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Kennel posted:I don't think alcohol had any effect on anyone before the upcoming version.
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program666 posted:Maybe I'm understanding the question wrong but a 64 bit program could theoretically run faster than a 32 bit one (and use more than 4 GB of ram but that's besides the point I guess) scamtank posted:so uh what did the 64-bit thing mean again  More importantly, it gives the game far more address space. This is a bit complex but basically every resource, even ones that aren't actively in RAM (ie. paged out) consumes address space and if you run out it's about as bad or worse than running out of RAM (because HDD can sub for RAM via swap, but address space is the hard cap). Less crashes! Maybe! program666 posted:it's kind of funny that he mentions a skeletal DF though, I would guess you just need to change some parameters during compilation and check if anything breaks. My entire OS is compiled for 64 bits, including stuff like firefox, which is probably not even tested by the developers and it just works. axelsoar posted:Lets it run native in a 64-bit operating system instead of a 32-bit emulation, and more importantly, lets the program utilize more than 4(ish)GB of your RAM.
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Excelzior posted:technically, dungeon masters wore nothing but cloaks so the image is accurate, but the text overlay isn't.
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Kyte posted:Depends on how much of DF is memory bound vs cpu-bound and/or how much caching Toady adds to take advantage of the extra process space. But my guess is "not that likely to be faster". yeah, going from 32 to 64 bit was never reported as a huge speed upgrade, but now I realize I never looked for benchmarks testing this, I'll look for this stuff when I'm off work
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Kyte posted:The main issue I can think of is that you're changing the size of pointers, which can and will wreck data structure packing and/or cause Super Fun buffer overruns or other stuff I haven't thought about (I try to avoid C++). Also if Toady purposely or accidentally coded something that just happens to work in 32-bit and not in 64-bit. Stuff like assuming ints are the same size as pointers or packing flags into unused pointer bits or other shady stuff.
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Kyte posted:Depends on how much of DF is memory bound vs cpu-bound and/or how much caching Toady adds to take advantage of the extra process space. But my guess is "not that likely to be faster". Yeah, Toady has a lot of dangerous low-level stuff like using a nibble to store fluid data for a tile, which I imagine will fail catastrophically when compiling in 64 bit. Also, his code is a mix of C and C++, which I'm sure leads to all sorts of Fun. Makes me glad I code in C#.
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Malcolm posted:This is like when Toady revealed that dwarves had accidentally been made cat-sized for years and years of development. There has to be more to this  also are there any hilarious dev logs besides the geese laying iron thrones and something about boiling clouds of dwarf fat
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KillHour posted:Yeah, Toady has a lot of dangerous low-level stuff like using a nibble to store fluid data for a tile, which I imagine will fail catastrophically when compiling in 64 bit. Also, his code is a mix of C and C++, which I'm sure leads to all sorts of Fun. Makes me glad I code in C#. To be fair to him, he's a mathematician first and programmer second, and he mostly learns from his mistakes.
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Soho Joe posted:There has to be more to this Long story short, a baby dwarf would only grow in size exactly on the exact minute of his birthday. The fortress mode clock doesn't track every single minute of activity Because of that, your natural-born dwarves would have about a 90+% chance of staying at baby size for their entire lives. It's very difficult to see a creature's size directly - people found out about this by using DFhack to check each dwarf's blood volume.
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Also, domestic animals are all enormous only because the stat screen adds up some anatomy stuff all wrong - they've been entirely the right size all this time I only figured it out because there was a distinct "end result of all this body shape modification nonsense" value in memory that didn't seem to match the description scamtank fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Oct 29, 2015 |
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I forget. Were Dwarven martial arts mentioned before this update?
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Not as such, but when Toady started figuring out how culture forms get generated, he mentioned offhand that the poetry generator is "probably the most analogous to what were were planning with combat styles. I didn't expect this to come before those, but it did."
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Tunicate posted:It's very difficult to see a creature's size directly - people found out about this by using DFhack to check each dwarf's blood volume. Tunicate posted:people found out about this by using DFhack to check each dwarf's blood volume. Tunicate posted:blood volume. Oh Toady.
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Darth Various posted:Oh Toady. Used to calculate bleeding out. Actually pretty drat important in combat.
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And that's why Dwarf Fortress is one of the best games in existence.
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Can't wait to build a actual tavern where dwarves drink and sing and be powergay beyond belief, i hope Toady implements even deeper party mechanics. There should be inebriation mechanics and angry drunks.
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Also this should be a actual option in the military and you have to fill their backpacks to the brim with alcohol to make them fight properly.
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What do you think a martial trance is?
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skasion posted:What do you think a martial trance is? DWARVEN ANGER
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I think you're thinking of a marital trance
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Oct 30, 2015 19:47
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Welp, time to pack up everyone, dwarf fortress is officially finished. Next release is 1.0.
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Literally shaking.
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Oct 30, 2015 20:13
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Urist McTumblr has been sad lately. He couldn't even lately.
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Oct 30, 2015 20:15
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Loyalty cascades involving animalman rights.
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Excelzior posted:Urist McTumblr has been sad lately. He couldn't even lately. Urist has penned a tome, "Friend-ism: These pro-social shitlords pushing their agenda on xme."
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Oct 30, 2015 22:43
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Do races in Dwarf Fortress have their own obscenities? They totally should.
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Nothing too creative, but they do have words for "anus"
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"Initiate Countdown!"Bay12Games Patreon posted:We've gone from 82 dev items in September to the last 14 now. Everything slows down a bit here, more over release paranoia than anything to do with the crunchiness of the individual items. Here's the complete list, in no particular order (there won't be any surprise additions from here on):
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this guys living the dwarven dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxcftjJ39BU
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skasion posted:Nothing too creative, but they do have words for "anus" I guess they could take their god's name in vain.
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necrotic posted:this guys living the dwarven dream This is a masterful engraving of waves.
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Gus Hobbleton posted:This is a yak wool sweater. On it is a covering of vomit. In the vomit is the remnants of ☼mom's spaghetti☼ From pages back, but I just wanted to point out that I got this joke. 
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I'm proud of you
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So I've only been following this thread recently and have probably missed earlier important things. Stuff I want to know: -Does the new release ostensibly have a fix for the "unplayable lag in any biome that includes trees" problem? -Does the new release ostensibly reintroduce dwarven economy? -Does the new release ostensibly have a fix for the "invasion parties can't path well over the world map and so will rarely if ever hit your settlement"? Thanks bunches
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ChickenWing posted:So I've only been following this thread recently and have probably missed earlier important things. I can't recall any of those getting mentioned no.
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ChickenWing posted:-Does the new release ostensibly have a fix for the "unplayable lag in any biome that includes trees" problem? I can't say give a strong answer for the first and third questions, but I believe Toady has said that re-implementing the economy isn't viable until the "fortress starting scenarios" part of the development page is finished.
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drat. I want to start playing again but I am incredibly bad and wood is my crutch, so having trees murder my framerate is eminently undesirable.
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