animation and do the gun view old school fps do. If there's ever a OPM game there needs to be a "dream tutorial" and it needs to include a sale shopping minigame. But then you never get to play that minigame again.
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Oct 27, 2015 21:12
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Stux posted:its bad ot declalre anything running at less than 60 fpos completely unplayable and acitng like it s some crime commited by devs Preferring graphics over playability is foolishness
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Oct 27, 2015 21:12
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In Training posted:Well yeah I play plenty of 30fps games too. That makes sense the fps police is a literal group of people who decalre anything that runs at 30 fps as a rip off, unplayable and "cancer"
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Oct 27, 2015 21:13
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I can tell the difference if you put the same game running at 30 and 60 in front of me, but when I'm actually playing all I notice is if it's stable or not.
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Oct 27, 2015 21:14
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frame rates are everything, that's why ocarina of time is the worst game ever for being capped at 20 fps, and majoras mask is an even worse game
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Oct 27, 2015 21:14
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its almost like the internet has lots of retarded people
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Oct 27, 2015 21:15
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program666 posted:Preferring graphics over playability is foolishness not really. do i care if a jrpg or a singlepalyer based third person gmae is at 60 fps? lol no, pump those graphics up. do i car eif cod or streeet fighter is 60fps? hell yes theyre both fast paced and based on tight inputs and they are deved to a 60 fps target according ly.
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Instant Sunrise posted:frame rates are everything, that's why ocarina of time is the worst game ever for being capped at 20 fps, and majoras mask is an even worse game tbf the 3DS version of OOT looks way smoother since it runs at a stable 30
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35 fps is enough for anybody
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Stux posted:the fps police is a literal group of people who decalre anything that runs at 30 fps as a rip off, unplayable and "cancer" yeah they've got games from 20 years ago on their do not buy list. i forget the examples but they're mad about some really seminal games from the 90's 00's being 30fps on pc.
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Oct 27, 2015 21:17
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I just discovered in the last couple of weeks how much Spelunky loving owns. Are there any other rogue-lite or whatever games that own this hard?
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Oct 27, 2015 21:19
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Motto posted:I can tell the difference if you put the same game running at 30 and 60 in front of me, but when I'm actually playing all I notice is if it's stable or not.
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Stux posted:the fps police is a literal group of people who decalre anything that runs at 30 fps as a rip off, unplayable and "cancer" I wanna link to the manifesto : p
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Adam Bowen posted:I just discovered in the last couple of weeks how much Spelunky loving owns. Are there any other rogue-lite or whatever games that own this hard? rogue legacy, maybe binding of issacc based on ur tolerance for dumbness
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Oct 27, 2015 21:21
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Real hurthling! posted:yeah they've got games from 20 years ago on their do not buy list. i forget the examples but they're mad about some really seminal games from the 90's 00's being 30fps on pc. There is a do not buy list?
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Oct 27, 2015 21:24
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I'm a big fan of Isaac but I really hate the aesthetic. I still have like 100 hours in it though, really great game and there's an expansion coming out in 2 days.
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Binding of Isaac is pretty good but I am still mad that I paid for the janky original version and then they expect $15 more for the improved one.
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Adam Bowen posted:I just discovered in the last couple of weeks how much Spelunky loving owns. Are there any other rogue-lite or whatever games that own this hard? binding of issac, rogue legacy, crypt of the necrodancer, galak z, are all good to very good. only rogue legacy is an action platformer like spelunky though and spelunky is way better platformer than it. (RL's draw is upgrading your family's resources to get stronger but has some slow and basic play mechanics when you go on a run) Real hurthling! fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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program666 posted:There is a do not buy list? yeah the FPS police is a real thing and serves as a steam "do not buy" list.
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Real hurthling! posted:yeah the FPS police is a real thing and servers as a steam "do not buy" list. I don't think it does bro, where the hell do you get this idea?
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Real hurthling! posted:yeah the FPS police is a real thing and serves as a steam "do not buy" list. To be specific, it's a curator page called The Framerate Police. (Would link but mobile steam) Here's a good comment. "for example, red alert 3 is 30fps in game, but the mouse cursor is 60, so playability hasnt been destroyed"
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