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Aerox posted:A couple hours ago someone leaked a giant ~100 slide internal Bush campaign Powerpoint presentation to US News outlining goals, strategies, and data. Internal polling data, ad strategy, vote goals -- really interesting stuff and I'm sure he's livid it got leaked. lol 
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computer parts posted:The US ain't getting whiter. Funny thing is that if they did stuff like offer free childcare and huge tax credits for kids and all that you'd see the white birth rate go up which is ostensibly what they want for the future. But that's not the kind of family values they're in favor of. They prefer the kind that doom them in both the short AND long term
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Oct 30, 2015 01:00
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We've gotta convince the GOP it's a bad idea to put Rubio against Clinton. I mean geez his profile is almost identical to the guy who beat Clinton!
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Oct 30, 2015 01:00
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computer parts posted:The US ain't getting whiter. We'll just redefine white to include Mexicans or something.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:01
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Joementum posted:My favorite part of that 112 slide deck is that the Texas Land Commissioner is listed as a "notable endorsement". While I'm sure Joe knows, if you don't know the Texas Land Commissioner is George P. Bush and he's currently being frowned at sternly for breaking the law, firing most of the old employees, and replacing them all with his BFFs while flouting the legally required posting/application process. (Story is behind paywall -- google search the URL and click the link from there: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/Bush-reboot-of-land-office-has-campaign-family-6515179.php) It must be nice not ever facing consequences for anything.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:02
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This man dreams about Donald Trump every sweatsoaked night
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Oct 30, 2015 01:02
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:We'll just redefine white to include Mexicans or something. The ones that pass the paper bag test are already considered white. See: 
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Oct 30, 2015 01:03
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Does jeb! not understand the hows and whys of people lying to pollsters? Yeah, they said yes. That doesn't mean they believe it, or that you should say it.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:03
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computer parts posted:The US ain't getting whiter. It remains to be seen if the conservatives are willing to just expand the definition of white to combat this.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:08
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I dont like rubio, but he is honestly the closet republican that could win moderates. if jeb were smart, he would attack trump, carson and cruz as being insane radicals. People voting for Trump or Carson are not likely to have Jeb as their second, third, fourth, fifth, or sixth choice. Jeb gains little by their support dropping (and he's already failed miserably at attacking Trump). On the other hand, someone voting for Rubio is likely to have Jeb high up on their list of candidates so if he can tear Rubio down his chances improve.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:10
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gradenko_2000 posted:It remains to be seen if the conservatives are willing to just expand the definition of white to combat this. 
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Oct 30, 2015 01:10
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Aerox posted:A couple hours ago someone leaked a giant ~100 slide internal Bush campaign Powerpoint presentation to US News outlining goals, strategies, and data. Internal polling data, ad strategy, vote goals -- really interesting stuff and I'm sure he's livid it got leaked. As someone who has done this for a years, they have some good stuff in there but: 1) There is a lot of DON'T PANIC! going on in there which means they are hearing from not only donors but long time grassroots supporters. 2) I don't know why they are obsessing over Trump's quote on GWB. My general feeling is that this won't be an election on national security and quite frankly they are taking the wrong lesson away from that line of attack. The more they dwell on it the more it's a story. 3) They are clearly worried about Rubio. 4) Jeb is still not polling well in key states and is 3 or 4 candidates behind, so their net favorability and 2nd choice means nothing really. Anyways, that's my thought.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:13
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Man, so much of that Bush thing makes it clear he's hosed.  how loving desperate do you have to be to publish this chart: "look, we're ahead of Trump in 'cares about the needs of people like you' by a whole four percent! amazing!"
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Oct 30, 2015 01:13
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One of my favorite slides: edit - Hmm MoH recipients? Better trust them on foreign policy I guess. Plus the fact this is literally the most positive they could get these internal numbers to run.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:14
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Mooseontheloose posted:As someone who has done this for a years, they have some good stuff in there but: Yeah "look, once you add up first and second choice voters in New Hampshire...we're still getting shithoused by Trump and Carson and it's not even close, but we beat a bunch of other no-hopers!"
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Oct 30, 2015 01:15
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evilweasel posted:Yeah "look, once you add up first and second choice voters in New Hampshire...we're still getting shithoused by Trump and Carson and it's not even close, but we beat a bunch of other no-hopers!" What;s even worse for those numbers? Huckabee's votes will (most likely) go to Carson, Rand Paul's probably go to Trump. Bush's natural 2nd and 3rd choicers are Christie, Kaisaich, and Rubio. So numerically speaking it doesn't look good.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:21
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Sharkie posted:One of my favorite slides: That is incredible.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:22
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Sharkie posted:One of my favorite slides: If those were the literal options they gave it is such a bad push poll. Also no error bars in sight.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:24
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Look at page 42. Jeb polls slightly higher than Clinton! In tiny print at the bottom: It's a poll of Republicans and Republican leaning registered voters.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:25
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i did it i did it i did it i found the single most pathetic slide on there  that might be a typo but i choose to believe that jeb can barely beat Clinton even among republican voters
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Oct 30, 2015 01:26
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evilweasel posted:Yeah "look, once you add up first and second choice voters in New Hampshire...we're still getting shithoused by Trump and Carson and it's not even close, but we beat a bunch of other no-hopers!" Literally every other candidate's "Path to Victory" includes "Step X: Trump and Carson somehow go away". If Trump fails to implode in a spectacular fashion, nobody else really has a good shot at this. Also most political analysts think it's a question of When, not If the Donald's campaign implodes (because they haven't yet realized that this isn't their daddy's election)
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Oct 30, 2015 01:26
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Look at page 42. 
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Oct 30, 2015 01:28
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evilweasel posted:i did it i did it i did it That's actually really weird results if it was republicans because they basically all say, yah clinton has the expierence and cares about me on some level. I just don't trust her. And if that's the case, Bush is fuuuuuucked in a general.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:29
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Fried Chicken posted:In the broader picture, since 1980 the GOP has been aggressively adopting Leo Strauss' theories of a national mythos Would you go into this a little deeper, if you don't mind? I knew that Charles C. Johnson and his right-wing California conservative friends are all Straussian, but I didn't know it was a mainstream Republican thing.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:29
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evilweasel posted:i did it i did it i did it Goodbye Jeb!, murdered by a loud man with a very odd-looking combover.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:29
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evilweasel posted:i did it i did it i did it Here's the poll. It's actually pretty bad for Jeb! "The survey includes 737 Republicans with a margin of error of +/-3.6 percentage points and 587 Democrats with a margin of error of +/-4 percentage points".
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Oct 30, 2015 01:31
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Sharkie posted:One of my favorite slides: MoH recipients, while also generally being really good at shooting people, are also foreign policy wonks! Who knew!?
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Oct 30, 2015 01:32
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Sharkie posted:One of my favorite slides: Why are you using an obvious push poll as if it's meaningful?  If this is how Republicans handle polling no wonder Romney thought he was going to coast to victory.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:33
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Sharkie posted:One of my favorite slides: Is this real This can't possibly be a real thing
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Oct 30, 2015 01:34
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Mooseontheloose posted:That's actually really weird results if it was republicans because they basically all say, yah clinton has the expierence and cares about me on some level. I just don't trust her. This is almost word for word what I've gotten from everybody I've talked to, D or R. She's got the resume, funding, and name recognition, but she's disingenuous and untrustworthy. Then you get the people like my mom who still hate her and Bill for the Lewinsky scandal.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:35
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The Senate has reconvened. Ted Cruz is speaking.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:37
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Riosan posted:This is almost word for word what I've gotten from everybody I've talked to, D or R. She's got the resume, funding, and name recognition, but she's disingenuous and untrustworthy. Then you get the people like my mom who still hate her and Bill for the Lewinsky scandal. I'll never understand it.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:38
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"In the next 15 months, as I have said before, we are in a Hobbesian state of nature." ~ Ted Cruz. Big, if true.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:39
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evilweasel posted:i did it i did it i did it wow, JEB! seems to have fallen into the same trap that got mittens and got his brother when he decided to do Iraq. He surrounded himself with either sychophents or menpulators who fed him all the poo poo he wanted to hear even when he was wrong. I mean gently caress the internal polls even hurt him. He could very well be hosed.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:39
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Joementum posted:The Senate has reconvened. Ted Cruz is speaking. In the distance, a wolf howls.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:39
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¡Jeb! is going to have a real fun time explaining this leak. I can't wait!
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Oct 30, 2015 01:42
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Joementum posted:"In the next 15 months, as I have said before, we are in a Hobbesian state of nature." ~ Ted Cruz. Well if we're lucky, his remaining time campaigning and in office will be short. It's already guaranteed to be nasty and brutish, after all.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:43
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Joementum posted:"In the next 15 months, as I have said before, we are in a Hobbesian state of nature." ~ Ted Cruz. International relations are always a Hobbesian state of nature, you big lunatic Ted.
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Oct 30, 2015 01:47
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Just so we're clear on Nader: here's his celebrity endorsement here's his campaign video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JSBhI_0at0
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seiferguy posted:Dr. Ben Carson It is important to remember that a socialist collective built the Ark and it was alienated labor that built the Titanic
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