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Blattdorf
Aug 10, 2012

"This will be the best for both of us, Bradley."
"Meow."
fault milestone one is also half off. I read both this and the new part over the weekend, despite buying both at release (the backlog syndrome), but they're very good reads. I'm so hooked on this series, that I can't wait for the next part!

They also really like to experiment with the VN format to make the presentation that much more, as they say, cinematic. As I said in the Steam thread, I don't have a :staredog: big enough to express how I felt during certain parts in the story, and I mean this in a good way.

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FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Blattdorf posted:

fault milestone one is also half off. I read both this and the new part over the weekend, despite buying both at release (the backlog syndrome), but they're very good reads. I'm so hooked on this series, that I can't wait for the next part!

They also really like to experiment with the VN format to make the presentation that much more, as they say, cinematic. As I said in the Steam thread, I don't have a :staredog: big enough to express how I felt during certain parts in the story, and I mean this in a good way.
I like it a lot too.

They're not dark or shocking games in general, but when they do want to sell you on something they really go for it.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:




Cover art for Steins;Gate 0. Release was subject to change and got delayed to December in Japan.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Okabe looks like he's seen some poo poo. Which to be fair, he has.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

The latest Humble Weekly sale is focused on VNs. Hatoful Boyfriend for 1$ is a steal for anyone who hasn't picked it up yet, and The Royal Trap in the BTA tier is pretty great, too, by the same lady who did Long Live the Queen. It's 100% a traditional VN (no stats or anything) but if you wanted more well-written medieval fantasy political intrigue it's definitely worth a read.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Am I really going to have to be the first to mention the Muv Luv kickstarter? They're releasing on Steam, so the All-Ages version will be available in English for the first time. drat good reason to go through it again next year.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
It got a lot of traction in the Kickstarter thread, which went about as well as you'd expect.

Personally I think Muv-Luv is overrated but I'm glad it's coming out.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


I'm just happy most of the content other than the actual two games are going to be translated. I've heard bad things about Total Eclipse, but I'm still hopeful that it gets translated soon.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
The more big successful VN Kickstarters, the more companies in Japan will finally be willing to take the plunge. I just wish they would hurry up and get Clannad out so everyone can buy it and Key can decide it's about time to give us everything else they've got to offer. It still pisses me off that they decided to test the waters with Planetarian of all things since it's nothing like any of their other games.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Just in case anyone reading this hasn't already played Virtue's Last Reward, it's currently on sale for :10bux:

AG3
Feb 4, 2004

Ask me about spending hundreds of dollars on Mass Effect 2 emoticons and Avatars.

Oven Wrangler

Getsuya posted:

The more big successful VN Kickstarters, the more companies in Japan will finally be willing to take the plunge. I just wish they would hurry up and get Clannad out so everyone can buy it and Key can decide it's about time to give us everything else they've got to offer. It still pisses me off that they decided to test the waters with Planetarian of all things since it's nothing like any of their other games.

Planetarian was a nice, if a bit depressing read (Key in a nutshell I guess?), but way too short to have any relevance as a benchmark for the viability of VNs in general in the western market. Not to mention that it doesn't even include any branching or choices. It was also fan translated years ago so it wasn't exactly new, not that I think it matters much since the number of people who read it back then is probably so low that it doesn't even make a dent in the sales graph (provided it even sold enough to justify its commercial release).

With Steam getting an increasing number of VNs and a lot of those seeing some decent sales numbers, I think it's only a question of time before more follow regardless of Kickstarter. On the other hand, Kickstarters are nice in that because there's no product yet there's also no piracy to worry about; you know beforehand if you're going to cover your expenses and everything after that is pure profit. I suspect that some of the VNs on Kickstarer see far more money than they would if they had been released straight from the publisher.

AG3 fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Oct 17, 2015

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Speaking of Kickstarter and Clannad, according to an update on the Clannad Kickstarter they're planning to release it in November of this year. I almost feel like buying 2 or 3 copies and gifting them to make up for not having helped out with the Kickstarter since I had no good way to pay for it when it was getting funded. Maybe I'll do a contest or something. I've been kicking around a funny LP/audience participation/contest idea for a while that's VN related.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
I started up Fault Milestone One and I am really enjoying it. I was a little worried when some of the translation in the opening bits seemed a little flat, but it really picks up as it goes along and the intricate world is very immersive. I would almost call this Anime Mistborn, with its deep world setting and weirdly-complex-yet-easy-to-understand magic system. Voices might have made it a bit better, but then again the music is pretty spot-on so I don't really mind that much.

In other VN news, Key has announced a 3rd novel of theirs for Steam, namely Harmonia. Like Planetarian, Harmonia is a kinetic novel so no choices and probably much shorter than a choice-based VN. Hopefully between this and Clannad, which will also be coming out soon, Key sees enough sales through Steam to try for some of their other titles. The fact that Visual Arts now has a US branch is heartening since now there is some poor soul whose job it is to make sure they have relevance over here, so keeping a steady flow of games porting is that guy's job security. I'll pick up Harmonia though I'm not sure how excited I am for it since I know basically nothing about it, though to be fair nothing they've made since Clannad has disappointed me so I'm definitely willing to give it a shot.

Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvAU1WmwF7o

Edit: Though the fact that one of the characters has no emotion (or so it says in the trailer) sets off a few warning bells. Every other time Key tried to play the 'no (normal) emotions' card (Planetarian, Air) I didn't really like the end result. Little Busters was is my favorite work of theirs because each of the characters is bursting with personality and all of them are folks I would love to hang out with. That's just me though, and maybe they'll do something with the concept this time to make it a little less forcefully painful.

Getsuya fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Oct 21, 2015

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
I need to burn my GMG credit. I can pay 10 cents for Always the Same Blue Sky. Has anyone here ever tried it?

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
If My Heart Had Wings is currently on sale on Steam for $5.99. If you're not totally pissed off by them taking sex out of the game then you should definitely pick it up, as it is a very highly rated VN.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Getsuya posted:

If My Heart Had Wings is currently on sale on Steam for $5.99. If you're not totally pissed off by them taking sex out of the game then you should definitely pick it up, as it is a very highly rated VN.
I normally stay away from these "average straight dude" romance games, especially ones that used to be porn games, but if it comes that highly recommended, I might give it a look.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Getsuya posted:

If My Heart Had Wings is currently on sale on Steam for $5.99. If you're not totally pissed off by them taking sex out of the game then you should definitely pick it up, as it is a very highly rated VN.

How many people actually care about the porn though? Isn't it just usually completely superfluous?

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Junpei Hyde posted:

How many people actually care about the porn though? Isn't it just usually completely superfluous?

It was mainly split between people who thought any censorship at all was a crime against the game and people who thought Mangagamer took it too far by doing stuff like censoring some references to characters' breasts and having a character bathing alone while wearing a towel to censor what was a nude scene.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

I'm pretty sure most visual novels in japan only have porn so they sell, and then it gets stripped out when the visual novel later gets a name for itself

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Volt Catfish posted:

I'm pretty sure most visual novels in japan only have porn so they sell, and then it gets stripped out when the visual novel later gets a name for itself

It'd be interesting to look into the difference between the PC and console VN market in Japan. There are a lot of titles that go from porn to all-ages when they want to make a console version, but there are also tons of console-only all-ages titles that come out (though recently they've mostly only been anime tie-ins) and there's also apparently a much bigger market for otome games on console than on PC. I was mostly a console VN gamer so I never paid much attention to the porn game market.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Getsuya posted:

It was mainly split between people who thought any censorship at all was a crime against the game and people who thought Mangagamer took it too far by doing stuff like censoring some references to characters' breasts and having a character bathing alone while wearing a towel to censor what was a nude scene.
That actually sounds very encouraging to me. If they looked past the bare minimum "cut only the parts that won't pass Steam cert" and went as far as "cut anything that's only in there for sex appeal", I'm much more optimistic about that game than I was a minute ago.

Pretty funny coming out of a company that's not at all above publishing actual straight-up porn games, though.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Getsuya posted:

It was mainly split between people who thought any censorship at all was a crime against the game and people who thought Mangagamer took it too far by doing stuff like censoring some references to characters' breasts and having a character bathing alone while wearing a towel to censor what was a nude scene.

Apparently they extensively rewrote one character's route from scratch because a lot of her actual plot was based around the sex stuff? idk

FractalSandwich posted:

I normally stay away from these "average straight dude" romance games, especially ones that used to be porn games, but if it comes that highly recommended, I might give it a look.

Eh. I've played through some of it, and it's alright? The protag gets a bit more development than "average straight dude", there's some pretty interesting moments here and there, and the characters have some pretty good chemistry;, but overall it doesn't really do a lot to differentiate itself from the crowd other than a whole lotta words about gliders and flying.

At $7 bucks it's worth a buy for people who like genericish high school love stories I guess? The translation's riddled with grammatical errors, for what it's worth.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Cho Dengeki Stryker is also on sale for half off on Steam, so if over-the-top superhero VNs are more your style it wouldn't hurt to pick it up.

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Getsuya posted:

Cho Dengeki Stryker is also on sale for half off on Steam, so if over-the-top superhero VNs are more your style it wouldn't hurt to pick it up.

How's that one from someone who played it?

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
http://store.steampowered.com/app/383460

Sound of a Drop Fall into Poison is out and slightly discounted for the Halloween sale. Most reviews that have popped up for it say it is a good horror experience, though it is not voiced and has no method for keeping track of what choices you have made already or not. Sounds like it's worth it if you want a horror VN and have already played Higurashi.

Speaking of Higurashi, it's going to be a decade before we get them all at the rate they are going. Hopefully with Umineko they can just use the Witch Hunt translation mostly as-is and get the chapters out faster.

Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.

Getsuya posted:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/383460

Sound of a Drop Fall into Poison is out and slightly discounted for the Halloween sale. Most reviews that have popped up for it say it is a good horror experience, though it is not voiced and has no method for keeping track of what choices you have made already or not. Sounds like it's worth it if you want a horror VN and have already played Higurashi.

No way of tracking your previous choices actually seems like a pretty significant annoyance for a game that has like 30 bad ends in it. Oh well; if I have trouble I can always just look up a guide, I guess.

oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

Saoshyant posted:

How's that one from someone who played it?

It's amusing in a tokatsu show sort of way, not a bad VN. Certainly not at the top tier but it's not bad at all. Writing is fairly decent and there is some humor.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
Time for a bombshell:

https://www.facebook.com/VisualArtsUSA/posts/1507390016245822

Tomoyo After AND Little Busters are coming out in English. Also, according to this post:

http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=Little_Busters

Little Busters, at least, will be released on Steam.

I don't know anything about Tomoyo After beyond it being a spinoff alternate universe sequel to Clannad that was panned for having fetishy sex-scenes that didn't seem to fit in with the sqeaky-clean Clannad image at all. It also had a dungeon-crawler RPG built into it. I imagine the US release will be the clean non-adult version so maybe it'll be good? I don't know. Haven't heard much about it.

Little Busters, on the other hand, is absolute gold. I actually worked on the fan translation that they're using as a base for this release (I translated one of the character's routes) and I think it was a really solid translation. But beyond that it's just such an amazingly good VN. The thing that really sets it apart is the characters. Instead of being about one lonely guy and his harem, it's about a group of friends who have a much more complex and interesting dynamic than most VN harems have. You'll find yourself falling in bromance with the guys just as often as you fall in love with the girls. The plot has some great twists and turns, but the best thing is watching the two main characters change and grow over the multiple routes.

I'm so happy Key finally decided to answer years and years of requests and bring some of their big hits out over here. Hopefully they'll like what they see with the sales and also bring out Rewrite and Angel Beats. The fact that Visual Arts now has a dedicated US branch is heartening, since that means someone's job now depends on being able to keep their stuff relevant in the West.

Anyway, let's celebrate! Little Busters out west!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLDI9QuukGU

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
If it's the ME version (why wouldn't it be, I guess?) I'll probably get LB!. It's alright. Not my favorite Key thing but it was solid enough.

NeverPeriwinkle
Oct 31, 2012

Nate RFB posted:

If it's the ME version (why wouldn't it be, I guess?) I'll probably get LB!. It's alright. Not my favorite Key thing but it was solid enough.

Fruitbat Factory, who's handling the English release of LB!, stated on Twitter that the version they're doing is the Perfect Edition. Basically, that means it's the all-ages version that will include the new character routes (Sasami Sasasegawa, Kanata Futaki, and Saya Tokido) that were originally in Ecstasy (a.k.a. that one porn release Key did) with the porn scenes removed, new voice acting that was originally added to the PSP port, new sprites for a side character in the game, and new CGs.

NeverPeriwinkle fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Nov 1, 2015

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Nate RFB posted:

If it's the ME version (why wouldn't it be, I guess?) I'll probably get LB!. It's alright. Not my favorite Key thing but it was solid enough.

Thing is, between getting Clannad and LB (and Tomoyo After I guess) I think there's a good chance of us getting some of their other stuff if the sales are alright. I don't know if they're going to want to work backward from Clannad, so Air and Kanon might sadly be out of the picture, but I'd love it if Rewrite and Angel Beats made their way over here. I never got around to playing Rewrite but it's supposed to be another really solid Key game, and Angel Beats (from what little I played of it) seemed like exactly what fans of the anime wanted: more Angel Beats.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Rewrite is OK, it's Key's attempt at their own Fate/stay night and some of it works and some of it doesn't. They brought in a bunch of different writers to pen the various scenarios/routes so the quality and tone is a bit inconsistent. Ryukishi07 wrote one for example, and while his route is solid it's also weirdly at odds with the rest of the story in terms of plot holes.

Getting Angel Beats would be great though, though I don't know if the VN for that turned out to be any good. Wasn't it episodic?

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
I think I played through Tomoyo After back in 2005 because she was my favourite Clannad character, and I recall it being not great but still decent. That was 10 years ago so maybe I remember wrong.

Also, looks like it's coming to steam too:

quote:

"The Memorial Edition of Tomoyo After has a differing storyline from the original and contains substantially more text than the aforementioned hentai version."

Has been announced by VisualArts for official release on Steam. It is currently unknown who, if anyone, is their partner for this.

Please look forward to a billion nerds crying censorship, when the edition in question never had any porn in it!

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
Holy poo poo the Muv-Luv kickstarter went gangbusters the last week or so. They'll probably break $1.1 Million.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Finally found the VN thread here :v:

Anyone else play Code:Realize/otoge titles? I want to pretend there more than 2-3 who care about this genre. Also, I'm a fan of the PS Vita for VNs as playing on PC always felt awkward with reading long texts.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Alder posted:

Finally found the VN thread here :v:

Anyone else play Code:Realize/otoge titles? I want to pretend there more than 2-3 who care about this genre. Also, I'm a fan of the PS Vita for VNs as playing on PC always felt awkward with reading long texts.

I play otome games but I have never finished one and I have not played Code:Realize. I am interested in trying out Amnesia on Steam because from what I remember Idea Factory is as good at making otome games as they are bad at making any other type of game. If you have any good recommendations for otome games, English or Japanese, let me know since I've been meaning to get into the genre more seriously.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Getsuya posted:

I play otome games but I have never finished one and I have not played Code:Realize. I am interested in trying out Amnesia on Steam because from what I remember Idea Factory is as good at making otome games as they are bad at making any other type of game. If you have any good recommendations for otome games, English or Japanese, let me know since I've been meaning to get into the genre more seriously.

here's a good list: http://www.englishotomegames.net/list

I own Amnesia but I find that the protagonist is too passive in the story so it's been a slow progress. Otomate (branch of Idea Factory) is one of the better VN devs as a majority of otoge tend to vary in quality from Not Bad to idek. Although, there's mobile games but they are considerably more expensive for story stories/scenes and I don't recommend them.

here's a good summary for a description of common otoge types:

http://cannonette.tumblr.com/post/126751848502/what-is-otome-game-part-1
http://cannonette.tumblr.com/post/131676567102/what-is-otome-game-part-2

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Getsuya posted:

Alternatively, if you can read Japanese, buy the (roughly) $100 four-pack of the whole Infinity series (Never7, Ever 17, Remember11 and 12Riven) and play them all!

(I feel deep shame that I have yet to do this despite being able to)

Would literally sell my legs to get those games in English

Edit on PSP I mean

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Nov 3, 2015

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
I thought 12Riven was the sequel to 12Myst.

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oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

Nate RFB posted:

Holy poo poo the Muv-Luv kickstarter went gangbusters the last week or so. They'll probably break $1.1 Million.

Yeah, they finished with well over 7k backers and $1.25mil. That's crazy for a VN. That said they were very smart about the reward levels. $150 one was very tempting but I will just wait for steam release.

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