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Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

SaNChEzZ posted:

The one thing about the cage that makes me say no is the bar spacing being 22mm at points. If birdo can get his head through the bars, it's potentially dangerous. Other than that it's great.

I did have a look around for recommended bar spacing for Senegals and found a variety of answers, some saying a max of 3/4", some 7/8" (and a few even saying 1") but since the manufacturer and the retailer list it as being suitable for Senegals I assumed it would be ok. The wider spacing is on the horizontal bars on the sides, the narrower spacing is on the vertical bars on the front and back if that makes a difference. Would be annoying to have to return this since it's already assembled... I might wait until I get a bird to see?

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Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Noxville posted:

I did have a look around for recommended bar spacing for Senegals and found a variety of answers, some saying a max of 3/4", some 7/8" (and a few even saying 1") but since the manufacturer and the retailer list it as being suitable for Senegals I assumed it would be ok. The wider spacing is on the horizontal bars on the sides, the narrower spacing is on the vertical bars on the front and back if that makes a difference. Would be annoying to have to return this since it's already assembled... I might wait until I get a bird to see?

I mean, it should be fine, senegals are pretty big headed. But it's just something to be weary of and pay attention for. I'd say you're safe until he figures out if he can get his head through, which he may not even figure out!

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


If you worked night shifts, would it be possible to have a parrot on a schedule where they sleep during the day and they're up at night? Like bed at 6am and up at 6pm or something.

As a note, I don't have a bird or any plans to get one, I'm just curious about whether or not you could have a night owl parrot.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I do believe what you are looking for there is an actual owl :D

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Nap Ghost

Noxville posted:

Ok, so I've been wanting to get a parrot for a good long time now and I'm in the position where I can afford it and have a large enough place. I'm intending to get a bird very soon and wanted to run my thinking by people with more experience than I since I wouldn't want to get an animal that's going to be unhappy.

I like some of the large parrots a lot but I don't have the space for a Cockatoo or African Grey and I know they can be needy (particularly Cockatoos) so I've been looking at Senegals and Conures, and am more-or-less settled an a Senegal. I read that they're also quieter than most and when left with toys can entertain themselves for a good while, which is the main concern since I live alone and work regular hours, leaving for work at 8:20am and getting back in after 6pm. I figure that if I turn lights out in the room at 9pm it can sleep though to about 8am and get enough sleep if I open the curtains before I leave, but it will then be about ten hours before I get back for interaction time. Would I be ok leaving a Senegal for that long provided it has toys, lamp light and noise from the radio?

I have this cage and toys and food and have found a good breeder with Senegals ready, I've done a lot of reading but practical experience trumps all so I thought I'd just see if people here thought this bird would be good for me (and vice versa).
Sounds like you're approaching this with the right responsibility, so good for you!

One other thing is that Sennies (other conures and parrots, too, but senegals especially) can be become one-person birds. This can become awkward if you have a special someone you want to come over, and could potentially be a relationship wrecker. Keeping a bird well-socialized is possible (and I think is a responsibility for a pet owner) but it can be hard if you don't often have company, and the vagaries of life can always get in the way. Law of good intentions and all.

Basically, be prepared to make a 30-year commitment or more, and do what you can to get the bird used to other people while you can :)

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

Khizan posted:

If you worked night shifts, would it be possible to have a parrot on a schedule where they sleep during the day and they're up at night? Like bed at 6am and up at 6pm or something.

As a note, I don't have a bird or any plans to get one, I'm just curious about whether or not you could have a night owl parrot.
I'd imagine this would theoretically be possible IF you provide sun-replacement lamps for the bird during its "day" hours and make sure it is in a dark room during its "night" hours. I'm still not sure how it would work out in practice, so don't take that as "something that is good for a parrot" because I have no idea.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

DarkHorse posted:

Sounds like you're approaching this with the right responsibility, so good for you!

One other thing is that Sennies (other conures and parrots, too, but senegals especially) can be become one-person birds. This can become awkward if you have a special someone you want to come over, and could potentially be a relationship wrecker. Keeping a bird well-socialized is possible (and I think is a responsibility for a pet owner) but it can be hard if you don't often have company, and the vagaries of life can always get in the way. Law of good intentions and all.

Basically, be prepared to make a 30-year commitment or more, and do what you can to get the bird used to other people while you can :)

Yeah, Senegal Parrots are notorious for having a favorite human and that's it. Charlie would straight up attack people if I left him out when he was in puberty. Nowadays he'll just chill next to me or on top of tiels' cage when I have him out and have company over, and he'll gladly take food from people, but he won't let anyone else handle him. On the flip side they're known for being very independent and not particularly needy. Charlie is a bit of a velcro bird when he's out but he'll often find something to chew on that's way more interesting than me and when he's in the cage he doesn't get all nuts or do contact calling. The best description I've read about Senegals is that unlike most species they have a really long attention span so they're good at keeping themselves occupied.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Quakers are known for that too, but it honestly comes down to how much you force them onto other people. They are colony birds in the wild after all.

Bobbys really cute so visitors love him so hes used to being handled by strangers, which is awesome because hes way less fussy than youd expect at the vet.

Dunno how that will transfer to other species but even the strongest of 1 mate birds would have to work together/be around others at some point in the wild. With enough socialising it should be possible to end up with a bird whos atleast accepting of strangers, if not happy. Would depend on the individual birds personality

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I know you said you were not getting a grey but If you are in the UK I would be very wary of buying one from up north, there is a guy who is farming them. I won't link but if you go on any of the free ad/bird mart kind of web sites you will soon notice him on every one. The babies are genetically sound but the poor females are being bred to death as he's taking the eggs away as soon as they are hatched and incubating/hand raising so he can get them to lay yet more eggs. Tempting as it might be to pay £300-£400 for a £800 bird like with all farms if no one buys then he will stop doing it.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


It's so late it's early, I can't sleep, and Ohtori was up smashing his face against his cage anyway so now he's cuddled up under my cheek in the dark :3: the only time he'll do it

i poop fire posted:

I was trying to get a decent picture of this green cheek at the local pet store and kept getting photobombed. :saddowns:



Cute

learnincurve posted:

His thorness was feeling photogenic today.





Also cute

Tsaedje posted:

I feel the need to relay this story about Gandalf:

(artist's impression of Gandalf)

The other day, Gandalf decided he needed to kill things, so he grabbed a plastic bottle cap (they are his favourite things to kill).
He clambered over to his rope perch and launched himself off it while dangling by one foot, so he was hanging upside down, passed the bottle cap to his other foot (still dangling) and HIT HIMSELF IN THE BEAK with it a couple times, then was like "RIGHT, NOW YOU'VE GONE AND DONE IT!", and mangled it. While dangling from one foot.

That's right, he MADE IT TRY TO ATTACK HIM so he could lay down beak justice.


BIRBS

Adorable

Agent355 posted:

http://i.imgur.com/WbBtj86.webm

probably just thinks it's fun.

Cute and cool

painted bird posted:

So, uh.



This happened. :kimchi:

Triple the d'aww

(Birds are still assholes never forget)

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


painted bird posted:

So, uh.



This happened. :kimchi:

Dawww bird is a socialist socializing.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


learnincurve posted:

His thorness was feeling photogenic today.



I love how Thor's crest looks kind of like a lightning bolt in this one.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
Thor looks so charming. Like some kind of millet model. "I call this look, Blue Steel"

Battle Pigeon posted:

(Birds are still assholes never forget)
Judah nailed me in the eye from four feet away with a pellet tonight, birds are total assholes :mad:

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
Judah needs to be renamed Bullseye.

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


today i let the cat out while gaston was on the balustrade

the cat went to within about a meter of gaston without noticing

gaston peered at the cat for a few seconds, then put his wings out and scared it off

Suntan Boy
May 27, 2005
Stained, dirty, smells like weed, possibly a relic from the sixties.



Smart cat.

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


he's really not

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Dreggon posted:

today i let the cat out while gaston was on the balustrade

the cat went to within about a meter of gaston without noticing

gaston peered at the cat for a few seconds, then put his wings out and scared it off

Collision course (with my head)

Today this Cockatoo did that too but to me and while flying, and centimeters instead of a meter.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

GoldStandardConure posted:

Judah needs to be renamed Bullseye.
Judah needs to be renamed Shithead :mad:

Well okay not this morning :3: This morning he was chattering at me while I watched Kiska get REALLY MAD at the local Little Black Cat, a feral-ish barn cat our landlords feed and who was outside the door sitting in KISKA'S DRIVEWAY. Judah apparently found all this quite entertaining and was providing me with a running commentary. There were more "wanna water?" and "pretty boyyy" moments than I remember from most sports commentating however.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Late+usual lovely camera but



Carrot stick with a tiny bit of carrot hummus on one end. He spent a while very carefully licking off all the hummus, then shredded the carrot into pieces without eating a single bit



It was really bright and sunny so I covered a bit of Steve's cage, so two perches were in the shade instead of just his favourite ladder and floor spot. He seemed to appreciate it but uh decided hanging out clinging to the cage corner was much better than sitting comfortably on a perch

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

Collision course (with my head)

Today this Cockatoo did that too but to me and while flying, and centimeters instead of a meter.

Your cockatoo photos are great

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Dreggon posted:

today i let the cat out while gaston was on the balustrade

the cat went to within about a meter of gaston without noticing

gaston peered at the cat for a few seconds, then put his wings out and scared it off

gaston probably noticed but was debating whether or not to chase it away or go in for the kill

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
Yesterday, Gnosis chased Eris a bunch, trying to preen her. She was having none of it, but didn't get aggressive. It was hilarious.

Also, I think she's starting to mimic the budgies' burbles and chatter!

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


The photo you posted of all three of them makes it look like either Eris is tiny, or you have some massive budgies, since they look almost the same sizes

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
She was hunched over a bit, but I think it might be both. Also, Gnosis was seriously puffed up. He's usually about 3/4 that size.

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
Oh, Steve :allears: I bet if there was a cockatiel frat he and Judah would be idiot friends.

painted bird posted:

Also, Gnosis was seriously puffed up. He's usually about 3/4 that size.
Was Gnosis the one on the bottom? He looked SO MAD at the cage being invaded.

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
Gnosis is the one up top! The grump at the bottom is Hubris.

Also, it's Eris's cage, not the budgies'. He's the invader. :3:

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Tendai posted:

Oh, Steve :allears: I bet if there was a cockatiel frat he and Judah would be idiot friends.

Ohtori has probably ruined Steve's attitude towards other birds. When he first arrived he wanted to be buddies with Ohtori and was all curious, and in return would get repeatedly attacked and harassed. Now Ohtori is okay with him, and Steve eventually accepted that (and now as you know they have this weird gay sort-of-relationship thing going on) but he doesn't want to be near Inko at all. They've shared the window perch once or twice but that's about it. Inko is mildly intimidated but curious towards both, but neither want to know him. :smith:

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Loki would be the quiet scared looking creepy kid that looks like she's about to go postal any second but has been allowed in because her cool elder brother is a member.

Staryberry
Oct 16, 2009
Today in awesome bird videos:
http://tumblr.becausebirds.com/post/132361060657/crow-uses-french-fry-to-fish

This crow uses a piece of french fry to fish! :psyboom:

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Tendai posted:

Oh, Steve :allears: I bet if there was a cockatiel frat he and Judah would be idiot friends.

Archer would always be trying to pick a fight after thinking one of them was after Ellie

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
:siren: Gnosis landed on my laptop monitor!! :siren:

He hung out a few inches from my face while I whistled at him, pooped on my laptop and eventually flew off to hang out with Ms Pineapple again.

I'm really amazed at how much bolder the budgies got in these past few days. What happened?

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

painted bird posted:

:siren: Gnosis landed on my laptop monitor!! :siren:

He hung out a few inches from my face while I whistled at him, pooped on my laptop and eventually flew off to hang out with Ms Pineapple again.

I'm really amazed at how much bolder the budgies got in these past few days. What happened?
Aww :3: In my experience, tiny parrots are bizarrely fearless little shits sometimes. Budgies and especially parrotlets, I have never seen a more aggressive bird in general than goddamn Pacific parrotlets, they have no sense of their own size and oh man their angry noises are adorable.

Tea.EarlGrey.Hot.
Mar 3, 2007

"I'd like to get my hands on that fellow Earl Grey and tell him a thing or two about tea leaves."


giving mom the evil eye. can't wait to see this feisty potato during the holidays :unsmith:

Tendai posted:

Aww :3: In my experience, tiny parrots are bizarrely fearless little shits sometimes. Budgies and especially parrotlets, I have never seen a more aggressive bird in general than goddamn Pacific parrotlets, they have no sense of their own size and oh man their angry noises are adorable.

oh my god yes, I had a parrotlet and he would make the funniest noise as he went around trying to headbutt people :3: he bullied pearl on occasion but no big fights. she did have one moment of triumphant revenge, where he was sitting on my shoulder and she was hiding on my mom's. suddenly she ran across both of our chests and gave his tail a yank! ...and of course hauled rear end back to mom before he could do anything about it. :derptiel:

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

Tea.EarlGrey.Hot. posted:



giving mom the evil eye. can't wait to see this feisty potato during the holidays :unsmith:

oh my god yes, I had a parrotlet and he would make the funniest noise as he went around trying to headbutt people :3: he bullied pearl on occasion but no big fights. she did have one moment of triumphant revenge, where he was sitting on my shoulder and she was hiding on my mom's. suddenly she ran across both of our chests and gave his tail a yank! ...and of course hauled rear end back to mom before he could do anything about it. :derptiel:
Ahahaha "gently caress off, this is my spice cabinet."

Probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen was a travel cage full of juvenile parrotlets because they were so goddamn mad at being in there and the sounds were so cute even though you knew they were trying to shriek like the mightiest of cockatoos.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


painted bird posted:

:siren: Gnosis landed on my laptop monitor!! :siren:

He hung out a few inches from my face while I whistled at him, pooped on my laptop and eventually flew off to hang out with Ms Pineapple again.

I'm really amazed at how much bolder the budgies got in these past few days. What happened?

Could well be taking cues from Eris (if she's just wary but not afraid), and/or having her around in general has made them braver!


Tea.EarlGrey.Hot. posted:



giving mom the evil eye. can't wait to see this feisty potato during the holidays :unsmith:

Steve claims the cupboard on occasion too-and sometimes Ohtori will get in there with him and do the aggressive posturing and protecting while Steve flirts as hard as he can

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Sometimes I swear Archer is deliberately posing for the camera



And a rare sighting of Ms. E. P. Derpsworth

anotherblownsave
Feb 26, 2008

The sponsors will like you better this way, trust me.

Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

Sometimes I swear Archer is deliberately posing for the camera



And a rare sighting of Ms. E. P. Derpsworth



These are some drat cute potatoes

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer

Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

Sometimes I swear Archer is deliberately posing for the camera



And a rare sighting of Ms. E. P. Derpsworth


Look at their faces :3: Mr. Charming and Coy Potato

(Sometimes I really wish that Judah had bright orange cheeks like that instead of being all pastelface, I love that traffic-cone color)

painted bird
Oct 18, 2013

by Lowtax
Me too! Cockatiels are really pretty, IMO. Silly-looking, too, but pretty.

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Poor non-photogenic Loki, on camera she looks like a grey nondescript lump.

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