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Apollodorus posted:Yes, much better if he declared himself a proud Scotsman like Sean Maitland. e: or the guy in my avatar I suppose. It's mostly that he's a gloryhunter and literally gives no fucks about NZ other than their rugby team.
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Well, I know that type all too well...see my earlier comments about my teammate who's set on sending his son to school in NZ. He's more of a kiwiaboo, though, I guess.
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Oct 26, 2015 02:46
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Apollodorus posted:Well, I know that type all too well...see my earlier comments about my teammate who's set on sending his son to school in NZ. Oh god is this a thing? Please tell me more.
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Oct 26, 2015 03:14
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NZAmoeba posted:Oh god is this a thing? Please tell me more. Among American rugby players it is.
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Oct 26, 2015 11:32
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Scapegoat posted:I've got that under control, "Hey didn't Japan score more points against the Boks than you?" shut them up Why would anyone care about that?
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Oct 26, 2015 12:18
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ColtMcAsskick posted:
They'll really have to get their poo poo together to be competitive. They blew opportunities to score where the ABs would have scored.
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Oct 26, 2015 13:16
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Mr Chips posted:They'll really have to get their poo poo together to be competitive. They blew opportunities to score where the ABs would have scored. The biggest issue they're going to have is that Pocock has been dominating the breakdown preventing quick ball and generating turnovers. He's going to find that a lot harder against the New Zealand. I think that's where the game will be won and lost, the battle between Pocock and McCaw.
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Oct 26, 2015 13:38
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Aramoro posted:The biggest issue they're going to have is that Pocock has been dominating the breakdown preventing quick ball and generating turnovers. He's going to find that a lot harder against the New Zealand. I think that's where the game will be won and lost, the battle between Pocock and McCaw. Yes, watching the game this morning while half-asleep I noticed Pocock getting about 3-4 turnovers at least. As a New Zealander (and hence an ABs fan), I find this quite a threat. People seem to be underestimating Australia somewhat, whereas I think it could be quite close.
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ZakAce posted:So the Wallabies and the All Blacks are both in the finals. Unfortunately, I'm a Kiwi (if you couldn't tell by my avatar) and I'm going to be in Melbourne next weekend. Don't worry, people in Melbourne will be more concerned about the Aussie rules draft than this game
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Anyone got this Richie McCaw vine that is doing the rounds? Im assuming its a storm in a tea cup but im having post end of tournament withdrawls so anything remotely interesting will do the trick. EDIT: Got it, http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/73361325/all-blacks-skipper-richie-mccaw-could-miss-rugby-world-cup-final-if-cited-over-elbow looks kinda like a clip from my POV but he wont get cited so whatever. hitchensgoespop fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Oct 26, 2015 19:15
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Nigel reffing the final with Garces and Barnes as assistants. Glad Nigel got the nod. The final should be tasty, I've been really impressed by the whole aussie back row, Pocock has been outstanding but Fardy and Hooper have been quietly dominant as well. Saying that they're up against the best 7 ever so I can't help but get a little excited about how it'll go in a World Cup final.
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hitchensgoespop posted:Anyone got this Richie McCaw vine that is doing the rounds? I'm falling on the side of that being an accident, either way I doubt he'll be cited. It's his last RWC let him play, it would be a poorer final without him there.
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SomeDrunkenMick posted:I'm falling on the side of that being an accident, either way I doubt he'll be cited. It's his last RWC let him play, it would be a poorer final without him there. Agreed. I don't think it's wholly accidental but its small potatoes and it would spoil the final a bit of he wasn't playing.
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Citings need to happen within 24 hours of the end of the match. Plus, there's gently caress all in it.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:28
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There was no elbow. If you watch the footage its clear that the only contact is of McCaws upper leg brushing Louws shoulder.
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Meanwhile in America: http://blog.ridnell.com/2015/10/24/usa-rugby-change-of-leadership-is-a-mandate-from-the-american-rugby-community/ The spelling is atrocious but the points are valid. Also I had no idea Glasgow had an American at any high level. Because USAR don't give a poo poo apparently.
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HappyCamperGL posted:There was no elbow. If you watch the footage its clear that the only contact is of McCaws upper leg brushing Louws shoulder. Yeah, there was nothing in it at all though McCaw would have to literally kick a man to death on the pitch to get stopped from going to his last RWC final by the citing commission, his crowd draw and what it means for him and rugby in general is that big. Vaders Jester fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 03:11
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Living overseas this year has really opened up my eyes as to just how much people hate McCaw. Not looking forward to probably being outnumbered by Aussies when I watch the game this weekend.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Living overseas this year has really opened up my eyes as to just how much people hate McCaw. Not looking forward to probably being outnumbered by Aussies when I watch the game this weekend. I can understand why New Zealanders love him, but I remember there being a minor shitstorm about George Smith playing the ball of his feet... AND THATS WHAT RICHIE MCCAW DOES HE JUST NEVER GETS CAUGHT (he does other things that are on the boundary, like his "never" being offside and all that). For real though, probably the best Flanker of all time and one of the best leaders of all time. A legend of the highest calibre. Just wish he pulled on the Green and Gold instead of the Black and... er... black.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:Living overseas this year has really opened up my eyes as to just how much people hate McCaw. Not looking forward to probably being outnumbered by Aussies when I watch the game this weekend. I cheered for Neil Back. There's truly only so worked up I can get over McCaw. Could almost believe that Pocock will outplay him at the weekend through, he's been sensational pretty much every game.
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I quite like Richie. He's a cheating shitheel who gets away with murder at the breakdown, but so are all top quality back row players. He's just better at getting away with it. Constantly chatting at the ref, thinking "Ref, look I can legally do this right? Yes, ok, so now stop looking at me so I can do something completely illegal instead."
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goatface posted:I quite like Richie. He's a cheating shitheel who gets away with murder at the breakdown, but so are all top quality back row players. This is it exactly, getting away with it is literally his job. I don't have to like mcaw, in that he's one of the best players on one of the best test teams of all time it makes him hard to like in a way but I do respect him as a player for the things he's done.
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One interesting thing about McCaw’s playing style is that when he wears red and black colours he cheats all the time; he plays off his feet, grabs ball he isn’t entitled to, and is constantly offside. When he wears the black jersey he is transformed into a great player who is unfairly penalised because the refs can’t comprehend his speed and skill at the breakdown. I am not the only New Zealander who has noticed this.
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The thing about McCaw is, his cheating is not dangerous. He doesn't gouge eyes or take cheap shots, he just reaches for the ball when he's not allowed to. That's it. And if the ref doesn't see it, well, that's not Richie's fault. e: Richie McCaw the referee would be AMAZING. Apollodorus fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Well, he sometimes sticks his leg out, and plays some of the many scrummaging games, and sometimes dicks around in an offside position while lazy defending. He's just better than anyone else at picking his moments and looking innocent.
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McCaw is a cheating oval office, but I wish he was our cheating oval office.
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rejutka posted:So, who's gonna take over from McCaw when he retires? Sam Cane is the heir apparent, while Matt Todd and Ardie Savea are hanging about.
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Unimpressed posted:McCaw is a cheating oval office, but I wish he was our cheating oval office. Australian Rugby fans think like this. Australians who occasionally watch the Wallabies just focus on the first part. There aren't really many Australian Rugby fans.
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McCaw's greatest skill is persuading the referee to let him manage the match. Even if it's as small a thing as having the referee spend an extra 5-10s explaining some blatant violation of the rules he's just committed allowing his own team to get back into position or spreading doubt into a match official's mind, McCaw regularly ends up having a major influence on the ebb and flow of the game even if he's not having a particularly great match himself. Pocock, Brüssow are in my opinon, (and Warburton and Dusautoir have possibly been), better at effecting turnovers over the last few years, but none of them come close to being able to get referees to listen them, never mind respond kindly. But I actually think this game gets won and lost by the centres more so than the forwards. NZ have shown during the tournament that they don't necessarily need fast ball, and Nonu's running has been a big part of that. Australia need to be able to deal with him. Kuridrani will be trying to provide the same service for the Wobs, but he's also a potential weak link in defence, he does miss the occasional tackle (on both outside and inside) and he's not the organiser C. Smith is.
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He used to not do this, but being on the wrong end of the 2007 quarterfinal in Cardiff changed his mentality on the matter. Really though, all captains worth a drat should do what he does.
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Not liking McCaw is ridiculous. He's one of the all time greats. I mean, I watch him like a hawk and get frustrated when he does something cheeky but props to him for doing it consistently well.
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ColtMcAsskick posted:Not liking McCaw is ridiculous. He's one of the all time greats. I mean, I watch him like a hawk and get frustrated when he does something cheeky but props to him for doing it consistently well. Problem is I'm almost always watching him when he's playing against us. Hard to like him then.
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Unimpressed posted:Problem is I'm almost always watching him when he's playing against us. Hard to like him then. It's the same with Super Rugby and the ITM stuff when he played, although if he had a good game it gave you some optimism for the All Blacks.
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With the final being at 3am Australian Eastern time, and 5am NZ time, who exactly is this final the ideal time zone for? It seems strange they're not doing it at 8pm local time same as the Bronze Final.
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I don't support the Crusaders _at all_, and McCaw never frustrates me that much. Good play is good play, and he doesn't take the fetcher role much anymore anyway. Part of the perception problem is terrible tabloids publishing obvious nonsense like the elbow farce, but also the fact that the rugby laws in general are not well understood by casual fans. e.g. there is no offside line at a tackle (before the ruck is formed). He's a also genius at working out refs tolerances. e.g. a tackled player must release the ball immediately, the tackler must release the player immediately, a player at a tackle must stop using his hands immediately once it becomes a ruck, similarly a player attacking the ball at a tackle must get out of the way immediately once a ruck has formed if that puts him offside, a player attacking the ball at a tackle must stop it immediately if he stops supporting his own body weight, etc, etc. However, for each ref in each situation immediately means something different and could be anything between instantly, or up to 5+ seconds later. McCaw is great at working out exactly what the refs tolerances are at each situation, and working within those bounds - better than any other player I've seen.
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The Clit Avoider posted:But I actually think this game gets won and lost by the centres more so than the forwards. NZ have shown during the tournament that they don't necessarily need fast ball, and Nonu's running has been a big part of that. While this has been the case, it's a World Cup grand final. Unless there are some major line breaks in the first 10 minutes, the entire match is likely to be a forward-pack grind for kickable penalties.
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