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Kill all white people except for me and my friends and family and their friends and families and so on, but everyone else.
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greatn posted:Kill all white people except for me and my friends and family and their friends and families and so on, but everyone else. These GOP candidate demands are getting stranger by the day
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Nov 4, 2015 18:45
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zen death robot posted:I'd settle for elections being on a holiday or at least a weekend. What's this Lipstick Apathy tag under your name?
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Nov 4, 2015 18:46
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sean10mm posted:I have nothing against them personally, but rural whites vote overwhelmingly for people and things that are super bad for America all the time. All they have to do is invoke religion and "THEY are coming for YOUR things" and they literally get whatever they want. Like... that's not even hyperbole. The entire education initiative in Mississippi was defeated by one single claim: "a LIBERAL judge will be in charge of doling out money to schools." Which is stupid and untrue - but when did that ever matter? Just the use of the word liberal sent people here into a frothing rage and they voted against their own best interests. edit: Uh... where'd this "Pillbug" avatar thing come from?
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Noam Chomsky posted:It needs funding and signatures to get on the ballot. Neither of those will happen after beating Issue 3 just got. I have some confidence they could get it on the ballot, but who knows. I figured the only reason that some of the legal weed people were against issue 3 was because they thought they could get a new initiative on the ballot next year. Otherwise, they definitely shot themselves in the foot.
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Gravel Gravy posted:These GOP candidate demands are getting stranger by the day seems about the same to me
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Word in Twitter is the UK is investigating the Russian plane that went down in Egypt and that it may have been brought down by an explosive device. EDIT: I guess this really isn't US Political news.
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Nov 4, 2015 18:48
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MariusLecter posted:Guillotine them all. Macy's shopping, wine slurping, SUV driving, pieces of bourgeoisie shits. Hey we do not shop at Macy's anymore.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Word in Twitter is the UK is investigating the Russian plane that went down in Egypt and that it may have been brought down by an explosive device. I look forward to some additional needless restrictions next time I fly.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:You do know that was a hoax right? Nah, there was a fake surveillance video released after the fact but there definitely was a friendly hitchhiking robot that made it to Philly before being murdered
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euphronius posted:Hey we do not shop at Macy's anymore. Is Kohls middle class approved?
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Trabisnikof posted:Chill out buddy. You just started talking about how mailing ballots were so great, and I pointed out one of many disenfranchised communities by mailing ballots. Don't take things so personally. Election day being a national holiday and mail-in ballots are both two non-contridictory pro-voting policies. Which other communities are disenfranchised by all mail ballots (that aren't by the standard system), and how are mail in ballots disenfranchising in a way that having to be at a specific polling place is not? Also, I'm not against a national holiday, I just recognize that it's much easier for a state to allow (then require) all absentee voting than it is for there to be a national holiday for voting.
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Nov 4, 2015 18:52
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Mr. Nice! posted:Word in Twitter is the UK is investigating the Russian plane that went down in Egypt and that it may have been brought down by an explosive device. It will be at some point. Also, MSNBC this morning saying some anonymous source in the investigation said passengers at the rear of the plane had blast damage from an explosion. Also, ISIS took credit and it was on an anniversary of something they did. Didn't hear what exactly.
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greatn posted:Kill all white people except for me and my friends and family and their friends and families and so on, but everyone else. Lmao being white in 2015 Get it together man
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Nov 4, 2015 18:56
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apparently jeb can fix it just said "building a wall is not the answer. but it's partially the answer" at a campaign event in NH this guy really can't do anything right
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TheQat posted:apparently jeb can fix it just said "building a wall is not the answer. but it's partially the answer" at a campaign event in NH What's wrong with a handsome picket fence along the border, really give the whole nation a cozy feeling.
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Nov 4, 2015 19:00
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Solkanar512 posted:Which other communities are disenfranchised by all mail ballots, and how are mail in ballots disenfranchising in a way that having to be at a specific poll is not? Those communities with poor mailing infrastructure, poor literacy rates, etc. It is easier for a non-profit to organize a GOTV van on election day, than it is to track down and engage many people over a wider time period and in particular when you consider the way some states have implemented rules regulating who can help with mail ballots. Also the homeless are still effected, because as I pointed out earlier, that just because you're in one shelter one month, doesn't mean you'll be able to back in a month to get your ballot. For example, some shelters require you bring special ID or show up at special times to get your mail. Or if you're at a Salvation Army shelter, but then get kicked out for being gay, hope you're able to file a change of address form in time! Also, why can't we do the same thing with a holiday, it's much easier for a state to suggest (then require) election day is a holiday than for congress to do so?
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TheQat posted:apparently jeb can fix it just said "building a wall is not the answer. but it's partially the answer" at a campaign event in NH He got heckled by people over his tax plan (cut them all) too. He's so good at campaigning.
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Nov 4, 2015 19:00
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Gravel Gravy posted:Is Kohls middle class approved? Yes but mostly Amazon prime
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Gravel Gravy posted:Is Kohls middle class approved? Depends if you buy things there full price and whether or not you use Kohl's cash.
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euphronius posted:Yes but mostly Amazon prime DemeaninDemon posted:Depends if you buy things there full price and whether or not you use Kohl's cash. Saved from the executioner's block if only for a few more years.
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Ron Jeremy posted:The Chicago area police officer whose death sparked a manhunt and a worry about a war on police turns out to be a staged suicide. The guy had been embezzling for years. Was this supposedly tied into BLM or something? Because literally every person they've shown in that clip just ~refusing~ to accept the news looks like a dyed-in-the-wool teabagger. "...well. With all of the misinformation *stares at news reporter* around, I mean. I don't believe it. I don't believe that at all..." Noam Chomsky posted:Ohio just threw away it's chance at legalization because of MUH FREE MARKETS! The irony... I don't live in Ohio and I probably won't ever choose to, but I'd much rather be forced to buy weed illegally from a dealer than be forced to buy admittedly better, cheaper weed from Nick Lachey. Zeno-25 posted:Why is it that other states just can't seem to get it right like in Colorado? The sheer amount of innovation and growth that has been unleashed out here is amazing. Is it that the process for putting these legalization initiatives on the ballot in other states leaves them open to fuckery by the rich and connected trying to stake out another business fiefdom? Colorado isn't like those other states. Ohio doesn't have a semipermanent 'XGames demographic' and an economy largely sustained by a ginormous tourism industry.
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If you buy something full price at kohls I think you lose your middle class certification.
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This makes a compelling, and highly depressing case that we're in a feedback loop where increased income inequality leads to further republican rule locally and nationally, which leads to more income inequality, which leads to more Republican rule, etc... This is why it's in the Democratic party's own interest to address income inequality. But even if they do all they can to push for addressing inequality, I'm not sure what, if anything, they can actually do to stop the feedback loop as the income inequality disparity is what leads to making it more likely Republican candidates win. The article does mention mobilizing poorer communities, but even if the will was there, it's questionable whether the party could create the infrastructure necessary to do so, what with weakening union power, disenfranchisement, and weaker social networks among the lower class. http://www.vox.com/polyarchy/2015/11/4/9665842/republican-inequality-future-loop theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nov 4, 2015 19:11
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euphronius posted:If you buy something full price at kohls I think you lose your middle class certification. does any clothing store sell stuff at full price? as far as I know stuff's eternally "on sale" at 25-50%.
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Motto posted:does any clothing store sell stuff at full price? as far as I know stuff's eternally "on sale" at 25-50%. I mean some items they tack on MSRP with a big x through it with their price but yeah it's mostly a show in general. I like how with Men's Wearhouse and Jos A. Banks the way they work their sales is that for the most part no matter what they run almost everything comes out about the same.
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Motto posted:does any clothing store sell stuff at full price? as far as I know stuff's eternally "on sale" at 25-50%. Ross kind of sort of doesn't have sales other than the clearance racks.
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theblackw0lf posted:This makes a compelling, and highly depressing case that we're in a feedback loop where increased income inequality leads to further republican rule locally and nationally, which leads to more income inequality, which leads to more Republican rule, etc... Field candidates who actually want to address income inequality?
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Men's dress shirts and shoes are often not on any sale.
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Nordstrom only has a couple of sales a year and an occasional clearance rack. But they also have an entire chain dedicated to off loading past season's merch. I'll see myself to the guillotine.
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Maarek posted:Field candidates who actually want to address income inequality? The point is that because of the structural benefits Republicans have, in part due to their hold on local and state governments, those candidates are going to have a hard time winning. That's one reason why it's reinforcing.
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Maarek posted:Field candidates who actually want to address income inequality? Wait, how do you mean? Serious question.
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theblackw0lf posted:This makes a compelling, and highly depressing case that we're in a feedback loop where increased income inequality leads to further republican rule locally and nationally, which leads to more income inequality, which leads to more Republican rule, etc... Field candidates that actually address the innequality and whoa aren't just a slightly less bad version of the republican? Populists over neoliberals. Boon posted:Wait, how do you mean? Serious question. All to often the democrats select people who are almost as neoliberal the gopper and whose only real defining difference is their maybe slightly liberal stance on social issues, but then then their in states where people ID the GOP as the party of government and they are not actually offering any different answers then the GOP, while at the same time putting on airs, that doesn't incentivize voters to support them. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nov 4, 2015 19:23
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Crowsbeak posted:Field candidates that actually address the innequality and whoa aren't just a slightly less bad version of the republican? Populists over neoliberals. Doesn't that largely ignore the whole context of our history and our political process? Basically, isn't this a pie in the sky dream?
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Crowsbeak posted:All to often the democrats select people who are almost as neoliberal the gopper and whose only real defining difference is their maybe slightly liberal stance on social issues, but then then their in states where people ID the GOP as the party of government and they are not actually offering any different answers then the GOP, while at the same time putting on airs, that doesn't incentivize voters to support them.
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theblackw0lf posted:This makes a compelling, and highly depressing case that we're in a feedback loop where increased income inequality leads to further republican rule locally and nationally, which leads to more income inequality, which leads to more Republican rule, etc... You can fall into this and declare that our fate is inevitable or you can rage against the dying of the light. I personally find it all very odd because while people will generally be the same, society will not. My calculus in the culture war is not weekly or monthly or quarterly or yearly, its generational. The idea that we're in for another 30 years of Republican rule seems quite absurd to me unless we're convinced that millenials will have no political power or influence until they're in their 60's. A decade ago we hadn't had a black president, let alone considered it a real possibility, LBGT was a lot more behind the eightball and the rich were still unquestionably good. We can't change the hideous beauty and ignorance of humanity but we can in time improve society and quantifiably give the next generation a little more equality, a little more freedom, a little more prosperity. It is up to us to be better than those who came before us.
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Crowsbeak posted:Field candidates that actually address the innequality and whoa aren't just a slightly less bad version of the republican? Populists over neoliberals. I think there's a disconnect with how you evaluate the economic positions of Democratic candidates and how the electorate does. How does a congressional democratic candidate run on "addressing income inequality" in a way that won't have the left decry it as "literally the same as Reagan" because it wasn't full socialism now?
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I think one potential way for the Democrats to make inroads in rural areas is to, as a party, be more religious. Frame their arguments on income inequality in the sense that it is 'Jesus-like' and how allowing widespread poverty goes against His teachings. Basically, the Democrats gave up on the religious vote after Carter lost to Reagan, which I think was a mistake. Carter was the last Democrat to win over rural voters for a reason.
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Jonked posted:As a Pittsburgh resident, I want to make it clear that this is absurdly wrong. Up here near Williamsport we say y'all instead. Also we are equally as unintelligible as Boomhauser but in a different way because of our strong and mighty Dutch Pennsylvanian accents.  Got that Lebanon bologna though. I actually think Pittsburgh is really pretty, during Amtrak stopovers there I'd love walking around
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Trabisnikof posted:Those communities with poor mailing infrastructure, poor literacy rates, etc. It is easier for a non-profit to organize a GOTV van on election day, than it is to track down and engage many people over a wider time period and in particular when you consider the way some states have implemented rules regulating who can help with mail ballots. You keep bringing up shelters (and these are important issues!), but post offices among other places were also listed. It's obviously not a complete solution, but that unless you have a state that somehow decided to have all absentee voting but were shitheads enough to limit handling of sealed ballots, that same GOTV van can pick up ballots instead. The rest of the issues you brought up aren't improved by standard poll schemes. Same with the issue of homelessness, since I've typically has to go to a specific polling place. As for the holiday issue, you used the phrase "national holiday", but even if we're talking at the state level, holidays aren't allowed to be taken by those who need them the most. By mailing out ballots, you avoid this issue all together. The thing is, despite not fixing everything, all absentee voting is a huge improvement over standard polling station voting. Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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