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Junkyard Poodle posted:What episode will Fat Damon snap? Well the lesbian hairdresser saw the hole in the windshield, doncha know. She's gonna be a problem. Mary Jane might need to call in her paladin when said hairdresser is cornered and alone at that seminar. This show is really great. Looking forward to whatever the hell the UFO thing is building up to.
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Anybody else catch in the second episode when Dunst was looking in the garage about 55 minutes in the song playing in the background? "Kansas City".
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Oct 27, 2015 16:01
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clown shoes posted:I wonder if Dunst's hit and run was inspired by an actual event in Texas back in 2001. It's one of those stories that stays with you years later because it was so cruel and unusual. Whoever called her a monster was right on the money. Even more interesting (to me, anyway) is the real world UFO encounter by a state trooper in Minnesota in 1979. If you want to know where this UFO stuff is leading, that's probably a safe bet. I'm pretty sure the X-Files did an episode about that particular case as well. [edit] Sherrif Deputy, not State Trooper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Val_Johnson_incident
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Oct 27, 2015 18:00
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I thought for sure Fat Damon was gonna fall through the ice in the car and his wife would have to explain that scene.
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Oct 27, 2015 18:35
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I wonder if Ted Danson will say that he had an odd case back in the day and the next season will take place in the forties or fifties with young Ted Danson as the protagonist.
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Oct 27, 2015 19:01
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Wow, the UK broadcast just didn't have Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds at the end. Just the normal score instead.
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Lord Tywin posted:I wonder if Ted Danson will say that he had an odd case back in the day and the next season will take place in the forties or fifties with young Ted Danson as the protagonist. I would have no problem with season 10 of Fargo being set during the Civil War.
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Oct 27, 2015 22:48
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Jake Armitage posted:Even more interesting (to me, anyway) is the real world UFO encounter by a state trooper in Minnesota in 1979. If you want to know where this UFO stuff is leading, that's probably a safe bet. I'm pretty sure the X-Files did an episode about that particular case as well. More True Detective than True Detective.
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Oct 27, 2015 22:52
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The following shot is after Peggy nervously explains why she thinks Betty Solverson's hit and run theory theory is wrong - Someone has pieced things together.
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Oct 27, 2015 23:49
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Episode 3 had some moments where my suspension of belief became, uh, un-suspended. Kinda like some people were saying after episode 2. A few scenes seemed cartoony and overwrought, but not for much of any purpose. I didn't understand the point of the scene in the typewriter store with Lou and the prog rockers (lol). It establishes that the KC guys were poking around there, but other than that...? It didn't help that it had the awkwardest Mexican standoff ever, where all the gun dudes act like it's a super tense moment but then the resolution is "well OK I'll be going then..." "no we will be going then, heh owned  ".The blacktop scene was also kinda eye-rolly for me. Dodd is a macho jerk, yep. Oh now he's going to kill a dude in a creepy way, great. Maybe some elements of this will be important later but it seemed rather like the writers just pulled an example out the Crime Story Cliche paint-by-numbers book. e: I didn't think it was an awful episode, though. The lead-up to the standoff outside the Gerhardt estate was great. And the little shot of babby Molly watching TV 
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Oct 27, 2015 23:56
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Lutha Mahtin posted:The blacktop scene was also kinda eye-rolly for me. Dodd is a macho jerk, yep. Oh now he's going to kill a dude in a creepy way, great. Maybe some elements of this will be important later but it seemed rather like the writers just pulled an example out the Crime Story Cliche paint-by-numbers book. I think that scene was to further solidify that Dodd resolves any and all problems with violence (and cruel violence at that), as opposed to his mother (and even Bear!) who take a more nuanced, careful and accommodating approach. Dodd is shortsighted and demands immediacy in all his dealings, no subtlety or holding his cards close to his chest. I really dig how, despite looking like a giant lunkhead, Bear seems to have his head on straight and be a thoughtful, in some ways even progressive guy.
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It gave Milligan, a black dude in the seventies, a chance to exercise authority over a white cop. That's like seeing a unicorn gently caress a pegasus, a thing that just doesn't happen. Solverson is dead. He knows it, Mike knows it and the twins know it. Mike won't let him retreat, but he will give Solverson mercy because he chooses to. He dictates the conversation and controls the scene because he can.
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Jerusalem posted:I think that scene was to further solidify that Dodd resolves any and all problems with violence (and cruel violence at that), as opposed to his mother (and even Bear!) who take a more nuanced, careful and accommodating approach. Dodd is shortsighted and demands immediacy in all his dealings, no subtlety or holding his cards close to his chest. I don't know that they're going for this symbolism directly, but Dodd strikes me as a Sonny type from The Godfather. Hotheaded, all about brute force, doesn't pay mind to the consequences of violence. He's going to end up shot soon, I bet, just like Sonny did. Leave the gun, take the cannoli, don'cha know.
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Oct 28, 2015 00:30
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The scene let Solverson and Milligan meet. That's all it needed to be.
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Oct 28, 2015 00:35
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jfood posted:It gave Milligan, a black dude in the seventies, a chance to exercise authority over a white cop. That's like seeing a unicorn gently caress a pegasus, a thing that just doesn't happen. Yeah but he did this last episode too. Ugh, you're still probably right. quote:Solverson is dead. He knows it, Mike knows it and the twins know it. Thinking about this more, I think I was actually reading the scene all wrong (and I think you're wrong too). Milligan and crew aren't going to gun down Lou. They didn't do it when they got stopped by Hank out in the middle of nowhere, so they certainly aren't going to do it in downtown Fargo during business hours. Rather I think the scene is more about Lou's naivete. Unlike Hank, who keeps his cool, Lou immediately draws his gun and pretends that his badge means he's in control. This, despite him being wayyy out of his jurisdiction, and never dealing with anyone like these guys before.
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The Gerhardt Estate standoff was unbelievably tense. Great job showing the difference between small town cop and city cop who didn't have dealings with these folk. That post earlier ranting about the locations in the series really helped me out. I thought that a major crime syndicate setting up in a small town was just a surreal touch we were supposed to accept, and I thought all the locations were fairly close together. Makes more sense now.
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Oct 28, 2015 02:58
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Also, if anyone missed it, this week's reference to Fargo the film was Lou's theory early in the episode over the restaurant murders, "for a little bit of money."
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Oct 28, 2015 03:14
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Lutha Mahtin posted:Yeah but he did this last episode too. Ugh, you're still probably right. In the car stop with Larrson, Hank was in control. It's a bullshit stop and a petty injustice but one you know Milligan has lived through before, there's no need to force it into anything other than what it is. It will end when Larrson wants it to end and Milligan really can't see anything coming from it. You're absolutely correct that Mike wouldn't have ordered the Kitchen boys to kill Solverson. Killing a cop is the nuclear option and it's pointless, going against everything he's trying to accomplish. The Kitchen boys wouldn't go off mission with Milligan there either. But that no less makes Solverson a walking dead man in that scene, his life belongs to Mike. Because, like you say, he is naive and pretty loving far off the reservation. He walks into an unknown with a bad hand, then plays it poorly. Solverson puts himself in a bad way and Mike is just tickled to exploit it, but much like the car stop with Larrson he wouldn't force it. It's the wrong time to be that brazen. The red, the black, Mike spreading Kansas City's influence... makes me think of the Four Horsemen. Which would make Bulo the stand-in for Hunger. The mafia's all consuming desire to make it all their own, that slick corporate greed he brings. Plus, always eating or wanting to eat in every scene so far. Apropos of nothing.
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jfood posted:The red, the black, Mike spreading Kansas City's influence... makes me think of the Four Horsemen. Which would make Bulo the stand-in for Hunger. The mafia's all consuming desire to make it all their own, that slick corporate greed he brings. Plus, always eating or wanting to eat in every scene so far. Apropos of nothing. I think it's Famine, not Hunger, and it rides the black horse. I think food is a big part of the symbolism for this season, though. Bear is eating in every single appearance, except the time he was sharpening the axe. Rye is named for bread and Skip is named for peanut butter. The murders are in a diner, with the milkshake mixing with the blood. The recipes of the world. Ed the butcher. UFOs are getting a lot of attention, but food seems like the biggest thematic thoroughfare.
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I didn't realize that his name was actually "Rye" until this episode. I thought they were calling him "Ry" for "Ryan".
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Oct 28, 2015 08:25
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I'm hoping we haven't seen the last of Rye. Someone with ulterior motives could easily take advantage of his current status..
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MrBuddyLee posted:I'm hoping we haven't seen the last of Rye. Someone with ulterior motives could easily take advantage of his current status.. Rye on rye
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That would be sweet too, though I was more hoping that an alien that watched Rye's demise would shapeshift into his role for a scene or two. If not Rye, then Reagan for sure is an alien. Youbetcha.
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The tension during Lou's stand-off scenes was fantastic. I love how he can't keep his mouth shut. Patrick Wilson is doing a great job. For some reason the other scene that stuck with me was the shampoo scene. There is something very comical about these mob/hitmen guys worrying about shampoo quality and usability.
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Arkane posted:Well the lesbian hairdresser saw the hole in the windshield, doncha know. She's gonna be a problem. I thought Dunst calling him a paladin was a nice little touch to the dialogue. It made her come across as a person who learns a new word and tries to force it into the conversation, which seems to be exactly the type of person she is.
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Oct 28, 2015 13:03
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I personally appreciate every time someone uses the word paladin not in relation to fantasy.
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Oct 28, 2015 13:07
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Is that mcually caulkin???! *googles fargo mcaully caulkin* Brother of Mcaully Caulkin?  Well, guess that's another point for me in the "doesn't suffer from face blindness" tally
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Oct 28, 2015 14:41
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Anyone else catch that scene when they are on the bus and having a 'conversation' without talking? What was up with that?
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Oct 28, 2015 14:52
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Dirty Beluga posted:Anyone else catch that scene when they are on the bus and having a 'conversation' without talking? What was up with that? The magic of television. Editing.
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Oct 28, 2015 15:06
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The supernatural alien music played during that scene.
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Dirty Beluga posted:Anyone else catch that scene when they are on the bus and having a 'conversation' without talking? What was up with that? They already had the conversation earlier. They did not have it on the bus, in public, surrounded by people.
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Oct 28, 2015 15:28
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An interview with the creator. He also explains every goon's randomly favorite pet-peeve: split-screen. http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/the-andy-greenwald-podcast-fargo-showrunner-noah-hawley-2/
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Dirty Beluga posted:Anyone else catch that scene when they are on the bus and having a 'conversation' without talking? What was up with that? Fat Damon and Mary Jane are aliens who can communicate telepathically
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Dirty Beluga posted:Anyone else catch that scene when they are on the bus and having a 'conversation' without talking? What was up with that? You see this is in shows before it cuts away to the next scene where their mouths are moving but it did not seem to happen that time. It's kind of awkward I guess? It was insofar as I actively noticed it, which is probably not a good sign.
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Ehud posted:Fat Damon and Mary Jane are aliens who can communicate telepathically She's an alien who eats human burgers. He's a human being manipulated by her telepathy. edit: Oh and she also has some weird alien need for excessive toilet paper.
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Dirty Beluga posted:Anyone else catch that scene when they are on the bus and having a 'conversation' without talking? What was up with that? Im sure it was a conversation they had later out of public, so you could see their faces still trying to keep up appearances with what they were thinking.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Also, if anyone missed it, this week's reference to Fargo the film was Lou's theory early in the episode over the restaurant murders, "for a little bit of money." Also Bear's son talking about half a car.
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sout posted:You see this is in shows before it cuts away to the next scene where their mouths are moving but it did not seem to happen that time. I really liked that scene as an artsy thing the director thought of,, and in my mind they didn't actually have the dialogue at a different time. I think it was quite nicely done; the actors were playing out that dialogue with body language and looks.
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sout posted:You see this is in shows before it cuts away to the next scene where their mouths are moving but it did not seem to happen that time. I didn't personally find it to be awkward. It felt like real life moments where you have certain kinds of conversations with an SO or close friend, then you're just kind of left in contemplative silence because there's nothing else to say.
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I thought that scene was very well done.
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