|
Hammer/shield is pretty great too though, you send whole rats flying around while getting to bonk em on the head every now and then.
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 01:13
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 13, 2024 21:29 |
|
|
John Dyne posted:A similar question is what the hell the bar by the staff itself means. It doesn't look like it correlates to the indicators, since I can fill up the bar by my staff and vent before hitting the indicators, and that bar stays full. I thought it was a heat indicator for when you're not using the staff but it seems to drain much slower than the overcharge bar. I think that's an indicator for how much heat is in the section that can be vented safely, to let you know when you're in that part and can start running the fire-vent cycle.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 01:14
|
|
|
Yeah, the bar on the weapon indicator is the safe zone.explosivo posted:Hammer/shield is pretty great too though, you send whole rats flying around while getting to bonk em on the head every now and then. Yeah, but Any any shield set can send rats flying and the hammer pulps rat heads far less often than the Axe takes them, it feels like.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 01:17
|
|
|
The one handed hammer for the dorf is amazing. Fast attack that deals a bunch of damage that sends rats flying.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 01:20
|
|
|
There is nothing funnier than having a vermin swarm come up over the walls on Ramparts at you as a shield character. Just send all the rats right back off the wall in a great waterfall of squeaking.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 01:22
|
|
|
I admit, I sometimes do stupid things and overextend myself in an attempt to shield-push rats off cliffs. They make such amusing screams as they fall. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 01:23
|
|
|
Nothing kills Stormvermin like sheer drop.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 01:51
|
|
|
PSA: do you see multiple stormvermin (like 3) running in to engage you while fighting a horde? Just loving bomb them, save the time and life. To be fair I've really only seen this happen on the crescendo events and Wheat and Chaff though.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:08
|
|
|
PSA: Always check behind you. Like, make a habit of it. Too many goons I've grouped with just like sprint ahead and ignore anything that's past. This isn't L4D - those 2 - 3 random clanrats chasing us WILL stab you in the butt at the worst time, or make the guy at the back of the group lose health dealing with it. Always be checkin your butts and killing rats that chase.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:31
|
|
|
Fishstick posted:PSA: Always check behind you. Like, make a habit of it. Too many goons I've grouped with just like sprint ahead and ignore anything that's past. This isn't L4D - those 2 - 3 random clanrats chasing us WILL stab you in the butt at the worst time, or make the guy at the back of the group lose health dealing with it. Always be checkin your butts and killing rats that chase. Yeah real talk keeping things off your rear end is way more important in this than in L4D. If I recall, you could maybe outrun the infected in L4D, but these loving skaven can and will run your rear end down. Better to deal with them now than later.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:34
|
|
|
I swear I saw someone playing Markus last night and he had some kind of skull-face-helmet-thing going on. I haven't seen any images of it elsewhere.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:37
|
|
|
Syrant posted:I swear I saw someone playing Markus last night and he had some kind of skull-face-helmet-thing going on. I haven't seen any images of it elsewhere. Yep there's a death knight of morr helmet.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:38
|
|
|
Rayjenkins posted:Yeah real talk keeping things off your rear end is way more important in this than in L4D. If I recall, you could maybe outrun the infected in L4D, but these loving skaven can and will run your rear end down. Better to deal with them now than later. I believe they actually speed up if they're behind you. Skaven love stabbin' backs.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:40
|
|
|
xthetenth posted:Yep there's a death knight of morr helmet. Kruber's entire regiment was wiped out by a necromancer casting Purple Sun. I'm pretty sure Kruber personally gutted the bastard.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:43
|
|
|
Night10194 posted:I believe they actually speed up if they're behind you. It is very easy to lose someone who's only slightly behind because he keeps getting hit by random chasers - especially on 'escape' parts of missions (Ramparts, Enemy Below, etc). Don't ignore that poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:46
|
|
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:I admit, I sometimes do stupid things and overextend myself in an attempt to shield-push rats off cliffs. They make such amusing screams as they fall. One of the funniest moments I had in the beta was on Supply and Demand when I lagged behind slightly at the burning grain silo. Half the team is already on the top floor as I enter the silo and someone kicks a clanrat down from there. I just hear this long scream, look up and get to watch the Clanrat fall the last few meters and go splat on the ground right in front of me. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:48
|
|
|
Syrant posted:I swear I saw someone playing Markus last night and he had some kind of skull-face-helmet-thing going on. I haven't seen any images of it elsewhere. Might've been me. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:56
|
|
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:Might've been me. MEDIOCRE
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 02:57
|
|
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:Might've been me. Good to see Rattleshirt is still finding work in the fantasy genre.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 03:01
|
|
|
Witch hunters, elves, bright wizards, and drakefire dwarves make good rearguard checkers because of the easy, cheap ranged weaponry so if you're playing one of those just keep an eye on the back and tossing shots back. BW especially because the fireball can clue the rearmost person to spin around, too.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 03:28
|
|
|
Ravenfood posted:Witch hunters, elves, bright wizards, and drakefire dwarves make good rearguard checkers because of the easy, cheap ranged weaponry so if you're playing one of those just keep an eye on the back and tossing shots back. BW especially because the fireball can clue the rearmost person to spin around, too. Literally anyone makes a good rearguard, if they're actually looking. Not making GBS threads on you, just saying that if anyone at all is actually paying attention and communicating while doing rearguard duty, then you're golden. Personally, I'm partial to the BW with beam staff, or a dwarf with a grudge-raker and +100% ammo mag size.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 03:32
|
|
|
Fishstick posted:PSA: Always check behind you. Like, make a habit of it. Too many goons I've grouped with just like sprint ahead and ignore anything that's past. This isn't L4D - those 2 - 3 random clanrats chasing us WILL stab you in the butt at the worst time, or make the guy at the back of the group lose health dealing with it. Always be checkin your butts and killing rats that chase. They literally spawn directly behind you half the time it is the dumbest loving thing
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 03:32
|
|
|
Coolguye posted:They literally spawn directly behind you half the time They don't? They spawn in the periphery, but you have plenty of time to react. Nothing to blame but yourself.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 03:37
|
|
|
Why does the join on player or accept invite not work anymore? Even though I tell it not to, it always loads the launcher. Then the launcher does not load the game I tried to join. And I have to watch the intro. And also I have to rejoin and reload the inn again.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 03:50
|
|
|
You can skip the intro movie by holding enter or space.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 03:52
|
|
|
Rayjenkins posted:They don't? They spawn in the periphery, but you have plenty of time to react. Nothing to blame but yourself. Yeah they most certainly do. They also do what you said but surprise surprise spawns are hosed right up in a bunch of places.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 04:10
|
|
|
Nightmare W&C, Nightmare White Rat 
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 04:21
|
|
|
I got myself a master crafted repeater pistol and I can confirm what everyone in the thread says: the repeater pistol is hot garbage. If the elf shortbow is the pistol from Doom, the repeater pistol is an unberserked fist.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 04:23
|
|
|
Rayjenkins posted:They don't? They spawn in the periphery, but you have plenty of time to react. Nothing to blame but yourself. You can actually watch them spawn in Directly where you were standing not more than a second ago when you look backwards sometimes. So, yes, they do. They will quite literally pop into existence from nothing within stab range of your anus. Pucker up.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 04:25
|
|
|
grimcreaper posted:You can actually watch them spawn in Directly where you were standing not more than a second ago when you look backwards sometimes. So, yes, they do. They will quite literally pop into existence from nothing within stab range of your anus. Pucker up. That's different from spawning behind you in a hidden fashion. I won't deny that they might spawn in front of you. This game is certainly not perfect. My point is more that you should keep an eye behind you. I won't defend the spawning mechanics in the game, but I will state that you can guard against them easily.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 04:46
|
|
|
Trueflight bow is giving me grief. Like, there's 300 rats, and I don't care about any of them. There's a ratling gunner on a roof killing everyone. I need to hit him, specifically. I lock on, he is glowing red as the god damned sun, my arrow goes 20 feet out and turns hard right to do loop de loops around the rear end in a top hat common nobody rats between us. What the gently caress is this bow even for if not specifically hitting the thing that's lit up?
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 05:09
|
|
|
look the arrow has ADD and an urge to kill
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 05:49
|
|
|
I know its trash anyways, but apparently the increased zoom trait doesn't even work, judging by these two green handguns I have for the soldier.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 05:50
|
|
|
Gimnbo posted:I got myself a master crafted repeater pistol and I can confirm what everyone in the thread says: the repeater pistol is hot garbage. If the elf shortbow is the pistol from Doom, the repeater pistol is an unberserked fist. Is that the one for Kruber? I got that the other day and I'm pretty sure I hate it. No damage to speak of and it doesn't ever seem to hit anything.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 06:41
|
|
|
PantsOptional posted:Is that the one for Kruber? I got that the other day and I'm pretty sure I hate it. No damage to speak of and it doesn't ever seem to hit anything. For the Witch Hunter. It's even worse than Kruber's.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 06:47
|
|
|
The obnoxious thing is that in theory the repeaters should be very good horde shooters and if you get bloodlust or regrowth on them (or better, both) they'd be utterly fantastic for regenerating a little health in between set pieces. Their alt fire fucks up specials pretty nicely from up close, so you're not even really sacrificing much there. The issue, of course, is that every loving repeater in the Empire appears to have been tested by Elmer goddamn Fudd and will fail to hit rats even though they're completely inside the reticle for no apparent reason.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 07:40
|
|
|
I think I realize why I like Axe+shield so much better than the swords/hammers/maces. The shield already gives plenty of multi-target smashing. The axe itself is great for chopping up individual dudes and specials, since it has armor piercing and decent damage even on normal attacks. I think all the other shield weapons don't have armor piercing on normal attack, but instead can hit multiple enemies.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 07:43
|
|
|
The charged attack on shield weapons is actually really great against Stormvermin because while it takes a bunch of whacks to kill them, you can basically stunlock them and open them up to your buddies or wear them down yourself. Honestly, the charged shield attacks are just fantastic in general.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 07:44
|
|
|
Yeah, its great for stunning them. I find I can usually get in a quick axe chop between stunning bashes on Stormvermin. I really like HW+Shield. Of course, I also like 2handed hammers too, but I find I take more damage using them since I get so much more aggressive with wading into rat packs with huge swings.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 07:45
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 13, 2024 21:29 |
|
|
I had a mission where I wasted 350 rats, nearly double what any of my allies did, primarily by wading into swarms of clanrats/slaves and just shield bashing over and over again to send them all flying. Axe and shield dwarf is the best dwarf, and the axe is strong enough to serve against poo poo like the Rogre. At the same time, nothing is more satisfying than an orange double hand axe with Heroic Killing Blow having a chance to just remove a rogre.
|
|
#
?
Nov 1, 2015 07:48
|
|