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popejackson posted:This is the best show on TV right now. Agreed, it is a shame that it had such an abrasive/divisive first season. I enjoyed the first season but can understand why people didn't, and anyone I've recommended the show to based on Season 2 I've had to give disclaimers that they may or may not enjoy the first season. But this season is easily a 10/10 so far and on par with the better seasons of Lost.
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This show is making me really glad I decided to stick through with it and keep watching. Also I wasn't sure about the theme song to Season 2 initially but goddamn now I love it.
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Oct 27, 2015 22:56
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I'm glad this thread is extremely positive about season 2, I've been loving it as well. I liked season 1 a lot, but I agree with everyone saying the formula's been improved upon.
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Oct 27, 2015 22:58
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Love the show, fuckin LOVE the new theme song. gets me 100% hype for every show.
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Oct 27, 2015 23:13
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Theories. Any thoughts? * Black trailer-living dude with a limp who paid for Nora's liquor is involved with Kevin ending up in a lake: he said 'come see me later' with a knowing look to Kevin that day when they first arrived. * Alt!Kevin saw the girls go poof and decided to off himself before the town went mental. * The girls decided to leave the repressive town and used the best cover story ever. Maybe hoping that the town of Miracle would no longer be treated as special. Can Patty be real? She does seem at times to be a reflection of Kevin's mental state - even the husband story could be imagined - but she did give him information: the phone, the arriving car. Not exactly much that couldn't be coincidence or gut feelings so far. Nice to see Mrs Murphy elaborate a bit more on how that town being spared made a whole bunch of people think that they somehow imparted specialness to the town by being psychic or doing the goat ritual or whatever other "miracles" they've had in Miracle. On that note, We had a bunch of Columbine shooting survivors visit town once to talk about their experience and their faith and it was was a confusing and disturbing experience. Surviving and faith and martydom all in a muddy mess that felt slightly insulting to the dead and the other survivors. It is hard to hear "I'm blessed that I was spared and I think it was God's plan" because it kinda implies that God's plan for the others was to die. Tragedy gets really messy when you try and find meaning in it. n3wt fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 23:20
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n3wt posted:Can Patty be real? She does seem at times to be a reflection of Kevin's mental state - even the husband story could be imagined - but she did give him information: the phone, the arriving car. Not exactly much that couldn't be coincidence or gut feelings so far.
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Oct 27, 2015 23:27
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Zsinjeh posted:The hermit in the tower, are we supposed to think he can see Patty? He was practically yelling across town so of course he heard him talk to *someone*, but did he seem to look at Patty as she walked away too? Rupert Buttermilk posted:I'm pretty sure that dude on the tower asking who Kevin's friend is is just realizing he's talking to someone in his head when Kevin's yelling "shut the gently caress up". I'm sure tower guy is familiar with that behaviour.
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Oct 27, 2015 23:31
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I don't think he would've said anything to Kevin if he saw two people arguing. So I think he just saw Kevin yelling at air.
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Oct 27, 2015 23:32
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Zsinjeh posted:The hermit in the tower, are we supposed to think he can see Patty? He was practically yelling across town so of course he heard him talk to *someone*, but did he seem to look at Patty as she walked away too? The ambiguity comes from Kevin's dad who was talking about stuff he couldn't have known, knowing stuff that couldn't be coincidences. That and dog killing man. It's hard to know if Patty's just Kevin losing it after a fascinatingly horrid woman he hated and kind of admired in a way killed herself in front of him after cryptic messages...or she's like one of the voices that have been guiding his dad. In this (tv) universe it's very hard to know what's real or not: Holy Wayne may have been a rich pedo peddling hope but occasionally he got it right. Patty felt that something terrible was coming and was right. Is it the broken clock effect or is there more to it? I'm not sure the show will answer whether Kevin's Patty manifestations are real/prescient/guidance from a higher power because that might answer the question of whether there's supernatural things in the world or we just see them as such (see the rev and his casino winnings).
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Oct 27, 2015 23:49
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I'm embarrassed to say I'm having trouble remembering, didn't Holy Wayne hug Nora and if so what was her reaction to it? I feel the need to buy season 1 and recheck a few things.
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Oct 28, 2015 05:15
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Dantu posted:I'm embarrassed to say I'm having trouble remembering, didn't Holy Wayne hug Nora and if so what was her reaction to it? I feel the need to buy season 1 and recheck a few things. As I recall, he hugged her in New York, and then she went home and finally stopped buying her kids' favorite cereal at the store, effectively "moving on."
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Oct 28, 2015 05:32
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ShakeZula posted:As I recall, he hugged her in New York, and then she went home and finally stopped buying her kids' favorite cereal at the store, effectively "moving on." And then had a morning. Wakes up the next morning and sees her family wax doubles at the table and has a breakdown. Then decides to gently caress off and leave only to find an abandoned baby on the doorstep of the Garvey house.
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Oct 28, 2015 05:46
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Patty is probably real, or at least a real ghost, because her story about her husband getting pooped on explains why she pooped in that bag last season. Kevin doesn't know about the doggy bag full of poop, right?
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Oct 28, 2015 06:49
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Laurie knows and there was that bit about how Laurie must have shared stuff and how confidentiality was probably bullshit. gently caress. I wasn't on board with Patti being in Kevin's head only but now I gotta keep my ears open.
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Oct 28, 2015 08:07
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I hope the whole "hearing voices" thing gets passed down another generation so we can get a Holy Wayne head character. Also, what happened with the daughter's best friend last season? I remember she had the hots for Dad, but can't remember if that led to her getting booted from the family and this season
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Oct 28, 2015 16:00
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savinhill posted:I hope the whole "hearing voices" thing gets passed down another generation so we can get a Holy Wayne head character. Well, they moved almost the whole way across the country, so perhaps that had something to do with it.
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Oct 28, 2015 16:07
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I really like the theme song this season. It's lyrically perfect and the tone is such a change from last season. Really good choice. Here's David Byrne and Natalie Merchant covering it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gk8JJTinUI Edit: Revived my early 90s crush on Natalie Merchant there I think
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Oct 28, 2015 16:58
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savinhill posted:Also, what happened with the daughter's best friend last season? I remember she had the hots for Dad, but can't remember if that led to her getting booted from the family and this season She left the house after getting pissed at Jill for asking her if she hosed her dad.
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Oct 28, 2015 19:14
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I'd say she had her heart broken that her best friend could think she was capable of it more than pissed. But yeah.
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Oct 29, 2015 00:33
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Yeah I'm on the boat of people who thought the intro was way off on the first episode but now having seen it a few times it fits loving perfectly. This show is kicking some serious rear end and I can't loving wait week to week for the next episode.
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Oct 29, 2015 01:26
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No comments about the song from grease? I couldn't have been the only one listening to the lyrics and slowly realizing its this dark and serious cover of a frigging olivia newton john song, which cracked me up. "why do I know this song? Oh..Ohhh..uhh wha?"
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Oct 29, 2015 17:51
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zer0spunk posted:No comments about the song from grease? I couldn't have been the only one listening to the lyrics and slowly realizing its this dark and serious cover of a frigging olivia newton john song, which cracked me up. "why do I know this song? Oh..Ohhh..uhh wha?" Pretty much my exact thoughts during that scene. The slow realization of what's playing was quite funny.
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Oct 29, 2015 17:56
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I've never seen Grease so Also, I've been skipping the intro song every time. Guess I'll give it a whirl next episode!
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Oct 29, 2015 20:30
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It's a show with two theme songs, really. The theme from Season 1 is used repeatedly throughout the episodes in Season 2.
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Oct 29, 2015 20:42
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I like this seasons intro but the first seasons was really good too.
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Oct 29, 2015 20:56
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The entire season 1 soundtrack is amazing. I feel awful every time I hear it and I love it for exactly that reason.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:The entire season 1 soundtrack is amazing. I feel awful every time I hear it and I love it for exactly that reason. It's all on Spotify, I play it at work when I need to tune everyone else out & type
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Oct 30, 2015 00:15
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The grease song was weird, but Patty singing Rickroll was REALLY weird.
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Oct 30, 2015 00:54
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zer0spunk posted:No comments about the song from grease? I couldn't have been the only one listening to the lyrics and slowly realizing its this dark and serious cover of a frigging olivia newton john song, which cracked me up. "why do I know this song? Oh..Ohhh..uhh wha?" I forgot all about that, man that was creepy.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:47
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Onomarchus posted:Fiction has been spending a lot of time on suicide pretty much since fiction began, but this is the first TV series (or anything, probably) I've seen that focuses intently on trolling, specifically by taking what is or began as an internet thing and taking it essentially entirely off-internet. Intentionally loving with people to get a rise out of them didn't begin on the Internet.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:58
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Yeah the Greek gods used to troll people all the time. We just used old timey words for it before the internet.
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Oct 30, 2015 10:33
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Normy posted:Intentionally loving with people to get a rise out of them didn't begin on the Internet.
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Zsinjeh posted:Like 80% of the Bible is God loving with random people because the Devil bet him 10 bucks he couldn't do it I was thinking about someone telling the story of Job and the reaction was "that's supposed to make me feel better? WHY WOULD HE DO THAT TO SUCH A NICE GUY!?!??! GOD IS AN rear end in a top hat" total paraphrase but I can't remember where I saw this scene. the guy was down and this story was meant to lift his spirits.
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Oct 31, 2015 04:45
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Shadow posted:I was thinking about someone telling the story of Job and the reaction was "that's supposed to make me feel better? WHY WOULD HE DO THAT TO SUCH A NICE GUY!?!??! GOD IS AN rear end in a top hat" South park. Kyles parents told him that story when he had a hemorrhoid and were trying to cheer him up. "so job has all his children killed, cartman runs his own theme park, and Michael Bay gets to keep making movies. There is no God."
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Menamino posted:South park. Kyles parents told him that story when he had a hemorrhoid and were trying to cheer him up. Ha! Yes! South Park. Thank you  Wait. No. I distinctly remember "why would he do that to a nice guy" or something. Pretty sure. Argh. Wait! You were right! quote:KYLE Shadow fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Nov 1, 2015 02:22
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Is that Brett Butler as the cross and shrine whack-'em lady?
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Vortex Street posted:Is that Brett Butler as the cross and shrine whack-'em lady? I looked her up, because I thought the same thing, but it doesn't look like it (despite it almost looking like it). Also, what the hell was with the Brian-paddle thing?
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Nov 2, 2015 04:04
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What on God's green loving Earth was that spanking scene?
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Nov 2, 2015 04:05
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Jesus this show has gotten good. This was a wacky loving episode though.
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Puppy Galaxy posted:Jesus this show has gotten good. This was a wacky loving episode though. Poor Matt just can't catch a loving break. Also, again with the goats? I'm thinking that the goat slaughter guy does it to prove to everyone a) that he's keeping the town "holy" (at least in his mind) by sacrificing one a day, OR b) he's like John, doesn't believe there's anything special about the town in terms of healing or lack of death, and proves it every day by killing a goat.
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