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Quorum posted:Don't most malls and things already have unisex bathrooms, in the form of those "family bathrooms"? They handily solve the problems of trans people who want a bathroom nobody will yell at them about, moms who want a space to change their baby's diaper, and people with terminal poop shyness, without much fuss! It makes me smile every time I see a family bathroom because bigots so frequently use the word "Family" as a dog whistle for their beliefs, and it's being used to facilitate transgender bathrooms. We're taking that word back! greatn posted:I dunno I remember a shocking amount of parliamentary procedure in those movies The only thing those scenes were missing was a point where the chairman asks for a second to a motion, and then has to ask again because no one said "second" and then like three people say "second" all at the same time. Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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Shageletic posted:This made me look up Bail Organa, and apparently he did this in the prequel movies This just tells me that the chair of the Galactic Senate was a moron. How hard is it to figure out you can delay with a quorum call?
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Zoran posted:That didn't happen in the movies. Have you heard that they're making a fourth one?
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Quorum posted:Don't most malls and things already have unisex bathrooms, in the form of those "family bathrooms"? They handily solve the problems of trans people who want a bathroom nobody will yell at them about, moms who want a space to change their baby's diaper, and people with terminal poop shyness, without much fuss! Not really because now instead of saying "you're a man" or "you're a woman" it's "you're a weirdo who has to use the weirdo bathroom for weirdos."
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quote:How they got their powers is a story left untold. Female healers are a storytelling staple - we just don't tell the story of them seeking to master their craft or struggling with the knowledge that their failures harm others. Let it goooo....
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Oct 30, 2015 15:22
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greatn posted:I dunno I remember a shocking amount of parliamentary procedure in those movies And it all sucked. I don't give a poo poo about senatorial decorum in Star Wars, somebody please pull out a blaster.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:22
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Oh right, it's time for Halloween-themed campaign memes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3aRFEtnv0
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Oct 30, 2015 15:23
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Litany Unheard posted:Bathrooms are HEAVILY monitored and policed by the populace. Going into the wrong bathroom can actually be life-threatening for a transgender person.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:25
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Riosan posted:And it all sucked. I don't give a poo poo about senatorial decorum in Star Wars, somebody please pull out a blaster. I wish there had been more. When I saw the crawl in The Phantom Menace and it mentioned a trade dispute, I did a fist pump. I was still disappointed. Why was the Trade Federation blockading Naboo? Also, not surprising that Republicans hate Bail Organa, considering he was once elected President of the United States as a Democrat.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:26
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Riosan posted:And it all sucked. I don't give a poo poo about senatorial decorum in Star Wars, somebody please pull out a blaster. It's amazing that the lightsaber fight in the senate managed to be almost as bad as the actual debate scenes. It only comes out ahead because Jarjar isn't there.
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Shifty Pony posted:
People are really weird about restrooms and it pisses me off. Like, I generally like single-gender restrooms because I'm shy about making GBS threads right next to a gorgeous stranger--but there is nothing threatening about someone using an 'inappropriate' restroom. So loving stupid.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:27
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Ashcans posted:It's amazing that the lightsaber fight in the senate managed to be almost as bad as the actual debate scenes. It only comes out ahead because Jarjar isn't there. Right? How do you gently caress up Yoda vs. Palpatine? The two of them should've destroyed the entire senate chamber with crazy force magic and lightsabers.
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Joementum posted:I wish there had been more. When I saw the crawl in The Phantom Menace and it mentioned a trade dispute, I did a fist pump. I was still disappointed. Why was the Trade Federation blockading Naboo? The TPP has some very strong provisions about members that don't allow corporations to use the most favorable regulations.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:29
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I came across loads of unisex coed bathrooms while I was in Europe where it was basically just stalls and everyone used them. The obsession over gender is attached to our fun American hang-ups about boys 'n girls sexin' just by being close to each other.
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Joementum posted:Why was the Trade Federation blockading Naboo? IIRC from wookiepedia it was to protest a tax.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:40
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Did you ever see the original drafts of episode 4? They were incomprehensible political gobbledygook and that's what comes out when Lucas has no filter.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:42
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Combed Thunderclap posted:I came across loads of unisex coed bathrooms while I was in Europe where it was basically just stalls and everyone used them. The obsession over gender is attached to our fun American hang-ups about boys 'n girls sexin' just by being close to each other. Abstinence only education is very common in the United States, as are confusing sex/flower analogies.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:47
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Yeah I think the general consensus is that the biggest reason the prequels were terrible is that by that point Lucas was a cult hero and didn't have people to edit him and override him when he was being dumb. The original trilogy was a collaboration, the prequels were all Lucas (as were the dumb things he added when he redid the originals).
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Oct 30, 2015 15:48
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Naboo's actually an example of the whole Republic vs Democracy thing that sometimes comes up: Amidala was a queen, which meant that Naboo might not have had a Legislative / Executive branch that she would answer to or limit her powers, but at the same time she was elected to be a queen, which means Naboo is technically a Republic since the selection of the next monarch is not by birth, even if the head-of-state does have monarchical powers.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:54
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gradenko_2000 posted:Naboo's actually an example of the whole Republic vs Democracy thing that sometimes comes up: Amidala was a queen, which meant that Naboo might not have had a Legislative / Executive branch that she would answer to or limit her powers, but at the same time she was elected to be a queen, which means Naboo is technically a Republic since the selection of the next monarch is not by birth, even if the head-of-state does have monarchical powers. And also, apparently Amidala introduced term limits on the monarchy. Meanwhile, Alderaan was also an elective monarchy, but their Crown Prince / Princess was voted on by the noble houses, so it worked more like the Holy Roman Empire. And these worlds participated in a Galactic Republic, which really functioned as a confederacy.
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I'm surprised that a show in the 90s figured out bathrooms, and that was Ally McBeal. Luigi Thirty posted:Did you ever see the original drafts of episode 4? They were incomprehensible political gobbledygook and that's what comes out when Lucas has no filter. From everything I heard, the editors saved Episode 4. There was so much cut content from original principle photography (and a bit of it made it back into the Special Edition). I wonder how people would have reacted had they kept the Luke & Biggs on Tatooine scene in there.
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Ashcans posted:It's amazing that the lightsaber fight in the senate managed to be almost as bad as the actual debate scenes. It only comes out ahead because Jarjar isn't there. Zeroisanumber posted:Right? How do you gently caress up Yoda vs. Palpatine? The two of them should've destroyed the entire senate chamber with crazy force magic and lightsabers. Even as a child, I knew that Yoda flipping around waving a tiny lightsaber was laughably cringe worthy. Particularly in Attack of the Clones.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Not really because now instead of saying "you're a man" or "you're a woman" it's "you're a weirdo who has to use the weirdo bathroom for weirdos." Another problem would be mandating buildings to have them. People still bitch about needing to pay for wheelchair access. Also about the relative grossness of gendered bathrooms: While working at a restaurant I'd have to clean ours from time to time. The men's always looked bad, but the women's always smelled worse.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:59
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Joementum posted:Unisex bathrooms was one of the main complaints of Phyllis Schlafly's STOP ERA campaign, along with women in combat and gay marriage. Gods wounds I am looking forward to when everything this hateful lady campaigned against comes into being. I hope she is still alive to see it.
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Most people forget that George Lucas was married to Marcia Lou Griffin who is a brilliant editor/ filmmaker who won one of the six Oscars for Star Wars. She also was credited with Han Solo and Leia being a couple and the love triangle between Luke, Han, and Leia. Also a lot of the ideas surrounding Star Wars were actually hers. Basically she and another guy who's name I forget always pushed for more personsal stories and involvements which is what makes the first 3 films so great.
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Oct 30, 2015 16:00
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Jazerus posted:He was B is really really the issue here. I was at a convention that had him as the keynote speaker in 2013 - 12 years after the event and 5 after he was last running for office. He spent an hour and a half talking, and the only subjects he touched on were 9/11 and Obama Bad. He didn't even bring up being mayor of New York (to a bunch of New Yorkers) except in the context of 9/11. It was bad enough that a room full of old, white conservatives in the finance sector thought he was boring and uninteresting.
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evilweasel posted:Yeah I think the general consensus is that the biggest reason the prequels were terrible is that by that point Lucas was a cult hero and didn't have people to edit him and override him when he was being dumb. The original trilogy was a collaboration, the prequels were all Lucas (as were the dumb things he added when he redid the originals). edit: only downside of the Despecialized Edition is for some reason they kept the old explosions, which are real bad. Don't know why they did that. Kafka Esq. fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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"There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else! There's nothing else!" - Joe Biden, on Rudy Giuliani
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Lucas adding that stupid song piece to Jabba's lair when redoing the originals always sticks with me as particularly blatant and I'm not even a real fan of the series.
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gradenko_2000 posted:"There's only three things he mentions in a sentence -- a noun, a verb, and 9/11. There's nothing else! There's nothing else!" - Joe Biden, on Rudy Giuliani  "Give me a noun!" "Bush" "and a verb" "did"
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FAUXTON posted:Lucas adding that stupid song piece to Jabba's lair when redoing the originals always sticks with me as particularly blatant and I'm not even a real fan of the series. Laserdisc version best version
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Laserdisc version best version my man
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Hollismason posted:Most people forget that George Lucas was married to Marcia Lou Griffin who is a brilliant editor/ filmmaker who won one of the six Oscars for Star Wars. She also was credited with Han Solo and Leia being a couple and the love triangle between Luke, Han, and Leia. Also a lot of the ideas surrounding Star Wars were actually hers. I think the differences are best captured in the final fights of both series (Luke vs. Vader and Annikin vs. Obi Wan). They are both the final duels that the three movies have been leading to, there is a lot of personal drama involved, the whole scenes are even roughly the same length. But they are so incredibly different. The OT duel is a lot of character stuff, Luke getting suckered into an attack, trying to avoid fighting, getting taunted by Vader, building up to the eventual turn by Vader. The actual fighting is pretty sparse, but when it happens it has a lot of weight (Luke and Vader on the gantry, for instance, is awesome even if the choreography isn't remarkable). The prequel duel though is like three lines of canned dialogue and then an interminable amount of backflipping in various setpieces before Obi wan wins and runs away crying. It's so bland that I completely forgot that there was a section where they surf on a lava river.
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Haystack posted:Offhand? Million Dollar Baby. Which... is also a tragedy about an ambitious woman getting randomly murdered by the universe after ignoring the misgivings of her gruff father figure. Hmmm. I see your point. Does dancing count? I would think there's a few movies about dancers. Besides Black Swan.
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Kafka Esq. posted:Despecialized Edition 2.5 plus Machete order (4,5,2,3,6) is all you need to make Star Wars watchable again. Because they're the despecialized editions. The whole point is purity to the original.
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Oct 30, 2015 16:27
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Riosan posted:Even as a child, I knew that Yoda flipping around waving a tiny lightsaber was laughably cringe worthy. Particularly in Attack of the Clones. You take that back!
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Speaking of evil empires, we're sending special forces to Syria to fight ISIS.
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Yoda throwing down is pretty much the best loving thing and if you can't enjoy that you have no joy left in your life.
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Fix posted:Because they're the despecialized editions. The whole point is purity to the original. Star Wars cannot fail, it can only be failed.
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