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Dave Brookshaw posted:The new lead Storyteller for the World of Darkness at Paradox is the guy who modeled for the picture of Dracula in V20.  That is just the best fuckin' thing ever. Actual Dracula is lead ST.
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Lightning Lord posted:Even this doesn't prevent NWoD stuff from being utilized - maybe Requiem becomes an alternate universe in some video game.
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Oct 29, 2015 21:12
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Swagger Dagger posted:As long as my deluxe copy of M20 shows up I don't really care what else happens.
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Oct 29, 2015 21:16
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fspades posted:You guys are forgetting one important detail: Paradox Dev Studio won't make an rpg; it's outside their expertise (they tried once with that viking game but weren't satisfied with its progress and scrapped the project). But Paradox published Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity and it was a great financial success for them. And I'm pretty sure Obsidian once mentioned they were seriously considering doing a WoD game and approached WW for it just before CCP bought them. They are setting this up for Obsidian. Don't you loving tease me with getting my hopes up.
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Oct 29, 2015 21:24
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Soonmot posted:Don't you loving tease me with getting my hopes up. Obsidian has "coyly" tweeted some stuff that basically confirms they'll be in talks soon, if they're not already.
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Oct 29, 2015 21:27
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I was JUST talking with my group yesterday about how bloodlines was cool and it sucked there was absolutely no chance of us getting another one because CCP was too busy with it's EVE stuff. Did the universe just conpire to make me look like an rear end in a top hat? I need to be more pessimistic.
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Oct 29, 2015 22:04
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Prison Warden posted:I was JUST talking with my group yesterday about how bloodlines was cool and it sucked there was absolutely no chance of us getting another one because CCP was too busy with it's EVE stuff. Did the universe just conpire to make me look like an rear end in a top hat? I need to be more pessimistic. Somewhere the God-Machine beeps and boops to itself in satisfaction.
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Oct 29, 2015 22:09
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Now you mention it I'm pretty sure I never met my best friend for 8 years until last week.
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Oct 29, 2015 22:11
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I've never read an oWoD book. I don't plan to. I've spent too long learning all the lore for nWoD and don't really feel like learning all new (or all old) stuff again.
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Oct 29, 2015 22:45
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I'm going to soulforge all the Old World of Darkness fans into ashtrays after hitting them with spirit nukes.
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Oct 29, 2015 22:54
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Oct 29, 2015 22:56
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I really hope that oWoD doesn't make a comeback. Even with all of nWoD's faults, it's way better thematically than oWoD. You really want the Ravnos and the Ascension poo poo over the Ordo Dracul, Demons, and Exarchs? FOH with that poo poo
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Oct 30, 2015 00:14
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tatankatonk posted:I really hope that oWoD doesn't make a comeback. Even with all of nWoD's faults, it's way better thematically than oWoD. You really want the Ravnos and the Ascension poo poo over the Ordo Dracul, Demons, and Exarchs? FOH with that poo poo You're way too late on that Also just because g.txt is closed doesn't mean you can dump your stray grog in whatever threads you want! Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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Oct 30, 2015 00:19
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Lightning Lord posted:You're way too late on that We all eventually become the Old Bolsheviks
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Oct 30, 2015 00:23
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tatankatonk posted:We all eventually become the Old Bolsheviks now I am getting afraid for the nWoD second editions 
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Oct 30, 2015 00:25
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Lightning Lord posted:You're way too late on that
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Oct 30, 2015 00:41
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All I'm saying is I would play the poo poo out of a Demon: The Descent video game.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:41
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Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:If you find yourself defending the Ravnos in an internet argument, throw your computer in the garbage and move somewhere without electricity. Hoping Paradox perpetuates edition wars is pretty silly. No matter how badly the Ravnos were handled, and how right Justin Achilli was to downplay them in the most OWoD way possible.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:43
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ZiegeDame posted:All I'm saying is I would play the poo poo out of a Demon: The Descent video game. ICARUS HAS FOUND YOU!!!! RUN WHILE YOU CAN!!!!
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Oct 30, 2015 00:45
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The oWoD is mostly bad. The parts most people remember fondly are the products of 90s nostalgia, which is a disease of the mind. The New World of Darkness is good. Instead of living as racist stereotypes, vampires are able to choose their jobs. Instead of whatever the hell is going on in Ascension, mages get to fight the Exarchs. I hope this clears things up.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:48
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tatankatonk posted:The oWoD is mostly bad. The parts most people remember fondly are the products of 90s nostalgia, which is a disease of the mind. The New World of Darkness is good. Instead of living as racist stereotypes, vampires are able to choose their jobs. Instead of whatever the hell is going on in Ascension, mages get to fight the Exarchs. I hope this clears things up. That's all true if you play OWoD straight, not as 70s horror comics and early Vertigo the RPG and don't realize the books are full of unreliable narrators and are from the point of view of the different splats - and if you're into edition warring.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:54
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Lightning Lord posted:That's all true if you don't play OWoD as 70s horror comics and early Vertigo the RPG - and if you're into edition warring.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:55
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Lightning Lord posted:That's all true if you play OWoD straight, not as 70s horror comics and early Vertigo the RPG and don't realize the books are full of unreliable narrators and are from the point of view of the different splats - and if you're into edition warring. What is "edition warring" and how might the game company Paradox perpetuate it?
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Oct 30, 2015 00:55
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My suggestion here is to see if you can work "edition war" into your posts a bit more prominently.
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Lightning Lord posted:That's all true if you don't play OWoD as 70s horror comics and early Vertigo the RPG - and if you're into edition warring. I don't know what pejorative weight "edition warring" has for you. It has none for me. As a fan of the World of Darkness, I hope that any future video games set in it choose the better edition of the two.
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Well clearly people think their favored game line is going to be axed for spurious reasons, and they're taking it out on a game they don't like. I'm just saying, there's room for both game lines, as the last 3 years has demonstrated.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:57
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tatankatonk posted:I don't know what pejorative weight "edition warring" has for you. It has none for me. As a fan of the World of Darkness, I hope that any future video games set in it choose the better edition of the two. Hell, why not take the third option and combine the best aspects of the two? Bloodlines was hardly a 1:1 representation of VtM, for example.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:59
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Lightning Lord posted:Hell, why not take the third option and combine the best aspects of the two? Bloodlines was hardly a 1:1 representation of VtM, for example. That's true. The best parts of Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines were the parts that studiously ignored its connection to the unwieldy metaplot of Vampire: The Masquerade. The worst part was anything involving the Kuei-Jin, which did not.
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Generally, anything called Vampire that didn't include the clans(bloodlines)/covenants dynamic of Requiem would be worse for it. It can have all the biblical apocalypse plots it wants, but clans as broad vampire species rather than cliquey vampire cultures is just better, as are things like the Ordo Dracul or Lancea Sanctum.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:02
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Lightning Lord posted:Well clearly people think their favored game line is going to be axed for spurious reasons, and they're taking it out on a game they don't like. I'm just saying, there's room for both game lines, as the last 3 years has demonstrated. Agreed. Personally, I like both, I just think nWoD is better. I like having two WoDs, as it let me have my cake and eat it too.
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Lightning Lord posted:Well clearly people think their favored game line is going to be axed for spurious reasons, and they're taking it out on a game they don't like. I'm just saying, there's room for both game lines, as the last 3 years has demonstrated. RPS posted:Paradox have since revealed a little more on what they intend to do with White Wolf, including a post on the latter’s site confirming that “this vision will be realized in multiple digital games titles.” However, an interview on VentureBeat suggets they’re going even further than that. ““We’re going to start licensing out the brand again from the beginning,” said Wester. “We’ll start with one World of Darkness. We’ll start, basically, from day one to unite the community under one flag.” The feeling is that “no-one has really been paying attention to what the community has been up to in the last few years. There’s going to be an immediate change.” None of this is the rosy "nothing's going to change, everything's fine, we're just going to get some cool video games" attitude a lot of people hope Paradox is bringing to this. We are, at the very least, probably going to get a decent video game or two out of it though.
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Crion posted:None of this is the rosy "nothing's going to change, everything's fine, we're just going to get some cool video games" attitude a lot of people hope Paradox is bringing to this. There have been quotes from others since then, some highlighted in this thread, that seem to indicate that this is likely strictly referring to video games.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:09
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I'd just be happy if they brought back humanity and retaining it as the major themes. I do get that it's a lot less marketable than the seven dot celerity power hour stuff, but that stuff has always bored me to tears. Setting wise, there's gold and garbage in both lines. I hope they cherry pick the good out of them both to make a really good one.
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The only oWoD games to compare to the nWoD stuff are things like Wraith and Orpheus and oDemon, which, amazingly, mostly do their own thing. *uses oVampire combat to freeze oWoD fans in place while I ready Heinrich Himmler, Tzimisce, for deployment*
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ScaryJen posted:I'd just be happy if they brought back humanity and retaining it as the major themes. I do get that it's a lot less marketable than the seven dot celerity power hour stuff, but that stuff has always bored me to tears. Setting wise, there's gold and garbage in both lines. I hope they cherry pick the good out of them both to make a really good one. To me, the nWoD being lower powered always read as deliberate and a selling point. The powering-up of the later gamelines and second editions always rubbed me wrong. 
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Lightning Lord posted:There have been quotes from others since then, some highlighted in this thread, that seem to indicate that this is likely strictly referring to video games. All I'm seeing is "we'll clarify soon" surrounded by vague, soothing PR talk. I mean, take that stuff at face value if you want, but it's probably safer to wait on the new contracts to get signed before trusting in anyone's love for the brand. Paradox didn't buy this vast IP catalog out of a sense of community stewardship.
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The only thing I want out of the new ownership is to punt Beast: the Primordial and its Dark Mother metaplot back into the passion-project ooze it crawled out of. It'd be nice if they came out of the gate with a "One World of Darkness" Vampire video game that was neither new fish nor old fowl to hype up a tabletop release of a 100% fresh system sometime down the road. The only thing I'd fear in the near-term is if OPP released bad products in the interim.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:22
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I'm a mixed bag of emotions. Literally 25 minutes before the announcement, I ordered the 2nd edition books. There's no goddamn way that Paradox would think to scrap all that work for some idiotic "unified vision". Then again, my games are huge mash-ups anyway. I don't really give a gently caress about what is canon.
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MonsieurChoc posted:To me, the nWoD being lower powered always read as deliberate and a selling point. The powering-up of the later gamelines and second editions always rubbed me wrong. Same here. That and the all the racist stereotype clans/bloodlines. nWod did a lot mechanically I liked, but the overuse of gritty grimdark lens on Vampire in particular really soured me on the line. The other lines were hit or miss for me, but this was the case for oWoD too.
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