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The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

This is a travesty.

Why are they both golden/reddish apples, why isn't the vader bag red apples and the yoda green?

its the same bag, vader on the front yoda is on the back

agreed with second point

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Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post

TK-42-1 posted:

He's got Sorkin's Syndrome. This was highlighted and double underlined by having Spader be the baddie in #2.

The problem with Sorkin is everything he does screams "I am the most boring person in the room". I can enjoy Whedon's stuff even agreeing with the critisms because at least his mono voice can sometimes be fun, I have no loving clue what people see in Sorkin.

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

RFC2324 posted:

Yes, almost everything people are bitching about about how unrealistic the fencing in the PT is can be chalked up to the fact that Jedi can see the future, so a duel is less about countering your enemy and more about trying to set him up in a way he can't escape.

But this isn't the "Post reasonable explanations for poo poo that kinda looks dumb in the Star Wars movies" thread.

that isnt a reasonable explanation lol

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
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"hey dudes the prequel fights look like silly bullshit"
"oh yeah well what about *post hoc fanboy justification involving magic, not mentioned in the films*

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
oh god, imagine a sorkin written star wars

he would ruin tarkin

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
if jedi can see one second into the future then


-wouldnt darth maul have seen obiwan jump out of the pit and have his saber at the place he landed and not die like a chump
-wouldnt general grievous be no threat with lightsabers since he can't see into the future
-wouldn't the jedi constantly interrupt people since they know exactly what they're about to say
-against somebody whom can also see 1 second into the future wouldn't it be indistinguishable from seeing 0 seconds into the future

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway

Otisburg posted:

people are trying to get ahead of the next "No Boring Name Guy Really ISN'T Khan Whoops Turns Out He Is" thing.

people are used to genre films having nothing left to hold our interest but those kinds of cheap "surprises," and jj sort of encourages that kind of thinking

how bad was the last Star Trek
I liked Star Trek 2009 but kind of as a theme park ride kind of deal, where a lot of the plot was pretty stupid and the characters were kinda thin despite being entertaining
Was the last one like that or was it not even that good.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
like the banks, this star wars is too big to fail

Hashtag GBS
May 10, 2015

by Lowtax

Acne Rain posted:

how bad was the last Star Trek
I liked Star Trek 2009 but kind of as a theme park ride kind of deal, where a lot of the plot was pretty stupid and the characters were kinda thin despite being entertaining
Was the last one like that or was it not even that good.

It was really really bad. The only parts that were cool were the very beginning and also some of the scenes of the enterprise going through clouds and poo poo

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
I just want some Force users who aren't Jedi/Sith. "Those guys? Those guys mess up everything for the rest of us, don't go near them. And if their surname is Skywalker? Run and don't stop."

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
why did the emperor use a lightsaber in the prequels when he specifically said in rotj that they are a jedi weapon and thought they were lulzy poo poo because he could do so much more powerful stuff with the force

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The Saurus posted:

why did the emperor use a lightsaber in the prequels when he specifically said in rotj that they are a jedi weapon and thought they were lulzy poo poo because he could do so much more powerful stuff with the force

plinkett made the same observation in his epiii autopsy video.

he observes that vader having one as part of being a fallen jedi could have actually been a cool novelty instead of making sith the other side of the laser sword

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Otisburg posted:

plinkett made the same observation in his epiii autopsy video.

he observes that vader having one as part of being a fallen jedi could have actually been a cool novelty instead of making sith the other side of the laser sword

yeah but then you don't get to have big flash laser sword fights

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

The Saurus posted:

why did the emperor use a lightsaber in the prequels when he specifically said in rotj that they are a jedi weapon and thought they were lulzy poo poo because he could do so much more powerful stuff with the force

This is incorrect. This is what the Emperor says about lightsabers:

The Emperor posted:

You want this, don't you? The hate is swelling in you now. Take your Jedi weapon. Use it. I am unarmed. Strike me down with it. Give in to your anger. With each passing moment you make yourself more my servant.

Also what the hell is the point of having a laser sword if you can't have laser sword duels with them?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


cargohills posted:

This is incorrect. This is what the Emperor says about lightsabers:

that supports what he's saying.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

The only thing that supports what he's saying is "Jedi weapon", the rest is the Emperor taunting Luke for being too weak to kill him.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


him specifically saying "jedi weapon" and the way he delivers the line supports exactly what he's saying. that's why he made the post.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



He also says it earlier, with the same amount of contempt:

Darth Vader: [hands Luke's lightsaber to Palpatine] His lightsaber.
Palpatine: Ah, yes, a Jedi's weapon, much like your father's. By now you must know that your father can never be turned from the dark side. So will it be with you.

I mean yes he doesn't go out of his way to say "As you know, I am a Sith's and we Sith's don't use lightsabers" but even if that's not the implication that got retconned by 15 years of EU poo poo and lucas wanting laser sword fights, it's not a stretch to read it that way taken just in the context of the OT. And I stand by the fact that it would have been a cool way to differentiate sith vs jedi, even if you'd have to come up with a more creative way for them to throw down than to touch laser dicks together.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

Or, rather than having some convoluted reason for the Sith to have duels with the Jedi that didn't involve lightsabers, they could just have lightsabers.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



cargohills posted:

Or, rather than having some convoluted reason for the Sith to have duels with the Jedi that didn't involve lightsabers, they could just have lightsabers.

this does indeed sound like the solution of a man who directs from a chair and delivers exposition by way of characters sitting on a couch in soap opera A and B camera angle/reverse angle cutting back and forth

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
unless you're a giant autist the tone of the emperor's voice in rotj makes it clear that he does not have respect for lightsabers as effective weapons

and why would he? even luke used a blaster most of the time and only pulled out his sword when he needed to or was duelling one on one with vader, same with obi wan kenobi

it's really dumb for jedis to be using lightsabers in huge battle groups

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

The Saurus posted:

unless you're a giant autist the tone of the emperor's voice in rotj makes it clear that he does not have respect for lightsabers as effective weapons

and why would he? even luke used a blaster most of the time and only pulled out his sword when he needed to or was duelling one on one with vader, same with obi wan kenobi

it's really dumb for jedis to be using lightsabers in huge battle groups

what, nah, it makes sense.

that's why we send in SEALS and green berets with swords instead of guns, dummie

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


The Saurus posted:

it's really dumb for jedis to be using lightsabers in huge battle groups

it was dumb for them to even be in huge battles.

psh the force that's all a bunch of hooey *hundreds of jedi fought in a bunch of galactic battles, leading massive armies*

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
also you know how it seemed like jedis were kind of mysterious monkish hermit dudes, and when we found out yoda trained obi wan kenobi like he trained luke we imagined them being off in the wilderness, studying philosophy, meditating and honing their use of the force?

well gently caress that they just went to Jedi Academy in a giant city with like 30 kids in each class.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


and they used those little floating balls and the blast helmets despite it being obvious in the first star wars that kenobi just whipped that up on the fly from poo poo han had on his ship.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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im mad about lightsabers because a fat man made a video telling me to be mad about them

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe

Fojar38 posted:

im mad about lightsabers because a fat man made a video telling me to be mad about them

that fat man was george lucas

that video was the prequels

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Fojar38 posted:

im mad about lightsabers because a fat man made a video telling me to be mad about them

rlm just articulated things people had already felt/said. most of us don't have the time nor inclination to make 3+ hours worth of criticism of bad movies.

The Saurus posted:

that fat man was george lucas

that video was the prequels

Pook Good Mook
Aug 6, 2013


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The "trend" of internet critics making GBS threads on RLM because is getting old. Yes we agree he's a bit overexposed but I never see anyone actually argue againts what he's saying.

Hell I'd be happy if JJ was given a supercut of RLM's criticism's (cutting out the tertiary poo poo about his basement and pizza rolls) so JJ gets an idea of A) Why fans found the prequels underwheming, and B) The shitstorm of terrible fans he's walked into because you know drat well Force Awakens could be Citizen Kane and someone will still make a copycat review video.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

The reason jedi use lightsabers in big battles is because Star Wars is not real, I'm sorry to say

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.
Who is RLM?

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

Red Letter Media

they made a video series reviewing the prequel films (they also do other movies) that a bunch of people got upset over lol

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Cool the "make fun of the star wars eu thread" has become the "nitpick the prequels like autists and regurgitate points that other people have already made but in a less interesting and entertaining way" thread.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


the prequels are eu.

Groovelord Neato posted:

rlm just articulated things people had already felt/said. most of us don't have the time nor inclination to make 3+ hours worth of criticism of bad movies.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
my favorite part of the eu movies was the Johnny Rockets that the ethnic alien owned

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle
and by ethnic I mean black

sleepy.eyes
Sep 14, 2007

Like a pig in a chute.
The whole of episode 2 was surreal for me because Obi Wan's actor looks a lot like my Dad did around his late 30s. It was like my Dad was flying around in space doing Jedi poo poo. It was hilarious.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Tender Bender posted:

Cool the "make fun of the star wars eu thread" has become the "nitpick the prequels like autists and regurgitate points that other people have already made but in a less interesting and entertaining way" thread.

G0-T9 was a droid that had been considered a galactic-level threat at some point prior to the Galactic War between the Galactic Republic and the Sith Empire. When subjected to the Wreyn-Tsatke Cyber-Psychology Scale, a psychological test, G0-T9 received a score of 8-HSM—signifying a level 8 intelligence.[1]

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Improbable Lobster posted:

G0-T9 was a droid that had been considered a galactic-level threat at some point prior to the Galactic War between the Galactic Republic and the Sith Empire. When subjected to the Wreyn-Tsatke Cyber-Psychology Scale, a psychological test, G0-T9 received a score of 8-HSM—signifying a level 8 intelligence.[1]

i thought you had ironically misspelled goto from kotor 2, but of course someone made a knockoff called got9 instead :eng99:

Groovelord Neato posted:

him specifically saying "jedi weapon" and the way he delivers the line supports exactly what he's saying. that's why he made the post.

jedi weapon specifically refers to lazor swords with a colour other than red you see :goonsay:

Otisburg posted:

this does indeed sound like the solution of a man who directs from a chair and delivers exposition by way of characters sitting on a couch in soap opera A and B camera angle/reverse angle cutting back and forth

how dare you imply that anyone other than st lucas (pbuh) invented shot/reverse shot techniques

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Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

sleepy.eyes posted:

The whole of episode 2 was surreal for me because Obi Wan's actor looks a lot like my Dad did around his late 30s. It was like my Dad was flying around in space doing Jedi poo poo. It was hilarious.

Look up "The Long Way Round" and the "Long Way Down" on Netflix. They're both documentary series about Ewan McGregor and his buddy going on long motorcycle trips (One from London to New York and the other from the northern tip of Scotland to the southern hip of Africa). He ends up not shaving so for stretches of each show it's Obi-Wan motorcycling through the countryside complaining about how much his balls hurt.

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