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so thecoach, was star citizen's effigy really not enough warning for you or are you just addicted to throwing money into tire fires
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 18:42 |
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These guys have done more working part time that Scam Citizen has with a huge budget. Comparing this game to SC and going HURR scam is straight up a scummy thing to do. On one hand we have people who have promised some sort of a perfect utopian game of tomorrow, sucked in a metric fuckton of money and produced very little while continuing to milk the community for every cent they can. And on the other you have a guy who in his spare time built a game engine, didn't take donations for it and had big dreams(Quest for Earth). Later he realized those dreams are not going to happen and the whole idea had numerous gameplay problems so he found a few people who could sacrifice their spare time and produced a new game concept(Battlescape) using the same engine. A game concept that is producible and pretty clear about what it is I might add. They decided to launch the kickstarter only when they had real tech to show and they are not afraid to give it to people for reviews. But naaah it's a bad bad game because it has space in it and Lesnick ate all the space and now all space is bad k.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 18:51 |
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TheCoach posted:But naaah it's a bad bad game because it has space in it and Lesnick ate all the space and now all space is bad k. Yup
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 18:53 |
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TheCoach posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/309114309/infinity-battlescape Is struggling hard the last few days, yesterday only pulled in 4k $ They've been working on that game since I was in high school, of course they're having trouble getting funding.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:27 |
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Kickstarter based on famous vaporware is struggling? Gosh
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:38 |
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Which one of you motherfuckers did this
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:41 |
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it was me
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:42 |
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no not really
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:43 |
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Mordja posted:Which one of you motherfuckers did this im the dog looking excitedly at the fire hydrant
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:49 |
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Obsidian @Obsidian 1h1 hour ago So it seems like something was bought by @PdxInteractive and people want us to look into making a game? Hmmm... So basically the next fig project is going to be an Obsidian Vampire game, this info is 146% verified.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:56 |
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I'm OK with that.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 19:59 |
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The furry thing's been in the ad rotation for ages, hasn't it? Megazver posted:Obsidian @Obsidian 1h1 hour ago
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 20:04 |
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icantfindaname posted:crowdfunded investment sounds like a terrible loving idea that's going to get a lot of the clueless nerds running the thing sent to federal prison Not to make too big of a deal out of it but the people actually running the business of Fig are actual financial people who already do that.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 20:33 |
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Megazver posted:Obsidian @Obsidian 1h1 hour ago Ok, it looks like they found the ONLY thing that would make me back a project on Fig.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 20:41 |
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Yes. If you pledged, IGG already took the money from your Paypal or whatever account, rather than collecting at the end of the campaign. They also make it impossibly hard for you to cancel or change a pledge, which is really loving lovely from a user's point of view. Speak of the devil (and he shall change his refund policy, I guess): quote:New feature update: We’re saving you time by processing refunds.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 21:10 |
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Thirsty Dog posted:Kickstarter based on famous vaporware is struggling? Gosh Roger that, can't work on a project before asking people for money, any kind of development on a related old version of the thing is not experience nonono it's bad and you shouldn't have worked on it. Kickstarter kind of exists for situations like this, when you need money to go full time and realize your project that you cannot otherwise realize. That's why it exists. Should he have done a kickstarter before he could be sure about actually finishing it? Like before he had an engine that can run a game as opposed to just rendering a planet? Where is this massive entitlement of "he did not make me game for free years ago so he doesn't deserve anything now" come from? It's completely unfounded. Also vaporware is something that has funding and is never released, not a hobby project done in spare time by a guy.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 22:42 |
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The White Dragon posted:
hey man stop here I gotta take a leak
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 22:45 |
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TheCoach posted:Roger that, can't work on a project before asking people for money, any kind of development on a related old version of the thing is not experience nonono it's bad and you shouldn't have worked on it. Because at the end of the day you're asking people to have confidence in your ability to produce something. A project can do this a number of ways, cashing in reputation built from old projects like your keiji inafune's, a solid demo, whatever works to build trust. The entitlement is expecting people to take someone's word for it directly in conflict with years of proof that the exact same people cannot get things done. It's the same team that hasn't completed a project they were working on for ages and people have every right to say that. The idea that people shouldn't be critical of a project with a reputation for struggling is loving idiotic.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 22:58 |
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Infinity: Battlescape has half their target goal with three weeks left on the clock. That is on track to making it, although they won't hit a lot of stretch goals. As long as they didn't lowball their goal from the true amount of money they need they should be fine. I don't think it helps that space is getting very crowded these days. Elite: Dangerous is already playable, No Man's Sky is scheduled to be out next year, and Star Citizen has already stolen all the jpeg money.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 23:26 |
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And yet no ones making a game you could really call Freelancer 2
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 01:48 |
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Mr Underhill posted:I think the relatively low backer presence on Anchors is due to the F2P element, not the fact that people are weirded out by investors being anonymous. I mean you know that the minute you sign up for the service, and the nice part is it all but eliminates the chances of a campaign not funding. If transparency at all costs is what you're after, I can understand not going their way; if you like a game they are campaigning for, want to see it funded AND want it to have a better than average (way better than Kickstarter, that is) chance that it actually gets made, it's exactly the platform for you, plain and simple. Literally every single word in this post is at best conjecture NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Oct 30, 2015 |
# ? Oct 30, 2015 01:55 |
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I like how every other space crowdfunded project must now be paralleled with Star Citizen. Must be a real killer for everyone involved in the crowdfunding process.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:00 |
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Someone make me a space trading-combat game with real orbital physics ala KSP thanks.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:06 |
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randombattle posted:Because at the end of the day you're asking people to have confidence in your ability to produce something. A project can do this a number of ways, cashing in reputation built from old projects like your keiji inafune's, a solid demo, whatever works to build trust. But they have a very working demo. With a level of procedural generation beyond existing space game projects.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:08 |
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Pavlov posted:Someone make me a space trading-combat game with real orbital physics ala KSP thanks.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:12 |
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Every time I see a space game, all the ships move like submarines or jet planes. KSP has ruined me because I know what actual spaceflight looks like now.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:15 |
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Nemo2342 posted:Ok, it looks like they found the ONLY thing that would make me back a project on Fig. See this is the things lots of y'all don't seem to get, all it takes is one game from a big name to drive people towards Fig. They won't miss the boat because Obsidian waited til the 4th/5th/whatever game, people will show up because of Obsidian regardless if f the timing for Fig itself. Fig doesn't need to sell to backers, it needs to sell confidence to the project starters, and the backers will naturally come if the projects are right.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:23 |
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The question for me is not whether backers will come to an Obsidian game on Fig but whether more or less would come as compared to Kickstarter or Indiegogo. Plus whether this makes a difference to non-big names on Fig in the future. One of the objectives of Fig was to increase the potential intake for projects from crowd sourcing as the founders felt that places like Kickstarter had reached their cap, which I agree is likely. I don't however think the approach Fig seems be going down will beat that, especially in the long term.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:40 |
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Well Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 would definitely be the game that could put Fig's potential popularity to the test.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 02:44 |
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Accordion Man posted:Well Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 would definitely be the game that could put Fig's potential popularity to the test. I would definitely back that immediately, regardless of whatever crowdfunding platform it popped up on.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:03 |
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Pavlov posted:Every time I see a space game, all the ships move like submarines or jet planes. KSP has ruined me because I know what actual spaceflight looks like now. The enemy's gate is down. Underwater games would also be theoretically fun if people could understand 6-axes of movement and a world where there is no "up" or "down". Edit: Decent is the only franchise that really went whole-hog into that. And Forsaken or whatever that other one was too. mutata fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Oct 30, 2015 |
# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:07 |
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Orientation is something space games have to deal with anyway. I'm talking about the way firing your engines affects the direction you go.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 03:31 |
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Pavlov posted:Someone make me a space trading-combat game with real orbital physics ala KSP thanks. Space Truck Simulator has to be a thing that happens eventually right??
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 04:45 |
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I'm genuinely surprised nobody's Kickstarted an HD version of Desert Bus
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 04:54 |
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Yodzilla posted:Space Truck Simulator has to be a thing that happens eventually right?? Isn't Elite Dangerous already out?
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 05:06 |
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Yodzilla posted:Space Truck Simulator has to be a thing that happens eventually right?? I am surprised and disappointed it hasn't happened already.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 05:09 |
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boom boom boom posted:I'm genuinely surprised nobody's Kickstarted an HD version of Desert Bus Pavlov posted:Isn't Elite Dangerous already out? I have heard that Elite Dangerous is supposed to involve combat somehow but all I ever hear about are people spacetrucking.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 05:13 |
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what we need is a game designed around spacetrucking. Something like Euro Truck Sim in Futurama meets Startopia.
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 05:44 |
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Paypal's loving around with Lab Zero's account right now because reasons, and it'll take a minimum of 7-10 days to reverse any restrictions they've put on it. Perfect timing!
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# ? Oct 30, 2015 05:52 |
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:Paypal's loving around with Lab Zero's account right now because reasons, and it'll take a minimum of 7-10 days to reverse any restrictions they've put on it. Perfect timing! Did someone at LabZero hit an old gypsy woman or something?
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