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MrL_JaKiri posted:Not connected to an idiot spouting nonsense about the NHS: They should just deal with the roads the way they were dealt with where I lived in the countryside around Derry, do nothing until the farmers get fed up and fill the pot holes themselves, not that they ever did a good job.
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Gonzo McFee posted:The NHS is good and has helped me tremendously with my melanoma and any of yoos talkin trash about my NHS and I'll burn you like a poppy. Similarly my dad just got out of recovery for bowel cancer, the NHS is great, gently caress that dipshit with his ill-informed reckons.
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OwlFancier posted:
the reality is you are trading a small problem (nhs wastage) with a disproportional effect (underfunding exacerbating the problem) for a different risk (clinical malpractice and misdiagnosis). It will never make more sense than hiring another clinician, since it creates far too much risk
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Nov 3, 2015 19:32
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baka kaba posted:This is one of the big things that gets me really - so much of Tory policy (and its knock-on effects) involves passing the buck, and it's almost never mentioned. Their flagship 'free childcare' policy is pretty much issuing a decree to childcare providers, "you're going to make this happen, out of your own pocket, work something out". Cuts are called 'efficiency savings' but they're never backed by a set of identified efficiencies, just "you're getting less funding, deal with it". Devolving powers and funding is just going to mean central government absolving itself of yet more responsibility and leave local government to work out which limb to cut off. Of course. They also still blaming 'the last government'. Facts. have no place here
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Nov 3, 2015 19:33
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StoneOfShame posted:They should just deal with the roads the way they were dealt with where I lived in the countryside around Derry, do nothing until the farmers get fed up and fill the pot holes themselves, not that they ever did a good job. The roads are especially bad around there because it's on a route between two places which have lots of trucks going between them, which destroys the roads but generates no local economic benefit.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:35
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StoneOfShame posted:They should just deal with the roads the way they were dealt with where I lived in the countryside around Derry, do nothing until the farmers get fed up and fill the pot holes themselves, not that they ever did a good job. Yeah it's called The Big Society, gently caress! Big Dave (HFADP) has a goal for society, and it's basically modelled on a post-apocalyptic survival community scenario
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Nov 3, 2015 19:35
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StoneOfShame posted:They should just deal with the roads the way they were dealt with where I lived in the countryside around Derry, do nothing until the farmers get fed up and fill the pot holes themselves, not that they ever did a good job. the Irish doing a shoddy job of laying tarmac you say?
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Nov 3, 2015 19:37
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Maybe we can hire the Luftwaffe to bomb London again, get some of that Blitz spirit going on.
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The Big Society is allegedly the only thing that David Cameron actually gave a poo poo about ever (in policy terms, obviously excluding dead pigs). Which, as it was an ill-conceived and ill-communicated mess, is pretty laffo. Basically he wanted people to be involved with the local area more, without actually noticing that the reason people aren't is because the Tories cut all of the local activity groups and encouraged the national and international movement of labour (partially as a side effect of destroying industries with significant non-transferable skills in order to kneecap the unions). MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Nov 3, 2015 19:38
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Healthcare bills are the biggest cause of bankruptcy in America, we do not want to go down that potholed road.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:39
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The roads are especially bad around there because it's on a route between two places which have lots of trucks going between them, which destroys the roads but generates no local economic benefit.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:39
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She needs massive cuts in government spending, not a new maternity unit.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:41
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It's telling that, from my experience and the experiences of friends I've been told about, the area that I've lived that has had the greatest "Big Society" feel is Cambridge, due to the university and high tech industry there encouraging people in the sciences to stick around for decades and decades and decades.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:41
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Big Society is allegedly the only thing that David Cameron actually gave a poo poo about ever (in policy terms, obviously excluding dead pigs). Which, as it was an ill-conceived and ill-communicated mess, is pretty laffo. he used to be big drug reform and gave a speech about it that upset all the old tories so he sold out the only thing he actually cared about to be successful
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Nov 3, 2015 19:51
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Maybe his new plan is to enable drug reform by cutting the police force/customs/border force so badly that they can't actually do anything about drugs.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:54
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Guavanaut posted:Maybe his new plan is to enable drug reform by cutting the police force/customs/border force so badly that they can't actually do anything about drugs. The cuts to UKAD (UK anti-doping) mean that they can barely do anything for professional sports, let alone amateur sports. So basically yes.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...nnabis-use.html from a little earlier in the year but: Three more police forces signal that they will turn blind eye to cannabis use PCC's in Derbyshire, Dorset and Surrey follow Durham in suggesting that catching dangerous criminals must take priority Three more police forces have signalled that those who grow cannabis for their own consumption will not be targeted, it has emerged. Those caught smoking or cultivating the drug on a small scale in Derbyshire, Dorset and Surrey, can expect to escape with little more than a caution, according to reports. The development comes after Durham Constabulary declared it would only go after people using the drug if there was a complaint or if they were being “blatant”. The change in attitudes will be seen as a further step towards decriminalisation and follows claims by drug experts that police forces across Britain are quietly turning a blind eye to cannabis use in order to focus their attentions on more pressing priorities. While the Government has insisted it has no intention of relaxing the laws on Class B narcotic, police chiefs have increasingly been taking a more lenient approach, with users more likely to receive a warning than face prosecution. Police and crime commissioners (PCCs) are understood to be coming under pressure to outline their priorities to chief constables. Alan Charles, Derbyshire's PCC, said he did not support legalisation but no longer expects officers to chase people growing cannabis for personal use. The former Labour councillor told the Daily Mail: "When we are faced with significant budget cuts we cannot keep turning out to every single thing reported to us." Kevin Hurley, Surrey's PCC, branded the row a "pointless debate", adding that answering 999 calls and catching dangerous criminals must come first. He said: "On the list of priorities cannabis moves a long way down the chain." The third PCC, Martyn Underhill of Dorset, said he supported Durham's stance and was keen to investigate.
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All of the benefits of legalization with none of the taxes. And the police still get to go after bla
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Some of that police time is now going to be dedicated to launching and monitoring police drones in my local area, apparently Warwickshire Police have launched a surveillance drone pilot scheme in my town  Does anyone have an air rifle I can borrow?
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Going back to NHS Chat for a bit, because it's one of the few areas where a majority of British people can all agree & not be saying something morally abhorrent, it's obviously great. It's also far from perfect. Compromises have to be made, some treatments are just not affordable, & yes, waiting lists can be depressingly wrong. And certainly in my neck of the woods, mental health care is clearly over-stretched. Because of that it's far too easy to slip through the gaps. But I fail to see how that's anything but the fault of "starve the beast" politics and while reforms certainly can be made to improve things, I'm instantly sceptical of anyone whose solution involves opening it up to private profit or mutters bullshit about choice. I don't want choice of which place to go for my treatment, I want to know I'll get the same standard of care no matter where in the country I live and I certainly don't want to waste time panicking about where I should go when my appendix is about to burst. Guavanaut posted:All of the benefits of legalization with none of the taxes.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The Big Society is allegedly the only thing that David Cameron actually gave a poo poo about ever (in policy terms, obviously excluding dead pigs). Which, as it was an ill-conceived and ill-communicated mess, is pretty laffo. Yeah, but why did he want that? I mean if your goal is to shrink the state and cut services, having local communities fend for themselves and rely on charity and altruism is definitely one way to go about it
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PlantHead posted:Are there any more nurses to hire? the NHS is one of the biggest employers in the world and the nursing care in the bigger hospitals on the normal wards is basically poo poo. The nursing care on the intensive care unit and plastics unit I spent a month on was exemplary. Serotonin fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Serotonin posted:The nursing care on the intensive care unit and plastics unit I spent a month on was exemplary The midwives on the labour ward I spent two and a half weeks on were all awesome too. Also the SCBU nurses from the 11 days my daughter spent in Special Care.
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baka kaba posted:Yeah, but why did he want that? I mean if your goal is to shrink the state and cut services, having local communities fend for themselves and rely on charity and altruism is definitely one way to go about it Cameron wants the benefits of communism under the tenets of capitalism.
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In fact everyone I have dealt with in the last 6 months of my illness has been a credit to the NHS, from the volunteers at the front of house who show people the right way to go, to the housekeeper on the ward who always made sure that food was available to me whenever I was being shipped off for scans etc, to the Consultant ITU who saved my life, the surgeon who saved my arm, the ITU nurse who wrote a diary daily for me to let me know what happened for the 10 days I was unconscious, the district nurses who came to see me at home and included my young kids in the care, and to the physios who for the last 4 months have been giving me daily physio and supporting me. Every loving one has been there for me and my family, going the extra mile, and I will cut anyone who says otherwise.
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I'm chatting on fb with a girl I've been flirting with at work and she's just started sending me links to dailymail.co.uk stories and I'm like should I eject right now or what
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PlantHead posted:Are there any more nurses to hire? the NHS is one of the biggest employers in the world and the nursing care in the bigger hospitals on the normal wards is basically poo poo. one major change that everyone agrees is required is and end to the chronic short staffing that means nurses are overworked and care standards have to suffer. if you can do that without spending more money total you're a magician. "biggest employer in the world" is a meaningless statistic. in other countries you'd get similar or higher nurse:patient ratios but because the health service is organised differently you'd not total them all up as under one employer.
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Serotonin posted:the ITU nurse who wrote a diary daily for me to let me know what happened for the 10 days I was unconscious
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Oberleutnant posted:That's cool as gently caress. Is that standard procedure? On the face of it it's such a small thing that it would seem inconsequential in the usual pressure and stress of working in a hospital but I bet it pays dividends in a patient's mental wellbeing after they wake up from being under for any unusually long length of time. No idea, i dont think so.
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Serotonin posted:In fact everyone I have dealt with in the last 6 months of my illness has been a credit to the NHS, from the volunteers at the front of house who show people the right way to go, to the housekeeper on the ward who always made sure that food was available to me whenever I was being shipped off for scans etc, to the Consultant ITU who saved my life, the surgeon who saved my arm, the ITU nurse who wrote a diary daily for me to let me know what happened for the 10 days I was unconscious, the district nurses who came to see me at home and included my young kids in the care, and to the physios who for the last 4 months have been giving me daily physio and supporting me. Zephro fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Oberleutnant posted:I'm chatting on fb with a girl I've been flirting with at work and she's just started sending me links to dailymail.co.uk stories and I'm like should I eject right now or what To be fair, she might have just misjudged you horribly. The only reasonable time to link a DM story is if it relates to archaeology, as the photos they put up are often amazingly good.
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Oberleutnant posted:I'm chatting on fb with a girl I've been flirting with at work and she's just started sending me links to dailymail.co.uk stories and I'm like should I eject right now or what Respond by sending her links to marxists.org
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Kegluneq posted:The only reasonable time to link a DM story is if it relates to archaeology, as the photos they put up are often amazingly good.
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Zephro posted:What on earth happened, if you don't mind me asking? Sounds like you were really unwell. Sero's arm got possessed by the spirit of Tories past and rotted to the bone almost instantly.
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Zephro posted:What on earth happened, if you don't mind me asking? Sounds like you were really unwell. I had a sore throat that progressed to flu like symptoms, which within 4 days became sepsis and septic shock and led to compartment syndrome, had a heart attack (medication induced), multi organ failure and pancreatitis. To save my arm they had to do a fasciotomy, and left my arm looking like this  http://i.imgur.com/Q1OtLJY.jpg6 months later it looks like this: https://twitter.com/apooins/status/660766845994147840 Ive been left pretty disabled,as my right hand/arm really doesnt work very well, hence the 4 months of daily intensive hand physio. Still, at one point they were sure I was a goner or at least would lose the arm.
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Serotonin posted:I had a sore throat that progressed to flu like symptoms, which within 4 days became sepsis and septic shock and led to compartment syndrome, had a heart attack (medication induced), multi organ failure and pancreatitis. Jesus Christ.
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Pissflaps posted:Jesus Christ. Manflu can kill
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MrL_JaKiri posted:It's telling that, from my experience and the experiences of friends I've been told about, the area that I've lived that has had the greatest "Big Society" feel is Cambridge, due to the university and high tech industry there encouraging people in the sciences to stick around for decades and decades and decades. Small, rural, poor villages have that, I lived near one called Greysteel and it had a great community.
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Serotonin posted:I had a sore throat that progressed to flu like symptoms, which within 4 days became sepsis and septic shock and led to compartment syndrome, had a heart attack (medication induced), multi organ failure and pancreatitis. What on earth was the original cause?
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Serotonin posted:I had a sore throat that progressed to flu like symptoms, which within 4 days became sepsis and septic shock and led to compartment syndrome, had a heart attack (medication induced), multi organ failure and pancreatitis.  Really sorry to hear that...Was it a bacterial infection that somehow got into your blood?
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