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Joementum posted:TFW you're eating eggs and some guy won't shut up about radical Islam. I wonder if the people of Iowa and New Hampshire know how cool it is to get to talk to candidates one on one? I mean, that's the man that should thirteen or so simultaneous wacky accidents strike gets to be crushed by a horrified public in the general. You just can't put a price on that.
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There's a big space open on the Republican side for a realistic critique of the Obama / Clinton foreign policy, which has neither been definable nor particularly effective. But they're all so wed to the neoconservative fever dream that building a thousand aircraft carriers will somehow deter Putin that they have to resort to name-calling.
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Jeb! needs to go back on Tumblr and blog about not having enough spoons or w/e introverts with fibromyalgia are supposed to do
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gradenko_2000 posted:So, still theoretically possible, then. I think Jeb! would be a terrible president but I honestly think he is the most qualified to go up against Clinton. Carson/Trump/Cruz would be utter disasters from the Republican party and probably have a major effect on down tickets, Clinton would chew up Rubio and it would probably cause serious harm to the Republican brand so honestly where does that leave them at the convention?
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Three Olives posted:I think Jeb! would be a terrible president but I honestly think he is the most qualified to go up against Clinton. Carson/Trump/Cruz would be utter disasters from the Republican party and probably have a major effect on down tickets, Clinton would chew up Rubio and it would probably cause serious harm to the Republican brand so honestly where does that leave them at the convention? If Clinton can chew up Rubio, Jeb! wouldn't even slow her down. Honestly Trump, with all his faults, is probably the most electable Republican. His only insanity is narcissism and he has good fighter's instincts. Their real choice is Kasich but he's too moderate for the base and is tarred with the Lehman Brothers brush ( much like O'Malley is tarred by The Wire). What's really going on is two separate parties trying to pick a unifying candidate. But any candidate the Tea Party likes is too radical for the Republicans and vice versa.
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Oct 30, 2015 17:08
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Joementum posted:There's a big space open on the Republican side for a realistic critique of the Obama / Clinton foreign policy, which has neither been definable nor particularly effective. You mean a critique of Obama's drone program... from the left???
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Rush just said: "Our foreign policy is so incompetent I think Jeb's campaign is running it."
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Joementum posted:TFW you're eating eggs and some guy won't shut up about radical Islam. They didn't tell me they let the spring chickens out of the hen house! All jokes aside I'd like to talk with you about the greatest danger our nation has ever faced. Should I grab some Mimosas or Bloody Marys before we start?
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Three Olives posted:I think Jeb! would be a terrible president but I honestly think he is the most qualified to go up against Clinton. Carson/Trump/Cruz would be utter disasters from the Republican party and probably have a major effect on down tickets, Clinton would chew up Rubio and it would probably cause serious harm to the Republican brand so honestly where does that leave them at the convention? I think Jeb! has one of the worst matchups. Like it not there's going to be people talking about political "dynasties" with Clinton in the race and Jeb! is the only one who can't take advantage of that, in fact he'd be rightfully regarded as worse than her in that regard. This is in addition to his obvious incompetence at campaigning.
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Joementum posted:There's a big space open on the Republican side for a realistic critique of the Obama / Clinton foreign policy, which has neither been definable nor particularly effective. There is also a love of hyperbole that does them no favors. Instead of "Russia's influence has been allowed to increase, as has Iran's, and rather than increase stability in the Middle East our policies have actually further destabilized the region" it's always "WE ARE LIVING IN A TIME OF CRISIS AND CATASTROPHE, AND OBAMA IS SURRENDERING TO OUR MORTAL FOES; WE MUST DECIDE NOW, IF WE WILL CHERISH AMERICA OR SEE HER GROUND INTO DUST."
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If Clinton can chew up Rubio, Jeb! wouldn't even slow her down. Honestly Trump, with all his faults, is probably the most electable Republican. His only insanity is narcissism and he has good fighter's instincts. Which means what we already knew. Republicans are simply not electable. And when they accept this they'll have to cut off their gangrene teaparty legs. The house gains haven't been worth it it only gave them the freedom caucus.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Yup, this is happening Montasque posted:Rush just said: "Our foreign policy is so incompetent I think Jeb's campaign is running it."  Wow, that's Rush straight-up comparing Jeb! with Obama. There can be no greater insult.
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Three Olives posted:I think Jeb! would be a terrible president but I honestly think he is the most qualified to go up against Clinton. Carson/Trump/Cruz would be utter disasters from the Republican party and probably have a major effect on down tickets, Clinton would chew up Rubio and it would probably cause serious harm to the Republican brand so honestly where does that leave them at the convention? The "benefit" of Jeb! winning the nod would be that down ballot GOP candidates could bad mouth their own candidate and blame his insufficient conservatism for the eventual thrashing by Hillary. At this point Jebs greatest value would being an effective fall guy to shield conservatism. Sort of the role Boehner has played this last year.
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And just when I was starting to feel kind of bad for Jeb!. Yes, Jeb!, nuance in foreign policy is always bad and never good. You got it.
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Peztopiary posted:I wonder if the people of Iowa and New Hampshire know how cool it is to get to talk to candidates one on one? I mean, that's the man that should thirteen or so simultaneous wacky accidents strike gets to be crushed by a horrified public in the general. You just can't put a price on that. I've had Jon Huntsman, The Newtinator, and Lindsay "Warmachine" Graham all come to my place of work. I'm sure this year we could have had more, but the new company president considers the visits a distraction. It's pretty nifty, but we will be forgotten the next day after the primary, and our four electors will be all we are to the general election. Not really enough to matter regardless of our status as a swing state.
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Mr. Andrew Lack Chairman, NBC News 30 Rockefeller Plaza New York, New York 10112 Dear Mr. Lack, I write to inform you that pending further discussion between the Republican National Committee (RNC) and our presidential campaigns, we are suspending the partnership with NBC News for the Republican primary debate at the University of Houston on February 26, 2016. The RNC’s sole role in the primary debate process is to ensure that our candidates are given a full and fair opportunity to lay out their vision for America’s future. We simply cannot continue with NBC without full consultation with our campaigns. The CNBC network is one of your media properties, and its handling of the debate was conducted in bad faith. We understand that NBC does not exercise full editorial control over CNBC’s journalistic approach. However, the network is an arm of your organization, and we need to ensure there is not a repeat performance. CNBC billed the debate as one that would focus on “the key issues that matter to all voters—job growth, taxes, technology, retirement and the health of our national economy.” That was not the case. Before the debate, the candidates were promised an opening question on economic or financial matters. That was not the case. Candidates were promised that speaking time would be carefully monitored to ensure fairness. That was not the case. Questions were inaccurate or downright offensive. The first question directed to one of our candidates asked if he was running a comic book version of a presidential campaign, hardly in the spirit of how the debate was billed. While debates are meant to include tough questions and contrast candidates’ visions and policies for the future of America, CNBC’s moderators engaged in a series of “gotcha” questions, petty and mean-spirited in tone, and designed to embarrass our candidates. What took place Wednesday night was not an attempt to give the American people a greater understanding of our candidates’ policies and ideas. I have tremendous respect for the First Amendment and freedom of the press. However, I also expect the media to host a substantive debate on consequential issues important to Americans. CNBC did not. While we are suspending our partnership with NBC News and its properties, we still fully intend to have a debate on that day, and will ensure that National Review remains part of it. I will be working with our candidates to discuss how to move forward and will be in touch. Sincerely, Reince Priebus Chairman, Republican National Committee
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Joementum posted:Mr. Andrew Lack
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In which the Chairman of the Republican National Committee defends Donald Trump from a media critique:quote:The first question directed to one of our candidates asked if he was running a comic book version of a presidential campaign, hardly in the spirit of how the debate was billed.
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LIEBRAL MEDIA is now an official Republican position. NICE.
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Joementum posted:Mr. Andrew Lack He's right that the debate was terribly run. Hope NBC hits them for contract damages though.
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Oct 30, 2015 18:00
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Reince trying really hard not to get fired
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Joementum posted:Mr. Andrew Lack I believe he will find the response... lacking.
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Wanna see Anderson Cooper moderate a GOP debate.
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Apparently I have a new av, hopefully it will emphasize that I am Here For the Blood.
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Vox Nihili posted:Wanna see Anderson Cooper moderate a GOP debate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XUN7BfmIpk
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Outstanding. The echo chamber shrinks some more, leading to more delusion and more unskewing of polls and more "nobody I listen to is voting Democrat". The GOP is kettling their own voters. Karl Rove may literally have a heart attack or stroke on-air on election night.
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Why are any of these debates happening anywhere other than Fox News and AM radio?
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Reince is trying desperately to keep the Donald from going off and having his own debate with blackjack and hookers
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Is there anyone who could conduct a GOP debate without widespread claims of liberal or establishment bias? If the questions are lighthearted they get bashed for being unsubstantial, if they dare the challenge someone on policy or past actions its "gotcha" journalism. I mean I agree that the media in general in this country is garbage, but once you start cancelling with the big networks who does it even leave with the thinnest veneer of objectivity? Do we just have Rush and Master Shake audibly fellating Ted Cruz at future debates?
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skaboomizzy posted:Karl Rove may literally have a heart attack or stroke on-air on election night. Hold on, Karl Rove is on Fox News saying that toast may not be burnt quite yet...
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Xenophon posted:how can one man be this bad at politics
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Subvisual Haze posted:Is there anyone who could conduct a GOP debate without widespread claims of liberal or establishment bias? People seemed to be mostly happy with the CNN debate, I think?
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Joementum posted:There's a big space open on the Republican side for a realistic critique of the Obama / Clinton foreign policy, which has neither been definable nor particularly effective. Obama's foreign policy is ineffective, but that's far better than 'complete, unmitigated disaster that will haunt us for decades'.
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Zoran posted:I think I've figured it out. From a couple pages back—I was catching up on the debate post-chat—but this is really great. I'm glad the floundering of the Jeb! campaign has not diminished our dedication to quality pie charts. 
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Phlegmish posted:Obama's foreign policy is ineffective, but that's far better than 'complete, unmitigated disaster that will haunt us for decades'. And that is where, if the GOP had any integrity or grey matter between their ears, they would focus. Instead they seem to just want to carpet bomb the world's problems away.
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