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I wonder if my nexus 6 will get a lollipop version since at&t is holding back my marshmallow.
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Thanks for the tips about sms backup, guys.Jan posted:I dunno about Marshmallow but for Lollipop, it seems like it keeps launcher layout when using NFC restore but not when using manual restore through Google backup: No, I meant, when my Galaxy S3 updates apps they sometimes disappear from the stock launcher. This does not happen on some custom launchers. Does the Marshmallow stock launcher exhibit this behaviour?
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Nov 2, 2015 23:03
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Got Marshmallow OTA on my N6 two days before I get a 6p. gj
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RZA Encryption posted:I wonder if my nexus 6 will get a lollipop version since at&t is holding back my marshmallow. I don't think Att is holding anything back. I have a friend with a Nexus 5 on Att and he got the ota weeks ago.
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Nov 2, 2015 23:09
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pun pundit posted:No, I meant, when my Galaxy S3 updates apps they sometimes disappear from the stock launcher. This does not happen on some custom launchers. Does the Marshmallow stock launcher exhibit this behaviour? Neither the old Nexus (forget what it's called, my N7 2013 uses it) launcher nor the Google Now launcher used on newer devices does this.
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pun pundit posted:Thanks for the tips about sms backup, guys. 
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Speaking of monthly security updates: http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/hack-galaxy-hunting-bugs-in-samsung.html It looks like Samsung is taking it seriously.
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I got my 5X today and like it so far, except for one thing. The vibration motor feels like it's making the case rattle, and it's very noticeable with haptic feedback turned on. My wife's original Nexus 5 does this as well, while my Nexus 5 had a nice, smooth, quiet vibration. Has anyone with a new 5X noticed this? It's really disconcerting, but I don't want to return it if this is just normal for the 5X.
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Nov 3, 2015 01:01
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Is there some new sort of DRM bullshit going on with Play Music, or any does my Nexus 5X pretend that there's only 33 songs of the 124 displayed in the playlist on the webplayer?
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bull3964 posted:I don't think Att is holding anything back. I have a friend with a Nexus 5 on Att and he got the ota weeks ago. From what I've read, nobody on LMY48W has received an OTA, and only people on AT&T were upgraded to LMY48W.
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RZA Encryption posted:From what I've read, nobody on LMY48W has received an OTA, and only people on AT&T were upgraded to LMY48W. AT&T: Not Even Once. What's weird is that there IS a distinct LMY48W with no carrier-specific declaration. There are multiples declared only for each of T-Mobile or Project Fi. ... Did Google seriously make a "totally not just AT&T we swear" build? Even so there should have been an OTA by now, but see above. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Nov 3, 2015 01:23
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WhiteHowler posted:I got my 5X today and like it so far, except for one thing. The vibration motor feels like it's making the case rattle, and it's very noticeable with haptic feedback turned on. I've only noticed that it's weak but it vibrates the same amount regardless of if it's in the case or not for me. Combat Pretzel posted:Is there some new sort of DRM bullshit going on with Play Music, or any does my Nexus 5X pretend that there's only 33 songs of the 124 displayed in the playlist on the webplayer? Trying clearing the cache? Or maybe it's something to do with your previous device still listed? I went into Play Music -> Settings -> Your Devices and deleted my old phone, but I don't know if that matters. I hadn't experienced any issues but seemed like something I should do.
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TollTheHounds posted:I've only noticed that it's weak but it vibrates the same amount regardless of if it's in the case or not for me. The vibration is really loud compared to my Nexus 5. I'm just wondering if anyone else who also owned a 5 is noticing a considerably louder vibrate motor on the 5X.
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broken clock opsec posted:Speaking of monthly security updates: http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/hack-galaxy-hunting-bugs-in-samsung.html Well it's another way of differentiating themselves from the other OEMs eating their lunch. Hopefully it'll have a domino effect.
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TollTheHounds posted:Trying clearing the cache? Or maybe it's something to do with your previous device still listed? I went into Play Music -> Settings -> Your Devices and deleted my old phone, but I don't know if that matters. I hadn't experienced any issues but seemed like something I should do.
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TollTheHounds posted:My 5X just arrived, initial thoughts echo what's already been posted: I highly encourage everyone moving to the 5x and 6P consider using a real, long, password for their device. The password you choose, be it PIN or Pattern or actual password is what drives the device encryption. So a long, say 15+ character password with punctuation, numbers, etc. serves to make your device basically unable to be unlocked without you. And the fingerprint reader makes it crazy easy to use day to day. Fingerprints can be compelled without a warrant, but a password cannot. Just power down your phone if you're worried. I personally am happy to have this and plan to be going through customs and immigration from here on out with my phone off. I'd also recommend Signal for messaging, but that's probably too  to get people off of Telegram or WhatsApp.
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Man, after 2 years of touch ID on the the button in iOS, getting used to it being on the back is a real mindfuck. Build quality is excellent so far. Enjoying playing with Marshmallow. Speakers are great. Screen is good. Camera is very quick - need to put it to the test tomorrow. USBC might be my favorite part. Really easy for me to forget micro USB ever existed.
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Cozmosis posted:Man, after 2 years of touch ID on the the button in iOS, getting used to it being on the back is a real mindfuck. I honestly like it a lot more on the back, it feels like one less step than on my iphone. The scanner is where I naturally rest my finger on the back, so unlocking it just happens without any extra thought.
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Nov 3, 2015 04:38
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WhiteHowler posted:Sorry, by case I meant the chassis of the phone (my Diztronic case won't be here for a couple more days). My 5X has a vibration motor so strong that when I first used it I thought there was a touchscreen sound enabled. I'm a bit more used to it now.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Is there some new sort of DRM bullshit going on with Play Music, or any does my Nexus 5X pretend that there's only 33 songs of the 124 displayed in the playlist on the webplayer? Long shot, but you may want to try de-authorizing any old devices you no longer use with GPM. Maybe it's seeing those other 91 songs as already registered to the maximum number of devices while the others aren't there yet. On the other hand I'm almost positive that isn't how Play Music works and you'd be able to tell right away by whether the 33 songs showing are your 33 most recent.
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The 6P speakers are pretty loud. I have a IFTTT script that sets the volume on 50% early in the morning. I was at the urinal at my workplace and I'm pretty sure I scared the literal poo poo out of someone when I got an email notification today. I'm turning the volume down and peeing at home as much as possible from here on out.
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FunOne posted:I personally am happy to have this and plan to be going through customs and immigration from here on out with my phone off. Couldn't they just as easily compel you to, you know, turn on the phone and then force you to provide your fingerprint? I know with password-only you can simply claim to have suddenly forgotten the password, so would not the simplier solution to be leaving the phone on with password-unlocking and disabling the fingerprint unlock until you actually require its convenience again?
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You can configure an Android device to require a password upon boot to decrypt the user data volume. I might be wrong, but I would assume that at that stage of the boot process, the fingerprint reader won't work and you have to use the real password.
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kitten smoothie posted:You can configure an Android device to require a password upon boot to decrypt the user data volume. I might be wrong, but I would assume that at that stage of the boot process, the fingerprint reader won't work and you have to use the real password. Well, that pretty neatly explains the reason why then. So I guess you really should only completely disable fingerprint unlocking in day-to-day life if you are knowingly engaged illegal poo poo and that what's on your phone would definitely incriminate you.
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kitten smoothie posted:You can configure an Android device to require a password upon boot to decrypt the user data volume. I might be wrong, but I would assume that at that stage of the boot process, the fingerprint reader won't work and you have to use the real password. I never use this feature because I'm afraid my phone will reboot in the middle of the night and I'll miss my alarm (would sit on the password screen). I know, use an actual clock idiot. Nah.
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FunOne posted:So a long, say 15+ character password with punctuation, numbers, etc. serves to make your device basically unable to be unlocked without you.
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FAUXTON posted:Long shot, but you may want to try de-authorizing any old devices you no longer use with GPM. Maybe it's seeing those other 91 songs as already registered to the maximum number of devices while the others aren't there yet. On the other hand I'm almost positive that isn't how Play Music works and you'd be able to tell right away by whether the 33 songs showing are your 33 most recent. I cleared data and cache and get it resync. It did then download all songs but one. Since the list isn't that huge, I found the song it skipped, removed and readded it to the playlist, then it downloaded it too. I left the phone overnight, just to find that that one song disappeared again. However when I hit refresh, it "downloaded" it again (it retrieved it from the device cache). Their sync mechanism seems hosed, because I found plenty of similar complaints of spontaneous attacks of Play Music alzheimers over a large date range.
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The government is going to compel me to unlock my phone so they can see what porn I watch?!?!
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Captain Yossarian posted:The government is going to compel me to unlock my phone so they can see what porn I watch?!?! If I recall correctly, porn isn't the issue. Customs agents are allowed to hook up unsecured phones to a device that scans them for "copyright violating media files." They cannot, however, compel you to unlock a password-protected phone. I am unsure if this extends to fingerprint unlocking, but this goon says it does. Password length isn't relevant to this scenario, and lol if you think the government doesn't have some way to bypass the password entirely, either directly or through Google.
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With the TypeA-TypeC adapter consistently out of stock on Android market, what's a good place to get them in Canuckistan? I'd get my old micro USB cables from monoprice/primecables in the past but half of them turn out to be duds after a week. It still ends up being pretty cheap in comparison to the alternatives, but I'd like to not have to play the cable roulette for once. e2: Goddamnit, I did a factory reset to try and get the Tap & Go restore again. But instead of starting from scratch, it said my phone was previously synced and asked me to log into my google account, leaving me with only the Google online backup option. I really wanted to get the touch restore going since it seems a lot better at transferring state than the online backup. No ideas? 
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Blue Footed Booby posted:If I recall correctly, porn isn't the issue. Customs agents are allowed to hook up unsecured phones to a device that scans them for "copyright violating media files." They cannot, however, compel you to unlock a password-protected phone. I am unsure if this extends to fingerprint unlocking, but this goon says it does. I'm pretty sure they *can* compel you to unlock a fingerprint-protected phone, hence the guy above saying he will turn off his phone going through customs. (I assume Android fingerprints work like iOS in that you have to use a password the first time you unlock your phone after booting.)
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Endless Mike posted:I'm pretty sure they *can* compel you to unlock a fingerprint-protected phone, hence the guy above saying he will turn off his phone going through customs. (I assume Android fingerprints work like iOS in that you have to use a password the first time you unlock your phone after booting.) They do if you enable that option.
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Sub Rosa posted:So, why can't you have a password longer than 16 characters? ....you can? I would just recommend you start near that length and make it a large search space. Blue Footed Booby posted:Password length isn't relevant to this scenario, and lol if you think the government doesn't have some way to bypass the password entirely, either directly or through Google. For both Apple and Android the password chosen directly feeds into the encryption key for the userspace. So, there should be no way to bypass it. Apple has been getting some attention on this front as the Justice department is finding out that they're serious that nothing can be done. And yes, I would recommend a long, complicated, password set to prompt on boot then use your fingerprint day to day. That leaves userspace completely encrypted until the password is put in, no amount of sucking the data off the device will do anything but yield encrypted data. None of that solves the getting beaten with a pipe until you put in the password scenario, but it would keep prying eyes from rummaging through your phone legally. Here is one of the legal decisions that says a fingerprint is not protected by the 5th amendment. http://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/telecommunications/court-rules-police-may-compel-suspects-to-unlock-fingerprint-protected-smartphones
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FunOne posted:... I was thinking of the NSA. Given leaked documents, we know that they've: intercepted shipments of infrastructure-level routing hardware and installed compromised firmware; gotten deliberately-insecure changes into open source crypto projects; and--most relevant to this specific issue--fed info on activity not actually related to their mission to the DoJ, who constructed legal avenues to get at the data they already knew was there without disclosing in court how they actually knew about it. I'm of the opinion that literally any password (edit: as far as phones are concerned) is good enough for keeping out authorities who will actually follow the law, and nothing can be done about authorities that won't. Device passwords are for keeping out snooping friends/relations, and in case your device is stolen. Not to say that a decent password is a bad thing, I was just commenting on long passwords in the context of going through customs, law, etc. And thanks for that article! Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Blue Footed Booby posted:I'm of the opinion that literally any password is good enough for keeping out authorities who will actually follow the law, and nothing can be done about authorities that won't. Device passwords are for keeping out snooping friends/relations, and in case your device is stolen. I don't think this is completely correct. Assuming your assumptions are correct (they're definitely plausible) about the NSA's ability to get into your password protected phone, they're not going to share that ability with every ole law enforcement entity that wants to see what you've got on your phone.
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My nexus 5 battery is garbage! Should I look to amazon to get a new battery or maybe some other place (I heard amazon batteries are suspect)?
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TheReverend posted:My nexus 5 battery is garbage! Should I look to amazon to get a new battery or maybe some other place (I heard amazon batteries are suspect)? etradesupply is the only place you are guarenteed to get a genuine battery http://www.etradesupply.com/lg-nexus-5-battery.html You can also use the G2 3000mah battery if you remove the wireless charging coil.
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TheReverend posted:My nexus 5 battery is garbage! Should I look to amazon to get a new battery or maybe some other place (I heard amazon batteries are suspect)? Agreed man, Nexus 5 battery sucks rear end along with the camera. I love Nexus and plan to get a 6P but this is my problem with the Nexus line.
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