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People were trying to tell me last night that EMay has a legitimate chance of being named Environmental Minister tomorrow? I thought that idea was just some dumb Facebook petition?
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Yeah, what exactly is the incentive for JT to appoint a non-Liberal to his cabinet?
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Nov 3, 2015 21:48
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Why, show everyone that he's one of the Good Guys by making a non-partisan appointment!
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Nov 3, 2015 21:51
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Stephane Dion is a much better bet.
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DariusLikewise posted:People were trying to tell me last night that EMay has a legitimate chance of being named Environmental Minister tomorrow? I thought that idea was just some dumb Facebook petition? If you were having a beer with Gerry Butts, take it seriously. If not, don't.
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Nov 3, 2015 22:00
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So I guess schools are getting bomb threats from crazy people angry at Unions now in Canada
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Nov 3, 2015 22:06
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Professor Shark posted:So I guess schools are getting bomb threats from crazy people angry at Unions now in Canada I work at a college in the GTA and we had one today. It was business as usual after they checked it out.
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Giving a major cabinet position to somebody who ran against you would make JT's embrace of Eve Adams look like a brilliant strategic play. Tipps posted:Who cooked up these stats considering ~37% of people voted for the two parties which ran on platforms consisting primarily of anti-Muslim rhetoric. Racism isn't that one dimensional. You can have anxieties about foreign cultures without consciously wishing ill will upon foreigners. Hating someone's cultural is intolerant and primes you to be politically receptive to xenophobic policies but it's different from 'old school' racism that emphasizes biological inferiority. Obviously these questions get very complicated, all the more so because people are so uncomfortable discussing these issues to begin with, but I don't think it's very analytically useful to treat all prejudice against culture as being synonymous with what we conventionally label "racism". Of course this also works in reverse: some people revere "foreign" cultures or practices while remaining racist. At bare minimum I would think discussing Canadian racism would require some kind of graph with two axes on it instead of a single line going from 'racist' to 'not-racist'. You only have to go back very far in our history to find times when much uglier and more explicit forms of race baiting were acceptable in public discourse. Old John A Macdonald wanted to take away CI's right to draw a penis on his ballot, for instance, based on explicitly racialist arguments. To be clear I agree Canada is a very racist country (and it's grimly funny that Canadians are convinced otherwise) but it's a very 'post-modern' form of racism compared to a generation or two ago.
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Professor Shark posted:So I guess schools are getting bomb threats from crazy people angry at Unions now in Canada Man, back in my day it was crazy people that didn't study for the math exam and wanted an extra two days before they had to write it (and they still didn't use those two days to study)
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quote:TORONTO (AP) — The company behind the controversial Keystone XL pipeline from Canada to the U.S Gulf Coast has asked the U.S. State Department to pause its review of the project.
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Nov 3, 2015 22:42
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"Hey guys, why not wait until a Republican gets elected for president, then he'll unroll the red carpet and we won't have to do any of this review poo poo?"
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Nov 3, 2015 22:45
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Helsing posted:Giving a major cabinet position to somebody who ran against you would make JT's embrace of Eve Adams look like a brilliant strategic play. You are such a good poster. Want to start a politics blog with me?
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DariusLikewise posted:People were trying to tell me last night that EMay has a legitimate chance of being named Environmental Minister tomorrow? I thought that idea was just some dumb Facebook petition? May dismissed this outright a week ago on P&P. It's idiotic.
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Nov 3, 2015 23:17
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Professor Shark posted:So I guess schools are getting bomb threats from crazy people angry at Unions now in Canada I hope they get angry at Nursing unions yet, we could use the attention.
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Nov 3, 2015 23:23
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Crowsbeak posted:Is there any talk of dumping Mulclair for the election fallout? Dumping the elections team is a much better idea.
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Nov 3, 2015 23:25
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Helsing posted:To be clear I agree Canada is a very racist country (and it's grimly funny that Canadians are convinced otherwise) but it's a very 'post-modern' form of racism compared to a generation or two ago. The statistics surrounding the police and people of colour in Ontario, for example, are shocking. Like the incidence of a police killing a non-white person is astronomically higher than it is in the the worst of the US states. Of course that's because the police in the US kill way more people than they do in Ontario but still, Canada's relative decentralization means that the nation as a whole has never had to confront its own racist past, since that past is spread over a dozen places, with different patterns of immigration, ethnic enclaves, and urban/rural divides.
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Helsing posted:To be clear I agree Canada is a very racist country (and it's grimly funny that Canadians are convinced otherwise) but it's a very 'post-modern' form of racism compared to a generation or two ago. The thought of "old stock" whites patting themselves on the back for being so cosmopolitan and tolerant because a brown family moved-in down the street is hillarious. 
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I'm back from my sabbatical from Canpol a weebit early, because I will at Rideau Hall for cabinet swearing in, and nice new thread guys, I plan on shitposting alot. Anyways, so John Ivison posted an article saying That essentially some of the women picked for cabinet are unknowns, and probably don't deserve to be there and one of the possible cabinet ministers fired backCalling him out Also, I am loving sick of this "Merit" based cabinet furor. What happened to the "Embarassament of riches" narrative you had last week? (Not this thread, the media). Every time you mentioned it, there sure as poo poo were several high profile female names then.
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"Merit" just means "you need to provide a VERY GOOD REASON to hire/appoint someone other than the default white dude".
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Pretty much. What's particularly galling to me is that last week they were talking about how qualified so many women were
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Nov 4, 2015 01:14
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So glad to hear you're ~making a difference~
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Cultural Imperial posted:So glad to hear you're ~making a difference~ Well, at least I'm not you, so, hey, at least I can look myself in the mirror and not immediately burst out in tears.
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Supercar Gautier posted:"Merit" just means "you need to provide a VERY GOOD REASON to hire/appoint someone other than the default white dude". In practice, you're correct, but in theory it shouldn't be an issue. My riding voted out a woman and replaced her with a man, and gender had nothing to do with it. One was clearly a better choice than the other. I didn't dislike Joan Crockett because she was a woman, I disliked her because she was unpleasant, never tried to campaign properly, was affiliated with a horrible party, and held terrible opinions. While I would like more women and minorities to be in the House of Commons to better reflect the makeup of the population, I'm very happy that the one particular woman who used to be my MP is no longer my MP.
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That must be the first time I've seen someone write "limited opportunity for white males from Toronto". And it came in the same sentence as a suggestion that Bill Blair may have to cool his heels, which is great news if true.
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bunnyofdoom posted:I am loving sick of this "Merit" based cabinet furor. James Moore, Joe Oliver, Pierre Poilievre, Peter Van Loan, Julian Fantino, Maxime Bernier, Vic Toews, Chris Alexander. Merit.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:32
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How do you leave Rona Ambrose off that list?
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tagesschau posted:James Moore, Joe Oliver, Pierre Poilievre, Peter Van Loan, Julian Fantino, Maxime Bernier, Vic Toews, Chris Alexander.
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Ikantski posted:How do you leave Rona Ambrose off that list? Seriously. Rona Ambrose, Leona Aglukkaq, Bev Oda, Lisa Raitt. Merit.
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Nov 4, 2015 02:56
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I hate all those names
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Was there a not-lovely conservative minister? James Moore is the only one I can think of that didn't do or say anything extraordinarily bad.
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Flaherty? e:Moore had those tweets about how child poverty wasn't his problem, but he also broke ranks and voted in favour of gay marriage so I'd say that earns him a free foot extraction. flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Are you loving kidding me? Flaherty was instrumental in executing Harper's strategy to cut government and 'starve the beast' of tax revenue, specifically by cutting the GST. gently caress that fat gently caress and I hope he died screaming.
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In lieu of a post-election consultation, please participate in this cynical data-mining exercise in which you can tell the NDP which parts of their platform you liked the most. And select from nuanced options such as "Canadians voted for change. New Democrats should work with Justin Trudeau to deliver that change." "The Liberals have a majority government – and need a strong NDP opposition to hold them to account." or "New Democrats should work with the Liberal government on issues we agree on, but hold them to account as the opposition." brucio posted:Was there a not-lovely conservative minister? Baird made LGBT rights abroad a foreign policy priority for Canada 
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Nov 4, 2015 03:31
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There was a reason I wanted a new thread instead of just moving the old one here~
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Pinterest Mom posted:And select from nuanced options such as You left out the best one. "The Liberals have no plan to reverse cuts to health care, establish a $15 an hour federal minimum wage, or create affordable childcare. We must continue fighting for these issues."
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Slightly Toasted posted:Seriously. Right, but they aren't the white men that people are worried are going to be unfairly shut out of cabinet.  Same reason I didn't include Penashue.
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Someone's gonna read my angry survey reply, sigh and delete it.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Are you loving kidding me? Flaherty was instrumental in executing Harper's strategy to cut government and 'starve the beast' of tax revenue, specifically by cutting the GST. gently caress that fat gently caress and I hope he died screaming. Consumption taxes are regressive.
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mr. unhsib posted:Consumption taxes are regressive. If you quote him, you kind of defeat the point of an ignore list.
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Consumption taxes are regressive as gently caress but unless you're going to boost the upper personal tax brackets or corporate taxes significantly then making even relatively small cuts to consumption taxes is going to gently caress our public service even more. Unfortunately neither the LPC or NDP have the balls to cut consumption taxes and claim that revenue from sources on the top end.
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