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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:I'm not saying it doesn't happen or that it's impossible, just that it's hard. How is this a difficult concept for you to grasp? Semisponge posted:The people who made it to America were the lucky ones who didn't starve in a gutter. Yup
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VendaGoat posted:Motherfucking grow a pair. "Why don't poor people just like, not be poor?"
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VendaGoat posted:WTF is there, to keep people there? Since this is the most epic derail of all time, I won't go into intense amounts of depth but simply: English Canada has a long history of being super lovely to the Natives. Thanks to some dick moves on the behalf of the English, so, so many Natives were killed, leading to the Indian Act and the Department of Indian Affairs, which was basically created to make sure that by like, 1950 or so, we wouldn't have any Natives. Reserves here were a way to monitor the population and eventually assimilate them. Later, when it became apparent this wouldn't happen, provisions were set so that Natives could get a few government benefits (none of which are good, most of which actively promote stagnation and poverty). Coming off the reserves means a) you're agreeing to assimilation, which for a lot of people, is obviously pretty unattractive considering broken treaties, cool moves like forcibly removing Natives and granting their land to white people after WWI, residential schools, etc, etc and b) going to lose contact with your community for the most part and c) be shoved into the urban centre of a country that still, in a lot of cases, treats you like loving garbage. But yes, also crushing debt plays into that, too, obviously. Finally, the Indigenous population isn't homogeneous; some do move into urban centres, but it's a lot more complicated than just "move to Etobicoke and buy a house". Also, speaking of Natives, my roommate's boss took down a moose a few days ago and my roommate got some. I missed my chance to try any.  ANYWAY:  
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cash crab posted:Since this is the most epic derail of all time, I won't go into intense amounts of depth but simply: English Canada has a long history of being super lovely to the Natives. Thanks to some dick moves on the behalf of the English, so, so many Natives were killed, leading to the Indian Act and the Department of Indian Affairs, which was basically created to make sure that by like, 1950 or so, we wouldn't have any Natives. Reserves here were a way to monitor the population and eventually assimilate them. Later, when it became apparent this wouldn't happen, provisions were set so that Natives could get a few government benefits (none of which are good, most of which actively promote stagnation and poverty). Coming off the reserves means a) you're agreeing to assimilation, which for a lot of people, is obviously pretty unattractive considering broken treaties, cool moves like forcibly removing Natives and granting their land to white people after WWI, residential schools, etc, etc and b) going to lose contact with your community for the most part and c) be shoved into the urban centre of a country that still, in a lot of cases, treats you like loving garbage. But yes, also crushing debt plays into that, too, obviously. Finally, the Indigenous population isn't homogeneous; some do move into urban centres, but it's a lot more complicated than just "move to Etobicoke and buy a house". Thank you. They do not teach this poo poo in American Public School.. I would have no idea without you, humble and loving Cash crab, to teach me. In return I give you, what I can only assume, is a pie full of polliwogs. 
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chitoryu12 posted:Guess who got a Russian military ration in the mail? That does not look safe to eat. I might consider throwing it away instead of poisoning yourself.
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VendaGoat posted:Thank you. They do not teach this poo poo in American Public School.. I would have no idea without you, humble and loving Cash crab, to teach me. Passion fruit is my favorite fruit but I won't deny that eating it makes you look like you're scooping out an alien embryo with a spoon.
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cash crab posted:Since this is the most epic derail of all time, I won't go into intense amounts of depth but simply: English Canada has a long history of being super lovely to the Natives. Thanks to some dick moves on the behalf of the English, so, so many Natives were killed, leading to the Indian Act and the Department of Indian Affairs, which was basically created to make sure that by like, 1950 or so, we wouldn't have any Natives. Reserves here were a way to monitor the population and eventually assimilate them. Later, when it became apparent this wouldn't happen, provisions were set so that Natives could get a few government benefits (none of which are good, most of which actively promote stagnation and poverty). Coming off the reserves means a) you're agreeing to assimilation, which for a lot of people, is obviously pretty unattractive considering broken treaties, cool moves like forcibly removing Natives and granting their land to white people after WWI, residential schools, etc, etc and b) going to lose contact with your community for the most part and c) be shoved into the urban centre of a country that still, in a lot of cases, treats you like loving garbage. But yes, also crushing debt plays into that, too, obviously. Finally, the Indigenous population isn't homogeneous; some do move into urban centres, but it's a lot more complicated than just "move to Etobicoke and buy a house". You cover enough of the major points to get the point across, but even this is still just the tip of the iceberg. I'm always waffling on making a thread about First Nations History in Canada, as well as modern racism, but even I sorta feel like I wouldn't do a good enough job of explaining it. Edit: I'll leave you a quote from one of the heads of the department of indian affairs regarding the death rates in Residential Schools. quote:It is readily acknowledged that Indian Children lose their natural resistance to illness by habituating so closely in the residential schools and that they die at a much higher rate than in their villages. But this does not justify a change in the policy of this department which is geared toward a final solution of our Indian problem. Tiberius Thyben has a new favorite as of 05:35 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nine of Eight posted:Botulism, is that you? The packaging was all sealed. In fact, it was kinda difficult to open! I've eaten two Ukrainian rations before and this is very similar in content, just with more amenities like different beverages and a tiny little fuel tablet stove with matches. It's bland and extremely greasy, but the rations in use 10 years ago were apparently 50% fat so I think I got the long end of the stick historically. It's also very clearly the lowest quality beef they could get. It's stringy and tough where it isn't soft, and not all of the fat melted during cooking. The discoloration is actually fat and black pepper embedded in it.
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:That does not look safe to eat. I might consider throwing it away instead of poisoning yourself.
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chitoryu12 posted:Guess who got a Russian military ration in the mail? Do it. Figure out how to do a dead hand post in case you die though.
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I've got a record this year of eating international military rations. So far I've eaten every American ration available (including the freeze dried MCW and LRP rations that you never see anywhere), British, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, and currently Russian. Just about all of them turn out looking like anti-food porn, but they vary widely in taste and amenities. As much as soldiers make fun of American MREs, they're easily some of the best in terms of taste and texture. Lithuanian MRE clones are likewise pretty nice and even have some quality Lithuanian chocolate. Ukrainian is the worst. One meal usually gets you nothing but a can of meat or kasha similar in appearance to that monstrosity, a pack full of crackers (which have inevitably gone stale in the cellophane), and a packet of crystallized tea and brown sugar to pour in your mug of hot water. I'll see what I can pull up for this thread.
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This is a pox blanket and I do not accept Tiberius Thyben posted:You cover enough of the major points to get the point across, but even this is still just the tip of the iceberg. I'm always waffling on making a thread about First Nations History in Canada, as well as modern racism, but even I sorta feel like I wouldn't do a good enough job of explaining it.  Sidenote: The term First Nations actively omits Métis and Inuit populations. I've always wanted to make a PYF historical funfacts thread, one of which would be the Mi'qmak assessment of French people, which is that they were under the impression that the French were idiots because they couldn't shave their own faces and "ate wood" (stale biscuits). Also, the part where they literally sold the shirts off their own backs because MAN did they love copper pots.
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cash crab posted:Since this is the most epic derail of all time, I won't go into intense amounts of depth but simply: English Canada has a long history of being super lovely to the Natives. We also destroyed any infrastructure the reserves have so the majority of them don't even have clean drinking water, working filtration plants or even access to healthcare. A huge amount of the reserves have very few roads leading in and out, with most if not all of them being washed out or frozen over during specific seasons. Planes are really the only viable way to get anything up there and half the time they don't fly regular schedules either, so good luck getting anything. Had we not tanked the seal hunting industry, which was one of the only sustainable industries for several northern communities, the situation probably wouldn't have gotten so bad. But hey, lovely seals that destroy the ecosystem and then starve to death like the lovely idiot assholes they are is more important than people making a living, because seals are tooootally cuter than natives.
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cash crab posted:This is a pox blanket and I do not accept I'm aware! But I grew up on a reserve in Northern Alberta, and am more knowledgeable about plains peoples, specifically the areas covered by Treaties 5-8 (and 10). Would also cover Metis, I suppose, but I didn't think I needed to say exactly what such a hypothetical thread would cover in a thread about bad food. Tiberius Thyben has a new favorite as of 05:54 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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chitoryu12 posted:I've got a record this year of eating international military rations. So far I've eaten every American ration available (including the freeze dried MCW and LRP rations that you never see anywhere), British, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, and currently Russian. Just about all of them turn out looking like anti-food porn, but they vary widely in taste and amenities. As much as soldiers make fun of American MREs, they're easily some of the best in terms of taste and texture. Lithuanian MRE clones are likewise pretty nice and even have some quality Lithuanian chocolate. The US military shares all of the food technology they develop for MREs with the private sector so that if we ever go to war they'll already be equipped to start churning them out for the war effort, and as a result a lot of processed food is now made with military technology; if you've ever made macaroni and cheese with a powdered cheese mix or put freeze-dried coffee in a mug of hot water then you're basically one step removed from actual military rations. A good write-up, and also relevant to the thread in parts.  Ozmoroni, processed pepperoni dehydrated via osmosis to make it shelf-stable as part of the ongoing effort to make a pizza MRE.
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cash crab posted:This is a pox blanket and I do not accept
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Tiberius Thyben posted:I'm aware! But I grew up on a reserve in Northern Alberta, and am more knowledgeable about plains peoples, specifically the areas covered by Treaties 5-8 (and 10). Would also cover Metis, I suppose, but I didn't think I needed to say exactly what such a hypothetical thread would cover. Oh, I'm sorry. That was really meant more as a side fact, because even in Canada, a lot of people get really confused about the difference, which leads a lot of people to think First Nations is just the politically correct term. Suffice to say, this was probably pretty irrelevant for you! Also: I grew up in Alberta, too! Let's start a club where we collect warm clothing. Anyway, it would be cool if you started such a thread, but I have no idea where you would file it but I would be interested to see it. Horrible Smutbeast posted:We also destroyed any infrastructure the reserves have so the majority of them don't even have clean drinking water, working filtration plants or even access to healthcare. A huge amount of the reserves have very few roads leading in and out, with most if not all of them being washed out or frozen over during specific seasons. Planes are really the only viable way to get anything up there and half the time they don't fly regular schedules either, so good luck getting anything. ^^^ Yeah, this is a better explanation of why a case of water is like, $104 in some places in Nunavut. On topic:  CORN
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cash crab posted:Oh, I'm sorry. That was really meant more as a side fact, because even in Canada, a lot of people get really confused about the difference, which leads a lot of people to think First Nations is just the politically correct term. Suffice to say, this was probably pretty irrelevant for you! Also: I grew up in Alberta, too! Let's start a club where we collect warm clothing. Anyway, it would be cool if you started such a thread, but I have no idea where you would file it but I would be interested to see it. What the hell is expected to happen once this goes in the oven?
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Aesop Poprock posted:What the hell is expected to happen once this goes in the oven? Uhh, you get popped corn.
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Aesop Poprock posted:What the hell is expected to happen once this goes in the oven? corn bread
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Aesop Poprock posted:What the hell is expected to happen once this goes in the oven? Warm loose corn
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Yeah. To add to the history, the racism still is pretty present and not talked about. Reserves literally have third world conditions, even ones more south. Canadians actually attempted genocide on the native populations. And yes there were armed revolts, which gave us Manitoba and Saskatchewan. So yes there is one interesting fact about Saskatchewan. (I could contribute a little about modern metis, at least in Ontario).
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Sleeveless posted:
I loving love fruit rollups... oh... I would loving love that too.
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chitoryu12 posted:I've got a record this year of eating international military rations. Are you keeping a blog or somehow documenting this bizarre endeavor?
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cash crab posted:On topic: All I can think is that a bird somehow gained access to a kitchen and decided to make the tastiest meal it could imagine.
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chitoryu12 posted:...and a packet of crystallized tea and brown sugar to pour in your mug of hot water. aka "bitter diarrhoea water" Who the gently caress even buys instant tea anyway? Instant coffee makes sense since you don't end up with grounds that get everywhere and a coffee maker that needs cleaning. But tea is like, put a bag into water, take it out 3 minutes later, drop into bin.
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Loose corn and... goat turds*? Husband material indeed. * Turns out the turds are, in fact, chicken hearts. Phaeoacremonium has a new favorite as of 10:58 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Phaeoacremonium posted:Loose corn and... goat turds? Husband material indeed. He's so cocky we might have rolled back into self-deprecation.
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Phaeoacremonium posted:Loose corn and... goat turds? Husband material indeed. He typed angrily, surveying his empty apartment. One day, a woman worthy of my standards shall entreat onto my man den, he thought. But not today. He dug into his meal, chewing with purpose and staring at the wall. One day.
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cyberia posted:Are you keeping a blog or somehow documenting this bizarre endeavor? Not a proper blog, but I've been studiously taking pictures of what I eat. A lot of the weird stuff I do is for reference material for writing and such.
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Tasteful Dickpic posted:Perhaps a thread is in order? Maybe, if there was enough interest to keep it active while I'm not in the middle of chomping on army food.
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How Americans will rebuild the great barrier reef.
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cash crab posted:Oh, I'm sorry. That was really meant more as a side fact, because even in Canada, a lot of people get really confused about the difference, which leads a lot of people to think First Nations is just the politically correct term. Suffice to say, this was probably pretty irrelevant for you! Also: I grew up in Alberta, too! Let's start a club where we collect warm clothing. Anyway, it would be cool if you started such a thread, but I have no idea where you would file it but I would be interested to see it. Is that being cooked in a subwoofer?
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Decrepus posted:I loving love fruit rollups... oh... I would loving love that too. Who has two thumbs and would shank a bitch for a case of these? ME!
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Phaeoacremonium posted:Loose corn and... goat turds*? Husband material indeed. People who make a big deal about "when I cook" kind of mystify me. What do you eat the nights that you don't Instagram your food? Are you the person in front of me at the grocery store with a cart full of Lean Cuisines? I will cop to having instagrammed a meal or two when I'm especially proud of something. But I also cook dinner pretty much every night.
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