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So I'm watching the Clone Wars on Netflix and they just introduced a bad guy character named Savage Oppress. Like that's literally his name. Oh, and of course he's Darth Maul's brother, and of course Darth Maul survived Episode 1.
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Nov 2, 2015 08:00
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Xenomrph posted:So I'm watching the Clone Wars on Netflix and they just introduced a bad guy character named Savage Oppress. Like that's literally his name. Oh, and of course he's Darth Maul's brother, and of course Darth Maul survived Episode 1. I can't for the life of me understand why the Clone Wars gets such a good rap around here. Outside of maybe 5 or so episodes it's just as bad as anything else in the EU.
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Nov 2, 2015 08:02
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Pook Good Mook posted:I can't for the life of me understand why the Clone Wars gets such a good rap around here. Outside of maybe 5 or so episodes it's just as bad as anything else in the EU. Oh and the SW Wiki informs me that a bunch of episodes are written by Katie Lucas. As in, George's daughter. Holy LOL
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Nov 2, 2015 08:20
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Pook Good Mook posted:The "trend" of internet critics making GBS threads on RLM because is getting old. Yes we agree he's a bit overexposed but I never see anyone actually argue againts what he's saying. RLM is commendable because it takes an exhaustive look at how bad these movies are, which is difficult because they are bad in a full-spectrum, every metric imaginable way. Before RLM there was a pretty strong undercurrent of nerds who insisted that the prequels were good because reasons and "Well in Issue 1, Page 3 it's explained." RLM has largely killed every one of those inane arguments, so you can post the reviews at people in response to their tired 10-15 year-old mental gymnastics (instead of making the mistake of engaging them), and it's like hitting a vampire with sunlight. As far as the EU, it's tainted both by having to use the prequels as a source and with the same shameless recycling of plot devices. The Empire/Imperial Remnant is still sputtering on nearly fifty years after the Battle of Endor (two and a half generations of people!), every Dark Side bad guy is a Darth with a red lightsaber who shoots lightning, nothing ever really changes. The origin material that Star Wars was adapted from is far more vast than Star Wars itself, and has continued to evolve after the release of Star Wars. The EU just gets more stale and everything Yoda had to say in ESB is completely ignored. Everything is about the latest DBZ villain whose power level is a thousand times greater than the last, and who has a million more ships than the last battle. If the writing had any self-awareness, it would rival Warhammer for grimdarkness. quote:I can't for the life of me understand why the Clone Wars gets such a good rap around here. Outside of maybe 5 or so episodes it's just as bad as anything else in the EU. It's approximately as good as a Saturday morning cartoon.
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Nov 2, 2015 08:30
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It's a thing that happens with a lot of intellectual properties and spin offs, but is pretty pronounced in star wars: instead of referencing a Kurosawa film or fighting war elephants in the Punic Wars or whatever, it stops reaching outside itself for "fresh" inspiration and just becomes a ouroboros of incestuous self-reference. You get it second and third hand, a copy of a copy of a copy.
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Nov 2, 2015 08:41
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Starkk posted:not if all those pizza rolls have their way with his heart Good. He sucks and is bad.
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Nov 2, 2015 08:51
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i get not liking the "character" gags and skits. they wear pretty drat thin and get more and more self-indulgent.* but they still did the lord's work by providing a thorough post-mortem on everything that rubbed you the wrong way that you couldn't quite put your finger on and articulate because it was just a full-spectrum badness and not everyone is familiar with production techniques and the language of cinema and poo poo. *maybe this is clever meta-commentary, but probably not
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Nov 2, 2015 08:55
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quote:*maybe this is clever meta-commentary, but probably not It's meta, a method of breaking up the review so it's not just a marathon of displeasure, and a way of approaching it with a level of humility missing from most video reviews, i.e. "I'm not above any of what I'm talking about, and writing four hours of video review for really bad movies is inherently ridiculous."
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Nov 2, 2015 09:01
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:It's meta, a method of breaking up the review so it's not just a marathon of displeasure, and a way of approaching it with a level of humility missing from most video reviews, i.e. "I'm not above any of what I'm talking about, and writing four hours of video review for really bad movies is inherently ridiculous." I love how "meta" is now a societally-accepted excuse for being awful and unfunny and annoying.
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Nov 2, 2015 09:09
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Pook Good Mook posted:I can't for the life of me understand why the Clone Wars gets such a good rap around here. Outside of maybe 5 or so episodes it's just as bad as anything else in the EU. It's Star Wars cartoon TV so of course it's often terrible, but the mere fact that maybe half of it is adequate makes it stand out.
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Nov 2, 2015 09:49
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I love how "meta" is now a societally-accepted excuse for being awful and unfunny and annoying. How do you feel about the inventions segments on MST3K
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Nov 2, 2015 14:41
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clone wars is the perfect show to watch while playing a video game like ftl. you can tune out during the boring episodes and then pay attention to the clone trooper stuff. like its just pretty decent and it actually does some interesting stuff sometimes. rebels is way better though
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Nov 2, 2015 17:26
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This better be cannon in the new movies.... http://www.bluemilkspecial.com/?p=7056
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Nov 3, 2015 03:54
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Booblord Zagats posted:How do you feel about the inventions segments on MST3K I can take or leave them, honestly.
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Nov 3, 2015 03:57
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mr.capps posted:clone wars is the perfect show to watch while playing a video game like ftl. you can tune out during the boring episodes and then pay attention to the clone trooper stuff. like its just pretty decent and it actually does some interesting stuff sometimes. The trooper stuff is definitely the best. Even for a kid's show they don't shy away from killing a bunch of people.
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Nov 3, 2015 04:03
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http://epicstream.com/news/The-Force-Awakens-Actors-Want-Dying-Star-Wars-Fan-To-See-Film-Earlyquote:Director JJ Abrams has a history of granting similar wishes. In 2013, he showed Daniel Craft a rough cut of Star Trek Into Darkness five months before it was released. Craft was terminally ill with cancer, and passed away after seeing the movie. i knew it was pretty bad, but I had no idea it was that bad. 
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Nov 3, 2015 04:04
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I can take or leave them, honestly. On that note the rifftraxes for the prequels are prettyu funny and good, but still not quite enough to stop you from feeling fatigued 2/3 of the way through
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Nov 3, 2015 04:08
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RFC2324 posted:This better be cannon in the new movies.... Meaning, chainsaw shot out of a cannon?
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Nov 3, 2015 18:38
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blowfish posted:It's Star Wars cartoon TV so of course it's often terrible, but the mere fact that maybe half of it is adequate makes it stand out. The 2003 one was pretty good. At least for the first half. Second half is a bit goofy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c__EdPiU0No
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Nov 3, 2015 19:11
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is the cartoon canon or is it just the cgi one
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Nov 3, 2015 19:15
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SaltLick posted:is the cartoon canon or is it just the cgi one It was up until the CGI one came out, I think.
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Nov 3, 2015 19:31
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TK-42-1 posted:It was up until the CGI one came out, I think. I do wish they'd brought Durge back for the CGI cartoon. An unstoppable regenerating rear end in a top hat lunatic, whom Anakin finally kills by ejecting him out an airlock and into a star. 
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Nov 3, 2015 20:14
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Ivor Biggun posted:Alderaan was an inside job. Lol at the official story still going around. Wake up Bantheeple! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2dvv-Yib1Xg
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Nov 3, 2015 20:36
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silvergoose posted:Meaning, chainsaw shot out of a cannon? Have you never seen Evil Dead?
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Nov 3, 2015 23:49
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has there ever been a jedi or sith that used their force powers to be really really really good shots instead of on using the laser sword
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Nov 4, 2015 03:55
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Fojar38 posted:has there ever been a jedi or sith that used their force powers to be really really really good shots instead of on using the laser sword I think Mara Jade... until she learned to use a laser sword, of course.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:56
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if you have two dudes with the same force power then the one with a gun should beat the one with the laser sword every time
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Nov 4, 2015 03:57
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Doubt you need a special skill to use the force to guide your shots, likely just intuition that is a normal passive force power. Learning to fight with a sword is frigin hard in the first place, much less one that will kill you if you screw up.
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Nov 4, 2015 03:58
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so uncivilized
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Nov 4, 2015 04:00
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Pook Good Mook posted:Doubt you need a special skill to use the force to guide your shots, likely just intuition that is a normal passive force power. There is a reason that, in the real world, you train with a wooden sword weighted to have similar balance to steel, instead of starting with live steel, even for solo practice.
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Nov 4, 2015 04:30
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I always wondered why people just never used shotguns to fight Jedi. Seems like they would be more useful than a blaster.
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Nov 4, 2015 04:42
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sleepy.eyes posted:I always wondered why people just never used shotguns to fight Jedi. Seems like they would be more useful than a blaster. In Dark Forces 2, the repeater had a shotgun alt-fire mode, it was pretty good for whittling down dude's with light sabers
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Nov 4, 2015 04:44
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those three eyed guys with the bandoliers of grenades. 
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Nov 4, 2015 04:54
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Jedi Outcast and Jedi Knight had flachette launchers which I'd imagine are pretty much the perfect weapon to use against Jedis. Speaking of, is there a reasonable explanation why they don't have personal shield generators in Star Wars (not counting the games)?
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Nov 4, 2015 04:57
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Otisburg posted:http://epicstream.com/news/The-Force-Awakens-Actors-Want-Dying-Star-Wars-Fan-To-See-Film-Early wouldn't it be depressing if the movie was phantom menace bad and he did get to see it early and hated it.
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Nov 4, 2015 05:01
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sleepy.eyes posted:I always wondered why people just never used shotguns to fight Jedi. Seems like they would be more useful than a blaster. In one of the lovely books thats basically about Jacen and Jaina Solo, Han Solo's evil cousin uses gas and sonic weapons, but still no one thinks of a shotgun. Wait, I know! Karen Traviss came up with this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Verpine_shatter_gun
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Nov 4, 2015 05:12
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Otisburg posted:those three eyed guys with the bandoliers of grenades. those guys are the best
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Nov 4, 2015 05:19
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those rodians with the sniper rifle were the loving worst. gently caress nar shaddaa level so much
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Nov 4, 2015 05:22
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sleepy.eyes posted:I always wondered why people just never used shotguns to fight Jedi. Seems like they would be more useful than a blaster. Wouldn't Jedi just force push back the pellets?
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Young Freud posted:Wouldn't Jedi just force push back the pellets? Only if their reaction times are measured in nanoseconds.
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Nov 4, 2015 05:52
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