Roumba posted:What the hell good is a radar/whatever system if it doesn't know where it is or can't communicate that information? Generally they're used as a way to do long term aerial surveillance over a particular piece of ground. They get a better view than ground based cameras and are able to say aloft for much longer than drones or manned aircraft. Not sure about what other capabilities they have, and it would probably be classified anyway. I do know that there was a rumor that after a helicopter accidentally severed the tether on one, the solution was to make the tether stronger. 
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Josh Lyman posted:Is Paul Ryan aping Franklin D. Roosevelt's name more transparent than Rick Perry wearing glasses? It's crazy, but his actual middle name does start with a D. If it's a put on, he's been playing the long game. Also if he's copying someone it's John D Rockefeller.
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Oct 28, 2015 20:11
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Josh Lyman posted:Is Paul Ryan aping Franklin D. Roosevelt's name more transparent than Rick Perry wearing glasses? If he appropriated the WPA I wouldn't mind
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I wonder what Hillary's excuse for supporting the death penalty will be in 10 years and if it was be as absurd as her excuses for DOMA, DADT or any of Bill's horrific crime policies...
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Oct 28, 2015 20:15
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zoux posted:It's crazy, but his actual middle name does start with a D. If it's a put on, he's been playing the long game.
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Oct 28, 2015 20:17
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mcmagic posted:I wonder what Hillary's excuse for supporting the death penalty in 10 years will be and if it was be as absurd as her excuses for DOMA, DADT or any of Bill's horrific crime policies... Ah yes the absurd excuse of "if I didn't I wouldn't have been elected." Seriously, the Republicans cheered the death penalty, you can't see why not dying on this cross might not have been worth it?
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Swagger Dagger posted:A giant unmanned surveillance blimp is on the loose: Add 2.7 billion dollars to another 10 billion, all from one sub-agency in the Pentagon. quote:Expensive missteps have become a trademark of the Missile Defense Agency, an arm of the Pentagon charged with protecting U.S. troops and ships and the American homeland. http://graphics.latimes.com/missile-defense/ That's a quarter of what we spend on the entire budget of the Department of Education.
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Fried Chicken posted:they aren't going up and you are a liar. That they may go up in the future is dependent on a huge unknowable set of factors and potential policy remedies, so saying "but it could be higher in the future" is incredibly loving dishonest; more so since by your own admission you didn't read the article. Maybe try posting a non-paywalled article next time?
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Trabisnikof posted:Ah yes the absurd excuse of "if I didn't I wouldn't have been elected." Seriously, the Republicans cheered the death penalty, you can't see why not dying on this cross might not have been worth it? Thats profound moral courage for ya.
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There's nothing more poisonous to a functioning government than a blind idealist.
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mcmagic posted:Thats profound moral courage for ya. Yes, I do prefer policy makers who can make policy rather than stand up for moral courage and do nothing.
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Oct 28, 2015 20:21
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mcmagic posted:Thats profound moral courage for ya. You know what you call brave politicians?
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Trabisnikof posted:Yes, I do prefer policy makers who can make policy rather than stand up for moral courage and do nothing. So she's lying and is really going to advocate ending the death penalty when she's elected?
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Oct 28, 2015 20:23
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If this isn't photoshopped it's a legit cool as hell photo of Ben Carson. Woah this is the best one. 
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Hollismason posted:If this isn't photoshopped it's a legit cool as hell photo of Ben Carson. That whole series is great. There's just something about high contrast B&W photos that really enhances the drama. Maybe it's just a cultural reaction based on old film noir.
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mcmagic posted:So she's lying and is really going to advocate ending the death penalty when she's elected? No. I bet there will be a vast number of progressive policies that Clinton wants but won't advocate for or enact because of the political costs involved. She, unlike some idealists, get the reality that you can't win them all.
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Trabisnikof posted:No. I bet there will be a vast number of progressive policies that Clinton wants but won't advocate for or enact because of the political costs involved. She, unlike some idealists, get the reality that you can't win them all. So she won't talk about it to try to change the tone of the debate in the US and she won't do anything to end it despite having the power to do a lot but that's OK because an internet poster thinks that she PROBABLY is good on the issue in private. Where do I sign up to vote for that?!
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mcmagic posted:So she's lying and is really going to advocate ending the death penalty when she's elected? Given that she's historically not been a particularly big fan of it, and was part of the impetus that resulted in SCOTUS cases ruling that execution of the mentally disabled is unconstitutional before Bill got into politics, she was almost certainly lying the last time she said she supported the death penalty ("unenthusiastically", fifteen years ago) and it's entirely possible she would work to limit or end it at the federal level, though I doubt it would be her highest priority.
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mcmagic posted:I wonder what Hillary's excuse for supporting the death penalty will be in 10 years and if it was be as absurd as her excuses for DOMA, DADT or any of Bill's horrific crime policies... Well, her position right now is "I support the death penalty but believe it should be limited to very rare, egregious cases", which honestly doesn't sound all that terrible to me. I dunno, maybe I'm missing something here 
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Hollismason posted:If Hillary wins then you can look forward to 4 years of nothing being done because the Republicans will stop at nothing to destroy her. I'd say they'd move for impeachment the very first year. A small price to pay for us to have the most pragmatic president in office, I'd say. When she's not being obstructed, she will fight for the things she will be most able to accomplish (literally nothing).
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Radbot posted:A small price to pay for us to have the most pragmatic president in office, I'd say. This is most definitely not true. The idea of pragmatism for its own sake is insane.
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Hollismason posted:If Hillary wins then you can look forward to 4 years of nothing being done because the Republicans will stop at nothing to destroy her. I'd say they'd move for impeachment the very first year. Are you honestly suggesting that Republicans will say, "Man, we'd hate Hillary and never work with her, but this guy who is an actual self-declared socialist, him we like and will compromise with"? Also, if Republicans impeach Hillary in her first two years, the Democrats win Congress back big-time in 2018, given the 1998 elections.
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DaveWoo posted:Well, her position right now is "I support the death penalty but believe it should be limited to very rare, egregious cases", which honestly doesn't sound all that terrible to me. I dunno, maybe I'm missing something here Considering how rarely the death penalty is enacted in this country, this statement is pretty meaningless. I don't know of a murder case where the crime couldn't be described as "egregious".
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Unzip and Attack posted:Considering how rarely the death penalty is enacted in this country, this statement is pretty meaningless. I don't know of a murder case where the crime couldn't be described as "egregious". I would guess the case of the guy who is getting executed because someone else confessed to the fact that he made him do it, kill him instead, and it worked.
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Hollismason posted:If Hillary wins then you can look forward to 4 years of nothing being done because the Republicans will stop at nothing to destroy her. I'd say they'd move for impeachment the very first year. See, I thought that in 2008, but then the exact same thing happened to Obama. It's the idea of a Democratic president, not any particular Democratic president.
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mcmagic posted:This is most definitely not true. The idea of pragmatism for its own sake is insane. And you can keep living in an idealistic world, but I'll take a pragamtic left of center/center/third way politician over the Republicans. Climate change, income inequality, education, housing and healthcare are big enough issues that yes, I'm willing to tolerate stagnation on some other issues e.g. ending the federal death penalty.
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Neremworld posted:I would guess the case of the guy who is getting executed because someone else confessed to the fact that he made him do it, kill him instead, and it worked. Was the crime he was convicted for a murder? It's almost like you're proving my point that her statement is bullshit and still leaves room for erroneous application of death sentences.
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DaveWoo posted:Well, her position right now is "I support the death penalty but believe it should be limited to very rare, egregious cases", which honestly doesn't sound all that terrible to me. I dunno, maybe I'm missing something here It's bad when the government kills people, especially bad when it kills people just to sate its bloodlust, especially especially bad when it often kills them in painful and cruel and unusual ways, and especially especially especially bad when it costs more to kill them than to keep them alive and when the death penalty doesn't act as a deterrent, meaning that there is literally no reason to kill these people other than that the government wants to watch them die.
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Hollismason posted:If Hillary wins then you can look forward to 4 years of nothing being done because the Republicans will stop at nothing to destroy her. I'd say they'd move for impeachment the very first year. A whole year? That's way too long to wait for impeachment  (PPP poll results of NC republicans)
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Trabisnikof posted:And you can keep living in an idealistic world, but I'll take a pragamtic left of center/center/third way politician over the Republicans. Climate change, income inequality, education, housing and healthcare are big enough issues that yes, I'm willing to tolerate stagnation on some other issues e.g. ending the federal death penalty. This sounds nice but it ignores the actual results of what happens when we get "pragmatic" policy solutions. Case in point was Biden's awful budget control act deal with Boner in 2013. What triumph's of pragmatic policy making as I supposed to point to from the Clinton era? mcmagic fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Oct 28, 2015 |
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Hodgepodge posted:Man, the guy is putting himself in a position to be attacked as a RINO and thinks "I need to add a D to my name." His middle name is Davis so maybe it's an attempt at finding common ground. If the HFC starts revolting he will go all the way to capitulate and change his first name to Jefferson.
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By the way, as it comes to the death penalty, the federal death penalty is not really the issue. Federal courts are leaps and bounds better than the shithole state courts in Texas or the rest of the deep south and defendants rights are far better protected. It's ending the ability of states in the deep south to apply the death penalty in their kangaroo courts that's the number one issue and there a "pragmatic" pro-death penalty President and death penalty opponents can see eye to eye: you don't need to oppose the death penalty in every situation to agree that Texas can't be trusted with it. Using it as a wedge issue to force reforms in state courts is something everyone can agree on - the federal death penalty is used relatively rarely and in the sort of extreme cases (even for a murder) that makes it pretty far down the line in what needs to go. Obviously it's bad from a moral standpoint and from the standpoint that once you have the door open to certain crimes being heinous enough for the death penalty it's pretty hard to draw a legitimate line anywhere between a standard murder and a heinous crime that doesn't undercut your argument. But the reality is that if you're going to be targeting specific cases to spotlight as an example of why the death penalty should be abolished, you'd basically have to clear out every state in the deep south and probably a lot of others before you get to a federal case. As a result, a president who is pro-justice reform but not morally opposed to the death penalty is still a powerful and valuable ally.
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Mr. Nice! posted:We don't have to worry until he starts calling himself PDR. The only thing we have to feah is........Hillary herself.
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mcmagic posted:So she won't talk about it to try to change the tone of the debate in the US and she won't do anything to end it despite having the power to do a lot but that's OK because an internet poster thinks that she PROBABLY is good on the issue in private. Where do I sign up to vote for that?! Man, we can't even get people to not advocate the death penalty for schoolchildren and minorities driving cars. At least she's limiting it to just criminals. (We are a hosed up country and bluntly there are FAR bigger issues that need to be addressed even just within the criminal justice system.)
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Dr. Tough posted:
My completely irrational non-sequitur opinion I wanted to share with everyone: Why do people, especially in media reports, still use "flat screen TV" when they want to emphasize the fanciness or luxury of a TV set? All TVs have been flat screen for close to a decade now. Even $99 Wal-Mart sets.
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Mr. Nice! posted:We don't have to worry until he starts calling himself PDR. Well pivoting towards hipsterism is one way to try to get past his gymbro photos, I guess.
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