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So what exactly is so bad about the PvP in this game? I've seen a lot of negative sentiment in this thread, but I've been chaining warzones since I finished SoR because I wanted a break before KotFE and I'm having a blast. The lack of clickable name plates makes things a little frustrating, but as a Juggernaut I usually just hit whatever is in my face so tab targeting has been sufficient.
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Rasmussen posted:I really enjoyed kotfe, but I finally realized why was bugging me about it and that is the fact that it's just not star wars anymore. It feels like some kind of bizzarro EU story. I mean it's still good and I enjoyed it, and I understand why they went in this direction but the story and setting is now just future space knights grand adventure. You know, you can play it as a non-Jedi if that's the problem.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:07
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Rasmussen posted:I really enjoyed kotfe, but I finally realized why was bugging me about it and that is the fact that it's just not star wars anymore. It feels like some kind of bizzarro EU story. I mean it's still good and I enjoyed it, and I understand why they went in this direction but the story and setting is now just future space knights grand adventure. Have you read about the Yuuzhan Vong? This storyline on the Eternal Empire is hardly outside the realm of Star Wars pseudo-reality.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:16
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I kind of like how KotFE showed us a completely new culture that still fits within the Star Wars setting, instead of just the Sith Empire and Republic that mysteriously resemble the OT-era Galactic Empire and the Prequels-era Republic from thousands of years later. I mean, I don't begrudge the fact that they made that choice to start off with, since it is probably better that there's just a bunch of iconic Star Wars-y stuff everywhere 1-50, but it's cool for this new storyline to really do something with the fact that this is thousands of years before the movies, with different civilizations, different technologies, different ways of seeing the Force. I do wish we'd seen a bit more of the impact all of this had on the rest of the galaxy, but since Chapter IX ended with the formation of the Alliance I'm sure we'll see more of that in coming chapters.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:37
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^^^ Only seen the movies, I'm afraid.Defiance Industries posted:You know, you can play it as a non-Jedi if that's the problem. I actually thought as I was playing through on my Inquis that it would be a great generic sci-fi story if it didn't have jedi/sith. I think the kotfe story would play a lot better as a non force user, but that's not why I play star wars.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:38
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Bait and Swatch posted:Have you read about the Yuuzhan Vong? This storyline on the Eternal Empire is hardly outside the realm of Star Wars pseudo-reality. If anything Zakuul is just a less weird version of that. Enemies from beyond known space, you say?
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Oct 30, 2015 05:39
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Rasmussen posted:^^^ Only seen the movies, I'm afraid. The EU in general has a big problem with never being able to escape the shadow of the films, so that this feels so different is a good thing.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:40
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Fojar38 posted:The EU in general has a big problem with never being able to escape the shadow of the films, so that this feels so different is a good thing. Bioware said when making KotFE that the changes in Star Wars canon were a large part of what gave them the freedom to make KotFE with more original ideas. One interview said one of the changes that made for KotFE was keeping things in entirely new locations rather than having most of the expansion take place on already existing Star Wars worlds - Bothawui was named as one of the worlds KotFE was originally planned to go to. I assume that's also why, for one big thing, we're seeing a new Force tradition that's not Jedi or Sith and seems to operate by a different set of rules.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:45
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I guess star wars to me is the eternal struggle between sith and jedi, empire and republic, good vs evil. I'm old, so maybe I just fear change. It's still good and I still enjoyed it though, so I'm not really complaining.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:47
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Bait and Swatch posted:Have you read about the Yuuzhan Vong? This storyline on the Eternal Empire is hardly outside the realm of Star Wars pseudo-reality. NJO was really bad tho
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Oct 30, 2015 05:50
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Bait and Swatch posted:Have you read about the Yuuzhan Vong? This storyline on the Eternal Empire is hardly outside the realm of Star Wars pseudo-reality. Interestingly Koth's theory that the Eternal Fleet is from another galaxy is an EU concept that is tied into the Vong: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Silentium%E2%80%93Abominor_War
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Oct 30, 2015 05:56
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Baron Porkface posted:Interestingly Koth's theory that the Eternal Fleet is from another galaxy is an EU concept that is tied into the Vong: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Silentium%E2%80%93Abominor_War I kind of wish they had actually gone with the Vong now that they've been retconned out. Canderous even tells you a story about a mysterious coral asteroid that he saw once in KOTOR 1.
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Oct 30, 2015 05:58
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Sorry if this has been asked a bunch, but how do I do a solo flashpoint?
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Oct 30, 2015 06:36
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Couple pages back:Promethium posted:For most of the non-solo flashpoints all you need to do to get it off your quest markers is have a chat with Satele/Malgus on the Fleet after picking it up initially, they'll give you instructions and auto-assign you the [TACTICAL] flashpoint, then you can abandon the [TACTICAL] quest from your log and you'll never see the breadcrumb triangle again. Jan posted:Yeah, that's one of the big changes that came with 4.0. Just do as above, abandon the [TACTICAL] flashpoint then use the NPC in front of the appropriate flashpoint to ask for the Solo flashpoint.
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Oct 30, 2015 06:39
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Is it a bug that I keep getting the same schematics repeatedly? Over the last few days of playing, I have literally received that scrabbler jerky schematic over 20 times, with no other schematic drops. I am even getting the drat thing in chest rolls. On a similar note, the only schematic I am getting from tier 8 slicing missions is the vectron slicer, of which I have received 6. I aso noticed that I haven't seen a decoration drop since pre 4.0, and I have gained over 30 levels since then. Is this standard in this game, some type of bug with the loot table rng, or am I just unlucky?
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Oct 30, 2015 06:54
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Rasmussen posted:I really enjoyed kotfe, but I finally realized why was bugging me about it and that is the fact that it's just not star wars anymore. It feels like some kind of bizzarro EU story. I mean it's still good and I enjoyed it, and I understand why they went in this direction but the story and setting is now just future space knights grand adventure. Actually, it owns, because while I think highly of the base SWTOR story they definitely went maybe a bit too heavy on being "iconic" with references to the star wars movies in a way KOTOR didn't even really do.
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Oct 30, 2015 07:22
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Berke Negri posted:Actually, it owns, because while I think highly of the base SWTOR story they definitely went maybe a bit too heavy on being "iconic" with references to the star wars movies in a way KOTOR didn't even really do. I wish they and all the rest of the EU would knock it off with the ubiquity of carbon freezing.
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Oct 30, 2015 08:15
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The perpetual importance of Hoth and Tatooine are good examples of "living in the shadow of the films" btw.
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Oct 30, 2015 08:19
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An rear end in a top hat of a planet where nothing ever happens and nobody would look for anything. Except that everybody's already there.
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Oct 30, 2015 08:35
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Berke Negri posted:Actually, it owns, because while I think highly of the base SWTOR story they definitely went maybe a bit too heavy on being "iconic" with references to the star wars movies in a way KOTOR didn't even really do. I'm glad they're doing something new. It has always bugged me that every Star Wars game has to have a Hoth level, or a Tatooine level, or an Endor level crammed in there. Despite the fact that all those planets are supposed to be the galactic equivalent of Bumfuck, Nowhere. (I give a pass to games like the Battlefront series where people are re-playing the Battle of Hoth, since Hoth is like the 2fort of Star Wars games.) The Empire is supposed to be this huge loving empire, encompassing hundreds, if not thousands, of planets. And that's a really cool premise for someone to make up some crazy awesome planets. Yet in almost every game it's the same handful of planets from the movies. So we have to slog through boring ice planet and boring desert planet. Planets like Hoth and Endor that we saw in the movies were supposed to be super secret military bases, the space equivalent of places like Area 51, Los Alamos, or wherever you set up your meth and moonshine brewing shack. They shouldn't be big quest hubs where all sorts of important things happened in the past. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 09:35 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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Oct 30, 2015 08:40
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I don't remember ability bloat being this terrible. Level 20 and I have two full hotbars already. 
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Oct 30, 2015 09:19
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How do you get a strategic resource matrix?
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Oct 30, 2015 09:27
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poptart_fairy posted:I don't remember ability bloat being this terrible. Level 20 and I have two full hotbars already. Are you F2P? If not, imagine that same bloat but you only have 2 quickbars. gently caress. So, I hit level 20 during the first Flashpoint (solo) and I haven't even taken the shuttle to Coruscant yet. Is this unusual? I mean, apparently, Capital Planet is 10-16 and I'm already 4 levels ahead of that.
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Oct 30, 2015 09:32
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Ability bloat was always terrible and one of the things that I hated most at release. Also XP got tweaked after the 12x class xp finished so you only need to do class and core planet missions to level, but throw in a flashpoint and whatnot and you'll jump right up.
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Oct 30, 2015 09:59
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poptart_fairy posted:I don't remember ability bloat being this terrible. Level 20 and I have two full hotbars already.
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Oct 30, 2015 10:26
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You don't have to put every move on your bars. Or even learn them all.
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Oct 30, 2015 10:30
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Longbaugh01 posted:Are you F2P? If not, imagine that same bloat but you only have 2 quickbars. gently caress. Doesn't matter anymore. If you're too high or low for a planet you get scaled.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:16
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Ugh, whoever thought making you do PvP to recruit someone is a cruel cruel person indeed. Yes, I'd love to get killed by people who have nothing better to do than PvP for a few hours to recruit someone, thank you. And why is it so hard to get any kind of gear upgrades? I've been using the Devoted Allies stuff I pulled from my companion when 4.0 hit, and I'd really like to actually be able to change to a different weapon skin, but as far as I can tell there's nowhere to get any mods better than that without relying on random drops or spending millions of credits on the GTN.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:22
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Yeah I'm F2P, not going to sub for a little while yet - although I'll probably do sooner than planned at this rate.  It's just a bit of a shock really, coming from The Secret World and it's five abilities set-up. I have about six different missiles that all do marginally different things and wargh. Haven't played since release which doesn't help!
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Oct 30, 2015 11:23
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Run the daily storymode ops and you'll get at least 1 drop and have the chance for more.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:24
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This may have been answered in the thread and maybe I missed it in the OP, but nothing you do in vanilla/previous expansions (companion quests/class story choices/etc) locks you out of things in KOTFE, does it? Haven't played since pretty much 6 months after launch or so and wanted to make sure things I did years ago won't screw me outta things today!
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Oct 30, 2015 11:29
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Hunter Noventa posted:And why is it so hard to get any kind of gear upgrades? I've been using the Devoted Allies stuff I pulled from my companion when 4.0 hit, and I'd really like to actually be able to change to a different weapon skin, but as far as I can tell there's nowhere to get any mods better than that without relying on random drops or spending millions of credits on the GTN. If you're a class that uses guns, you can get 208 barrels by buying Agent/Smuggler offhand items for common crystals and ripping the mods out of those.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:34
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sassassin posted:You don't have to put every move on your bars. You shut your sinnin' mouth. 
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MotU posted:This may have been answered in the thread and maybe I missed it in the OP, but nothing you do in vanilla/previous expansions (companion quests/class story choices/etc) locks you out of things in KOTFE, does it? Haven't played since pretty much 6 months after launch or so and wanted to make sure things I did years ago won't screw me outta things today! Well, the main story is pretty much entirely a linear corridors-and-conversations experience, so I don't think there's anything you could get locked out of. After that it's all recruitment missions, and most are going to be companions from other classes, so nothing you'll have done will ever come up. Question of my own though, I have a level 55 Agent I'm considering taking through SoR and KotFE, but I'm curious to know, in either expansion does the fact that I'm a double agent get even so much as alluded to, even once? I mean, I'd expect Theron to know since he's SIS, and you meet another double agent on Ziost so I wondered if it comes up.
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Oct 30, 2015 12:26
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Does anyone know if they are bringing back the TRK-R Treatment Chamber or the Walkhar Trickster this Halloween?
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Oct 30, 2015 13:15
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Hunter Noventa posted:Ugh, whoever thought making you do PvP to recruit someone is a cruel cruel person indeed. Yes, I'd love to get killed by people who have nothing better to do than PvP for a few hours to recruit someone, thank you. I like that they're giving us different things to do to recruit companions. You definitely don't NEED all of them, so there's no reason you have to PvP unless you are a Pokemon master who has to get them all. I hope they have different quests for future companions too, maybe I'll even play GSF to get someone.  As far as ability bloat goes, I really don't agree with that. Yes, the game gives you a bunch of moves. Some are used in some specs but not others. This isn't a Wii game, it's a PC game designed to be used with a keyboard and mouse and is best played with a MMO mouse. Depending on your spec you're going to use 5 to 6 moves in you're regular rotation, with some cool downs here and there. If you don't want to complicate things, you don't have to use the majority of your moves, especially if you're playing the game as a single player RPG. It's honestly pretty simplistic already. Hell, my Powertech has empty slots on his second toolbar in tank spec because he doesn't have ENOUGH options (RIP Unload).
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Medullah posted:I like that they're giving us different things to do to recruit companions. You definitely don't NEED all of them, so there's no reason you have to PvP unless you are a Pokemon master who has to get them all. I hope they have different quests for future companions too, maybe I'll even play GSF to get someone. I did do my 2nd time at the one that requires kill "trophies" the hard way though - took 20 kills from mobs on a 10 minute respawn timer 
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Hulk Smash! posted:Yeah, I'm definitively not going to get all companions on all of my alts. The PVP one though, I figure I'll do it once conquest is back to a bonus to PVP matches and kill two birds with one stone. I didn't need to do the PvP one since I was already Valor 50.  Though one thing I just thought about, post PvP companion spoiler Can you get the Kindly Old Monster quest without finishing the PvP one? That might kinda suck if you want that companion and are gated by PvP . As far as the trophy one goes, I'm constantly seeing world boss groups forming on the fleet now so I would recommend against anyone trying to farm the solo mode Hoth ones heh.
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Medullah posted:I didn't need to do the PvP one since I was already Valor 50. Re: your spoiler - I don't see why not. I have yet to do the 1st and the other quest is available to me. I don't think there's a set order to these.
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Empress Theonora posted:I kind of like how KotFE showed us a completely new culture that still fits within the Star Wars setting, instead of just the Sith Empire and Republic that mysteriously resemble the OT-era Galactic Empire and the Prequels-era Republic from thousands of years later. I mean, I don't begrudge the fact that they made that choice to start off with, since it is probably better that there's just a bunch of iconic Star Wars-y stuff everywhere 1-50, but it's cool for this new storyline to really do something with the fact that this is thousands of years before the movies, with different civilizations, different technologies, different ways of seeing the Force. Something that always bugged me is how the Sith Empire has like the same drat uniforms as the Galactic Empire thousands of years later. Palpy must have been a REALLY dedicated historical reenactor. And it doesn't make sense for the Empire to have them, because they were former Republic officials and just Like I know just from seeing the armor sets or looking up pictures from the comics, the Sith(race) had this really badass space Egyptian aesthetic. It'd have been awesome if they kept with that instead of dovetailing into "That's from a movie! I've seen it before!"(I really love ancient Egypt and Arabia in general and I want to see more stuff based on them.  )
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