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Man, I've been hearing the stupid poo poo all morning long at work. With some serious glee I've been told by multiple people how they checked the news first thing this morning, saw that Prop 1 failed, and how now they feel that there is hope for this country. It's not even the "rape in bathrooms" deal, it's just that now they're saying "Well now you can't claim to be a woman to get into women's bathrooms one day, then change your mind the next!"
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Ratmtattat posted:Man, I've been hearing the stupid poo poo all morning long at work. With some serious glee I've been told by multiple people how they checked the news first thing this morning, saw that Prop 1 failed, and how now they feel that there is hope for this country. It's not even the "rape in bathrooms" deal, it's just that now they're saying "Well now you can't claim to be a woman to get into women's bathrooms one day, then change your mind the next!" I know that someday we're going to look back on all this with the same shame and disdain that we do poo poo like segregated water fountains, I just wish that day was today 
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Nov 4, 2015 18:59
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Ratmtattat posted:Man, I've been hearing the stupid poo poo all morning long at work. With some serious glee I've been told by multiple people how they checked the news first thing this morning, saw that Prop 1 failed, and how now they feel that there is hope for this country. It's not even the "rape in bathrooms" deal, it's just that now they're saying "Well now you can't claim to be a woman to get into women's bathrooms one day, then change your mind the next!" But I CAN. I can just walk into a women's bathroom whenever I want! There's no loving Toilet Cop stationed out front saying 'woah, lemmie see if you got a dick or not' that the HERO poo poo would have had executed in the street! If these people really live in this world where they fear a dude walking into a bathroom then they already should be terrified of public bathrooms regardless!
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Nov 4, 2015 19:21
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Nov 4, 2015 19:22
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Sad about what happened in Houston yesterday. I wonder how bad voter turnout was in the state.
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Nov 4, 2015 20:45
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Spacebump posted:Sad about what happened in Houston yesterday. I wonder how bad voter turnout was in the state. 11%
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Nov 4, 2015 20:55
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Nov 4, 2015 20:56
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illcendiary posted:Come to San Antonio, I need friends here anyway I'll be your friend!  For reals tho, we have a quiet thread, the more people the better.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:21
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zoux posted:They can just say there girls and you have to show them your vagina because of Obama. Holy poo poo that crazy bitch gets around. This is like the 5th video I've seen of her doing some crazy poo poo. She was the Monster drink is the devil lady.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:23
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zoux posted:11% Do you have a source for this? This is way higher than the last two elections on constitutional measures, which averaged 6% turnout.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:24
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Roumba posted:
If true it's actually higher than the past few elections for measures, which is way sadder
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Nov 4, 2015 21:24
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It's cool because the pro-HERO people mismanaged their campaign worse than Wendy Davis. The first I even heard of anything outside of LGBT protections was after the vote when one of the supporters lamented that because it failed, he (an African-American) could do l still be denied entry into the bars on Washington. I knew it covered a lot more than that, but everything was focused on that one part that got the highly religious conservatives to fight it as opposed to also allowing local protections against discrimination to other groups.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:27
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Oil! posted:It's cool because the pro-HERO people mismanaged their campaign worse than Wendy Davis. The first I even heard of anything outside of LGBT protections was after the vote when one of the supporters lamented that because it failed, he (an African-American) could do l still be denied entry into the bars on Washington. I knew it covered a lot more than that, but everything was focused on that one part that got the highly religious conservatives to fight it as opposed to also allowing local protections against discrimination to other groups. I don't know what the gently caress you're talking about dude there were tons of ads and poo poo about 'no, idiots, HERO is about more than lgbt things, it protects literally everyone, like veterans, you like veterans don't you?'
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Nov 4, 2015 21:30
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Yeah there were a few different commercials that were pro-HERO (mainly vet oriented) but it doesn't matter what kind of positivity you're bringing to the table when you're running against a black and white ad that suggests sex offenders are going to diddle some kids in a public restroom and the ordinance gives them the legal right to do so.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:34
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Twerk from Home posted:Do you have a source for this? This is way higher than the last two elections on constitutional measures, which averaged 6% turnout. https://enrpages.sos.state.tx.us/public/nov03_190_state.htm jaegerx posted:Holy poo poo that crazy bitch gets around. This is like the 5th video I've seen of her doing some crazy poo poo. She was the Monster drink is the devil lady. Yeah she was also the lady that hijacked the mic at that Muslims at the Capitol day thing earlier this year.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:35
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Parachute posted:Yeah there were a few different commercials that were pro-HERO (mainly vet oriented) but it doesn't matter what kind of positivity you're bringing to the table when you're running against a black and white ad that suggests sex offenders are going to diddle some kids in a public restroom and the ordinance gives them the legal right to do so. Yea to be clear for non-Houston guys, the one of the awesome ads we were up against was a little girl going into the bathroom in scary black and white, a dramatic voice saying MEN WILL BE ALLOWED INTO THE BATHROOM and then it ends with a big dude standing in front of a scared little girl. It was straight up 'they're gonna fuckin rape your kids'
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Nov 4, 2015 21:48
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I am sort of surprised at the apparent goon support for "top state officials do not have to reside in the town where the organizations they command are". That was the one state prop I thought might actually go down in flames that I wanted to.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:53
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I am sort of surprised at the apparent goon support for "top state officials do not have to reside in the town where the organizations they command are". That was the one state prop I thought might actually go down in flames that I wanted to. It doesn't really do anything good or bad unless you happen to be one of the four (?) statewide officials that have to reside in Austin.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Yea to be clear for non-Houston guys, the one of the awesome ads we were up against was a little girl going into the bathroom in scary black and white, a dramatic voice saying MEN WILL BE ALLOWED INTO THE BATHROOM and then it ends with a big dude standing in front of a scared little girl. It was straight up 'they're gonna fuckin rape your kids' If I won the lottery I would just run endless smear campaigns against assholes like these and burn them to the ground with bullshit because it doesn't matter if what you're suggesting is even remotely true.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:57
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I am sort of surprised at the apparent goon support for "top state officials do not have to reside in the town where the organizations they command are". That was the one state prop I thought might actually go down in flames that I wanted to. It's completely meaningless. I voted for it because making people live in the capital in an age of airplanes and skype and poo poo is really dumb but its passing or failing will have literally no affect on Texas.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:58
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zoux posted:It doesn't really do anything good or bad unless you happen to be one of the four (?) statewide officials that have to reside in Austin. Certainly less than ten, yeah. It matters less than the hunting amendment, so that's hilarious, but at the same time it really does gum up the works sometimes when top officials are unavailable. None of the props this year were terribly important in and of themselves, although 1 and 7 could have significant revenue related side effects.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:02
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I'm fine with Sid Miller loving off to uncharted corners of west Texas never to be seen nor heard of ever again.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:03
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I'd note that I don't think Houston is exceptionally bigoted (at least compared to Dallas-Fort Worth), the difference is that the city limits of Houston consume a lot of the suburbs which are far more conservative. Once you get outside Dallas city limits and into the sprawl where 2/3rds of the population lives, anti-discrimination protections evaporate. Toronto is another city like Houston, very different obviously, but a similar dynamic where they annexed a bunch of suburbs and found themselves with Rob Ford as mayor.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:17
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Tatum Girlparts posted:It's completely meaningless. I voted for it because making people live in the capital in an age of airplanes and skype and poo poo is really dumb but its passing or failing will have literally no affect on Texas. Except it means Ken Paxton can decide that he lives in Rockdale now and if you want to try and prosecute him for all his corrupt poo poo you have to get the Milam County DA to be able to quit his part-time job at the Save-and-Stop to try and put a case together.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:24
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I'm actually going to stop correcting people on this and just let them think that it's true.
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Nov 4, 2015 22:24
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zoux posted:I'm actually going to stop correcting people on this and just let them think that it's true. Yeah no one seems to read your posts on that, including me.
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zoux posted:I'm actually going to stop correcting people on this and just let them think that it's true. You're confusing a few things here. When the legislator moved the Public Integrity Unit from the Travis County DA to the DPS, they effectively took away its prosecutorial authority (the Travis County DA can actually prosecute cases, while DPS can only investigate them and provide the info to the DA in the official's home district). Now, for every member of the legislator that means that they are no longer prosecuted by Travis County, but by their home district's DA. However, up until this bill was passed, all statewide elected officials would have still be prosecuted by the Travis County DA (who has the most experience with winning these types of cases), since they had to live in Austin. Now they can live anywhere they damned well please, and have even more power than members of the legislator in venue-shopping for potential prosecution. Here are the 26 statewide officials (since the governor still has to live in Austin) who are now completely free to venue-shop. This isn't some small list, these are some of the most powerful people in the state. If a statewide official decides to live in Milam, Hays, or Blanco County they are basically giving themselves a get-out-of-jail free card, because there's no way any of those counties have a DA that could prosecute an effective case on them, even with the PIU and DPS doing all the investigation for them.
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e_angst posted:You're confusing a few things here. When the legislator moved the Public Integrity Unit from the Travis County DA to the DPS, they effectively took away its prosecutorial authority (the Travis County DA can actually prosecute cases, while DPS can only investigate them and provide the info to the DA in the official's home district). Now, for every member of the legislator that means that they are no longer prosecuted by Travis County, but by their home district's DA. Prosecutions will occur in the county of residence claimed when they are elected. Sec. 411.0257. RESIDENCE. For the purposes of this subchapter, a person resides in the county where that person: (1) claims a residence homestead under Chapter 41, Property Code, if that person is a member of the legislature; (2) claimed to be a resident before being subject to residency requirements under Article IV, Texas Constitution, if that person is a member of the executive branch of this state; (3) claims a residence homestead under Chapter 41, Property Code, if that person is a justice on the supreme court or judge on the court of criminal appeals; or (4) otherwise claims residence if no other provision of this section applies.
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Nov 4, 2015 23:09
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Voting no to Hero has already proved ineffective. Sad story here. http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Man-at-large-who-lured-12-year-old-into-CVS-6610122.php
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Nov 4, 2015 23:10
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zoux posted:Prosecutions will occur in the county of residence claimed when they are elected. So no venue shopping, but the proposition still creates the problem of relying on the local DA to prosecute?
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Nov 4, 2015 23:18
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PostNouveau posted:So no venue shopping, but the proposition still creates the problem of relying on the local DA to prosecute? Oh that's absolutely a problem. And there are concerns about venue shopping, Chapter 41 isn't real strict on requirements for residency claims. But that's an issue with the legislation and not the measure on yesterday's ballot.
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Nov 4, 2015 23:21
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zoux posted:Prosecutions will occur in the county of residence claimed when they are elected. Exactly, and every statewide official can now move to whatever county they want before their next election. So this amendment passing has a four-year (or less) clock on every corruption investigation, which starts at the beginning of their first term.
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Nov 4, 2015 23:24
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e_angst posted:Exactly, and every statewide official can now move to whatever county they want before their next election. So this amendment passing has a four-year (or less) clock on every corruption investigation, which starts at the beginning of their first term. Since this will just result in arguing over the parsing of legislative language, I'll just say I disagree.
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I dunno it sounds pretty poo poo without parsing the wording. Just toss out the venue shopping part, you're still assuming the local DA in what could be a rural part of the state has the will and means to mount a case against a powerful state figure, who they may well run the same circles as. Seems like a license to be as corrupt as you want as long as you can count on some (potentially) small-time DA to play ball.
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PostNouveau posted:I dunno it sounds pretty poo poo without parsing the wording. Just toss out the venue shopping part, you're still assuming the local DA in what could be a rural part of the state has the will and means to mount a case against a powerful state figure, who they may well run the same circles as. Seems like a license to be as corrupt as you want as long as you can count on some (potentially) small-time DA to play ball. Yeah and these are all problems with HB 1690, the legislation that stripped the Travis Co DA of the PIU. It has nothing to do with the residency requirement measure, they were separate unrelated bills. Also the only officials affected by the requirement are AG, Comptroller and Land Commish. The Supreme Court, Governor and Lt. Gov all still have to live here. Here's the change: The Comptroller of Public Accounts, the Commissioner of the General Land Office, the Attorney General, and any statutory State officer who is elected by the electorate of Texas at large, unless a term of office is otherwise specifically provided in this Constitution, shall each hold office for the term of four years. Each shall receive an annual salary in an amount to be fixed by the Legislature, zoux fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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zoux posted:Yeah and these are all problems with HB 1690, the legislation that stripped the Travis Co DA of the PIU. It has nothing to do with the residency requirement measure, they were separate unrelated bills. Ah I see, alrighty then, probably no harm in letting them move.
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Nov 4, 2015 23:41
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zoux posted:I'm fine with Sid Miller loving off to uncharted corners of west Texas never to be seen nor heard of ever again. Frankly, this argument might have sold me on the vote.
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:'-( I am devastated that this failed.
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zoux posted:Yeah and these are all problems with HB 1690, the legislation that stripped the Travis Co DA of the PIU. It has nothing to do with the residency requirement measure, they were separate unrelated bills. This is basically what made me vote the way I did. The issues with this are because of an unrelated terrible legislation, and if this rightly bothers you should be fighting that rather than the piddly crap 'no you have to live in Austin' stuff.
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