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Raged posted:Wooo BP exploit is dead!! Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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What do they mean with tweaked barrel spawns? Is it no longer possible to do BP legit by rushing through it quickly?Musluk posted:There was another exploit that worked on most of the levels, let me see if it's still working. As it's fixed, what was it?
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Oct 30, 2015 11:16
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victrix posted:They're going to continue to stick a limited number of fingers into an endless number of leaky holes until they address the root cause of this behavior. In any system that involves loot or rewards you are going to have people trying to game the system and/or work out the most efficient path to loot and do nothing but that. They can try to minimize this in various ways but there will always be those types of people, and personally I'd rather not have devs changing the way the game works because of people like that. Spergs are gonna sperg no matter what. To be fair I agree that the loot system isn't close to perfect, but from everything the devs have been saying it seems like they will be adjusting or modifying it at some point, if only to do something with oranges and make room for red weapons. The devs have also been very active so far, I'm looking forward to seeing what they will come up with down the road.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:22
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Yesterday evening I've met a random guy that was really competent, for once. He was also a supporter of "please no exploits, they're boring". We've managed to run almost all the maps on Hard (we skipped BP, Well, White Rat and W&C), getting 3 tomes and 1/2 grims every time they were available and wiping ONCE (on Horn, of all maps). The remaining 2 slots were other random rotating pubbies as well. Now I have mostly blues in every slot and I've even broke the trinket curse (got a green 10% heal myself on healing others one). It's the first time I've actually added someone as a Steam friend after a game. On the other hand, 2 days ago I've ran 2 games with pubbies and we've managed to get wiped twice on Smugglers Normal 
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Oct 30, 2015 11:24
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Dezztroy posted:What do they mean with tweaked barrel spawns? Is it no longer possible to do BP legit by rushing through it quickly? I'm going to guess that blowing up the barrel makes it spawn in the same place, so you can't teleport barrels around. Not that it matters much if they fixed the entire pathing thing, but whatever.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:24
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Do you guys know why it sometimes delays taking out a bomb and lighting it?
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Oct 30, 2015 11:29
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Exploitation. Exploitation never changes...
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Oct 30, 2015 11:32
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Syrant posted:Exploitation. Exploitation never changes... sadly it does not as people are using the other beam of the horn now in magnus 
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Oct 30, 2015 11:33
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This game is fun. Killing rats is great. Can't wait for the Necromunda version.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:37
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Dezztroy posted:As it's fixed, what was it? It was a bug with bright wizard pushing enemies into some kinds of geometry that broke the AI for the rest of the map. Why bright wizard? I dunno, 
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Oct 30, 2015 11:39
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The exploiting isn't caused by the loot system. Even if the loot was not random and you could pick from one item on a list that was created depending on how well you did, people would still exploit because it is easier and guarantees loot. It's a player problem, not a problem with the system. If loot is all people play for then they will find a way to get it as fast and easily as possible. Just laugh at anyone that tries to exploit then boot em from the group.
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Oct 30, 2015 11:42
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toasterwarrior posted:Skill: Consume Alcohol WFRP skills are more like specialisations. Checks are always rolling against your stat (Toughness in this case, IIRC), the skills are narrow cases where you get a bonus to the stat for the purpose of checking against it.
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Oct 30, 2015 12:20
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I was playing last night and everything froze up and then reset the level for us but switched all our characters around. I was playing Hunter and then restarted as BW (who I've never played and proceeded to do awful as). Was this a crash or did the host reset the game or something? No one seemed to get disconnected.
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Oct 30, 2015 12:36
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Doing a gardens of Morr run and right as you get into the citadel of Morr there's a small staircase you do a blind turn into with a pit all around. I ran forward with my sword ready just to be immediately pounced by a gutter runner, which threw all 3 companions clear into the abyss or hanging on to the edge. 3 tome 2 grimoire run over. Not even mad, but ugh.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:01
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Can you block a gutter runner pounce or does he only back off when damaged?
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Oct 30, 2015 13:03
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Mr Cuddles posted:Can you block a gutter runner pounce or does he only back off when damaged? only when damaged. Metos posted:Doing a gardens of Morr run and right as you get into the citadel of Morr there's a small staircase you do a blind turn into with a pit all around. I ran forward with my sword ready just to be immediately pounced by a gutter runner, which threw all 3 companions clear into the abyss or hanging on to the edge. 3 tome 2 grimoire run over. Lol if you cant laugh at that
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Oct 30, 2015 13:07
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Any kind of attack staggers a gutter runner, including the push.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:08
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I've definitely hit a gutter runner in the face last night with my two-handed mace, and shot another both in mid-leap. It helps if you have room to strafe dodge.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:10
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Joined a game, they told me they'd kicked the elf. A few seconds before I got in the map I heard someone say "Wait, what?!" over VOIP. I'd like to think it was the elf.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:22
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Al Borland posted:sadly it does not as people are using the other beam of the horn now in magnus Honestly the beams should just cause continuous ratling gunners.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:33
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Mr Cuddles posted:Can you block a gutter runner pounce or does he only back off when damaged? If you're fast enough you can block-bash him and then chain hit him to stop him from smokebombing.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:34
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xthetenth posted:Honestly the beams should just cause continuous ratling gunners. Speaking of, when I was doing BP runs, I found if you stall at the start and no one jumps down for a bit the game throws specials at you. A lot of specials. It started out as 1 rat gunner after another, then it turned to two at a time, then a gas rat joins in. Before you knew it we were fighting off a horde of specials. It was pretty fun.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:38
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Desperately want a Dark Elf Corsair with a ridiculous Canadian accent.
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Oct 30, 2015 13:44
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If you can see a Gutter Runner from far away (IE: plaza in Horn), you can just wait for it to pounce towards you and blast it to pieces with an handgun/crossbow/staff. It will interrupt his jump (and kill him, at lower difficulties); it's quite easy to hit him this way, if you're not in the middle of an ambush, cause it will always pounce in a straight line.
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Oct 30, 2015 14:00
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Lemon Curdistan posted:WFRP skills are more like specialisations. Checks are always rolling against your stat (Toughness in this case, IIRC), the skills are narrow cases where you get a bonus to the stat for the purpose of checking against it. Do note that WFRP actually has a subsystem for binge drinking, as characters are expected to get mad drunk, so that is a very important skill to have!
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Oct 30, 2015 14:13
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PantsOptional posted:Desperately want a Dark Elf Corsair with a ridiculous Canadian accent. Alternatively, http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Long_Drong%27s_Slayer_Pirates 
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Oct 30, 2015 14:28
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Did he literally shot himself in the foot, or is the position of the pistol just an unfortunate coincidence? I'd also mock the 2 pistols 1 hand thing, but the Witch Hunter exists.
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Oct 30, 2015 14:42
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hooman posted:Kerillian: *sharp hiss* *whimper* She's working with the Rats, I knew it.
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Oct 30, 2015 14:46
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Fishstick posted:Alternatively, http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Long_Drong%27s_Slayer_Pirates Let's do both. Psychotic dwarven pirate and hockey elf.
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Oct 30, 2015 14:48
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Fishstick posted:Alternatively, http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Long_Drong%27s_Slayer_Pirates Please tell me that's a peg-leg cannon and/or mace
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Oct 30, 2015 15:01
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Dezztroy posted:Please tell me that's a peg-leg cannon and/or mace totally a cannon / some kind of gun. some ogres have cannons for legs / arms too. Al Borland fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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Oct 30, 2015 15:21
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Dorf: Takes effort to miss with one of those Satlzpyre: Careful or I'll throw the next one at you.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:32
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There is an awful lot of stuff modeled behind the escape carriage in Wizard's Tower. Like all kinds of buildings and ground and even around a couple corners you would never ever see unless a packmaster clips you out of the wagon and drags you out of the map and get hosed kid gently caress your tome and gently caress your grimoire.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:34
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I really enjoy they did that, the world doesn't have many spots where you can see the level just ends. Except for when a sneak rat bugs you and you are floating down and through the skybox.
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Oct 30, 2015 15:43
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Well with black powder fixed now everyone has to learn how to Cheat Engine grimoires if they want oranges  For those so inclined I can post the method or PM it to you.
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Oct 30, 2015 16:50
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What's weird is that last night, I ran BP with two different pub groups (on hard) who were doing it legit. The one group that had two of them that seemed to know each other were using it as a benchmark for "is this random dude going to be a dumbass shithead" before launching into a longer campaign. It was a generally a fun, chill time, and while I didn't get an orange, I'm okay with that. Pubs aren't always the terrible wasteland people here make it, and I'm getting more competitive in this game as I get better. e: Also did get kicked from a pub group for dying on the finale of Wizard Tower after I'd res'd everyone (except the BW who was kicking rear end) in the finale at least once and used my medkit on the soldier who had a blunderbuss and had died several times before, so. Sometimes they are dumbshits, though at that point I was also starting to play badly. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Oct 30, 2015 |
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Oct 30, 2015 16:55
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To break away from jokes for a second, pubbies aren't bad, they are just very inconsistent. It helps that VOIP has been improved, as well as the people in the high levels of difficulty generally being more competent than Scrubs McPubbie in normal. There isn't anything wrong with doing a quick pub match, you are just rolling the dice with who you get. As they say, the only difference between a pubbie and a goon is 
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Oct 30, 2015 17:04
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Sigmar help me I'm starting to like playing the elf. A bow with Headshot is just too drat useful
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DreamShipWrecked posted:To break away from jokes for a second, pubbies aren't bad, they are just very inconsistent. It helps that VOIP has been improved, as well as the people in the high levels of difficulty generally being more competent than Scrubs McPubbie in normal. There isn't anything wrong with doing a quick pub match, you are just rolling the dice with who you get. As someone who's played games with goons for a while I'd say it's less the and more the communication. Goons in groups trounce other games/players because Teamwork Is OP.Of course we're elitist jerks so you gotta pay your to support the forums, but really there's nothing stopping players in other games coordinating like goons do...well besides human nature. 
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Alkydere posted:As someone who's played games with goons for a while I'd say it's less the Just don't try to play EVE if you just joined.
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