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On the topic of surprisingly awesome entrance themes wasted on goobers, I give you Maven: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgqZROjkxGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VjU4PaP7g
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Nov 5, 2015 02:48
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Maven was in the WWE for 4 years!?
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Nov 5, 2015 02:58
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Archives are down so I can't just go look, but was the reaction to this entire segment as amazing as I imagine it to be? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDPtQpFTMb4 Goddamn watching through the Shield's story is fun.
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Nov 5, 2015 08:34
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Who was the identity of the guy in Japanese style garb who ran in a hardcore match (Bart Gunn/Holly) on Raw back in 1998? I think it was a repackaged Dr. Death but I seem to remember it being a one shot thing never to be mentioned again.
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Nov 5, 2015 09:14
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abraham linksys posted:Archives are down so I can't just go look, but was the reaction to this entire segment as amazing as I imagine it to be? I absolutely love that Lesnar nonverbally says "Stay in the corner Paul, I gotta do this for your own good."
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Nov 5, 2015 10:35
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:It's blatantly based on it. I guess its has like those 3 notes the same but i just dont hear it.
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Nov 5, 2015 13:45
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I was a wrestling fan off and on for the 90's until about 2001 or so. But I didn't pay attention to any internet scuttlebutt or anything, until 2007. I was watching the BBC Documentary about the Kliq, and it was kind of weird. Why Is HHH a big deal, other than the obvious, is married to Steph Mcmahon? When I was younger, I didn't think he was that big of a deal and I hated him on my TV, I didn't want to watch him because he was a boring jerk. When I was younger, I thought Degeneration X was just a knock off of NWO, I pretty much dismissed them as a juvenile petty cash in. But the Kliq documentary seems to whitewash it as the NWO was a neat experiment by two dudes who wanted to be in the big leagues, but DEGENERATION-X changed the face of Wrestling forever! Is Shawn Michaels ever not a shithead? Is this all because any wrestling tapes come out of WWE's library these days?
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Nov 5, 2015 17:49
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Team_q posted:Why Is HHH a big deal, other than the obvious, is married to Steph Mcmahon? When I was younger, I didn't think he was that big of a deal and I hated him on my TV, I didn't want to watch him because he was a boring jerk. He's a great wrestler and talker, and a better politician. He had/has the talent to be a top dog, but he definitely found a way to guarantee it, too. Team_q posted:When I was younger, I thought Degeneration X was just a knock off of NWO, I pretty much dismissed them as a juvenile petty cash in. But the Kliq documentary seems to whitewash it as the NWO was a neat experiment by two dudes who wanted to be in the big leagues, but DEGENERATION-X changed the face of Wrestling forever! DX meant comparably very little in comparison to the NWO, but WWE will push the mythology. Team_q posted:Is Shawn Michaels ever not a shithead? He found religion and by all accounts mellowed out dramatically. He didn't own up to what a shithead he was, but he mostly stopped being a shithead by the time he came back in 2002. Team_q posted:Is this all because any wrestling tapes come out of WWE's library these days? Essentially, yeah.
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Nov 5, 2015 18:03
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i was very confused when i first got the network and was watching a bunch of the shows about the Monday Night Wars and DX was talked about as some sort of either turning point or behemoth to go alongside SCSA/Rock/et al. In my memory they were funny childish assholes (which i loved, being 13), but it wasn't like their feud with the Nation made me give up on watching WCW (who was fine accomplishing that by themselves). the heavy handedness at which the wwe frames everything they did during the late 90s is hilarious
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Nov 5, 2015 18:24
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Tweak posted:i was very confused when i first got the network and was watching a bunch of the shows about the Monday Night Wars and DX was talked about as some sort of either turning point or behemoth to go alongside SCSA/Rock/et al. In my memory they were funny childish assholes (which i loved, being 13), but it wasn't like their feud with the Nation made me give up on watching WCW (who was fine accomplishing that by themselves). the heavy handedness at which the wwe frames everything they did during the late 90s is hilarious Literally every episode of Monday Night War declares the topic of that episode to be the turning point.
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Nov 5, 2015 18:29
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shawn michaels is definitely still a huge dick but who cares he's shawn michaels
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My favorite Shawn Michaels story is the one from Bryan's book where he's "retired" due to his bad back, training people at his school. He's trying to teach bumping off a backdrop and they just aren't getting it. He decides to demonstrate and takes the bump himself. Immediately his mom yells from the next room MICHAEL SHAWN HICKENBOTTOM WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T DO THAT and he's just like 
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:He found religion and by all accounts mellowed out dramatically. He didn't own up to what a shithead he was, but he mostly stopped being a shithead by the time he came back in 2002. I've hated Shawn Michaels since he turned on Marty. But the Kliq Documentary, Hall Nash and Xpac's sentiment was (paraphrasing) "We were dicks and we looked out for each other" and Shawn was "Everyone else could do what we do, but they are all pussies".
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Nov 5, 2015 19:30
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Tweak posted:i was very confused when i first got the network and was watching a bunch of the shows about the Monday Night Wars and DX was talked about as some sort of either turning point or behemoth to go alongside SCSA/Rock/et al. In my memory they were funny childish assholes (which i loved, being 13), but it wasn't like their feud with the Nation made me give up on watching WCW (who was fine accomplishing that by themselves). the heavy handedness at which the wwe frames everything they did during the late 90s is hilarious I thought DX were the coolest thing in the world from 99-2000 but I'd only started watching wwe around that time and had never watched wcw. I also loved kid rock and Eminem during that time period so I'm sure that was related. But even when I came back to watching and was still a huge mark after wm20 I was able to tell that nwos place in wrestling history was way more significant than DXs, which was probably 4th or 5th place at best in terms of wrestlers who contributed to wwe's popularity during the attitude era
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Nov 5, 2015 20:30
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History is written by the winners, and since WWE won and HHH is married into the McMahon family, DX is now this big deal that eclipsed the nWo and WCW was destroyed when DX drove the DX TANK over Ted Turner's corpse (justified as Turner was literally stealing food from the McMahon family's collective mouths) See also: Whenever WWE got a WCW or ECW guy like Jericho or the Dudleys, it was an "acquisition", but when WCW got a WWE or ECW guy like Hall and Nash or Mike Awesome it was theft. Mercury Crusader fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Nov 5, 2015 20:38
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Mercury Crusader posted:History is written by the winners, and since WWE won and HHH is married into the McMahon family, DX is now this big deal that eclipsed the nWo and WCW was destroyed when DX drove the DX TANK over Ted Turner's corpse (justified as Turner was literally stealing food from the McMahon family's collective mouths) I think Paul Heyman will tell you WWF stole Taz and the Dudley Boys
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Nov 5, 2015 20:57
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Team_q posted:I was watching the BBC Documentary about the Kliq, and it was kind of weird. What is this?
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MisterGBH posted:Who was the identity of the guy in Japanese style garb who ran in a hardcore match (Bart Gunn/Holly) on Raw back in 1998? I think it was a repackaged Dr. Death but I seem to remember it being a one shot thing never to be mentioned again. I found this - http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/272028 The youtube link is deadk, but they are saying it is Williams.
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Nov 5, 2015 21:28
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Smoking Crow posted:I think Paul Heyman will tell you WWF stole Taz and the Dudley Boys In the Heyman doc (which is a great watch) he more or less said WWF poached his entire roster on a consistent basis and eventually there's nothing he could do about it. I think he still harbors some resentment even though they've kept him with a steady job for years. They ruined his baby.
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Mercury Crusader posted:History is written by the winners, and since WWE won and HHH is married into the McMahon family, DX is now this big deal that eclipsed the nWo and WCW was destroyed when DX drove the DX TANK over Ted Turner's corpse (justified as Turner was literally stealing food from the McMahon family's collective mouths) WCW tried to put the WWF out of business!!!! That isn't what professional wrestling is all about, can't we all just get along? I'm actually reading The Death of WCW again, and I forgot that early on Vince wrote a series of letters making fun of Ted Turner and WCW and telling Ted to just shut it all down, he's embarrassing himself. But Ted was a big meanie, competing with WWF like that!
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Rusty Shackelford posted:I found this - http://officialfan.proboards.com/thread/272028 https://youtu.be/ixp0gBG8D80?t=115
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Nov 5, 2015 23:03
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So what are some instances where WWE had to rethink their main event plans in a hurry due to an injury or something and pulled it off well, possibly even better than what the original plan would've been? Really curious to see what they come up with now that Seth is dead.
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sticklefifer posted:In the Heyman doc (which is a great watch) he more or less said WWF poached his entire roster on a consistent basis and eventually there's nothing he could do about it. I think he still harbors some resentment even though they've kept him with a steady job for years. They ruined his baby. His baby was losing money constantly and he literally wasn't paying wrestlers for a lot of it, it's such a goofy grudge to hold cause he really has no one to blame but himself for wrestlers leaving
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:So what are some instances where WWE had to rethink their main event plans in a hurry due to an injury or something and pulled it off well, possibly even better than what the original plan would've been? Really curious to see what they come up with now that Seth is dead. Austin getting his neck broken
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:So what are some instances where WWE had to rethink their main event plans in a hurry due to an injury or something and pulled it off well, possibly even better than what the original plan would've been? Really curious to see what they come up with now that Seth is dead. Cena being murdered by Brock
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CAT rear end now!!! posted:So what are some instances where WWE had to rethink their main event plans in a hurry due to an injury or something and pulled it off well, possibly even better than what the original plan would've been? Really curious to see what they come up with now that Seth is dead. Not an injury, but the WM30 main event comes to mind. edit: I guess Bryan going over Cena at SummerSlam '13 counts too. Metroid Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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Team_q posted:Why Is HHH a big deal, other than the obvious, is married to Steph Mcmahon? When I was younger, I didn't think he was that big of a deal and I hated him on my TV, I didn't want to watch him because he was a boring jerk. He was the Plan C wrestler whom WWE didn't really have much of a choice to do something with after Austin went out with a neck injury and Rock went off to Hollywood. Horrible promo, decent worker but he wasn't on the level of guys like Jericho/Angle/Benoit/Austin/etc. IMO, because I've never really seen him carry a match. The reason why he is a 'big deal' is because of who he is married to. That allows him to protect the gently caress out of himself and step out and poo poo on other people, making him look good in the process (see also: the horrible CM Punk/Kevin Nash/Triple H debacle from a few years ago.) The other big reason why he is a big deal is because he had 1 good year, where he benefited greatly from a number of people putting him over hardcore (notably Foley.) He's also the only Attitude Era star that is still a part of the company on a consistent basis. Most everyone else is retired or has gone on to other careers or are part timers. And yeah, he got a Jesus pop when he returned from injury, but that was in a day and age when crowds were going apeshit over the equivalents of guys like Adam Rose or Three Man Band. Or, as Cornette likes to say, he's an 8 pushed as a 10 so he comes off looking like a 7.
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Perdido posted:He was the Plan C wrestler whom WWE didn't really have much of a choice to do something with after Austin went out with a neck injury and Rock went off to Hollywood. Horrible promo, decent worker but he wasn't on the level of guys like Jericho/Angle/Benoit/Austin/etc. IMO, because I've never really seen him carry a match. I don't think literally anybody but hardcore HHH fans (if they even still exist) would look at the CM Punk/Kevin Nash thing and think he came out looking "good" after it. The crowd reacted pretty much the same way we did to it. It's so transparent any time HHH does a "I'm the greatest" type of angle/match that even casual fans can tell what's going on
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The RAW a while back where Sting came out and started fellating HHH was the biggest 
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Good point, are there hardcore HHH marks out there?
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Nov 6, 2015 01:12
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Some people call him the rear end kicker
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Triple H isn't wrestling. He's actually a sort of epic poem. Here's some genderswapped wrestlers.
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HHH stinks.
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Aesop Poprock posted:His baby was losing money constantly and he literally wasn't paying wrestlers for a lot of it, it's such a goofy grudge to hold cause he really has no one to blame but himself for wrestlers leaving I do think it's a tossup because one could argue that if both WCW and WWF weren't poaching all his talent for several years ECW might have gained more momentum on star recognition and made a lot more money. WCW even got Sandman and Sabu. RVD and very few others like Corino and Candido were the only guys who stuck it out for the long haul AND could wrestle well enough to build a company around, but everyone else ditched out in favor of Turner/McMahon money. Not that I blame them, but there's no way to really ever know how big ECW would've been had they been able to keep some of their bigger stars.
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magnum_valentino posted:What is this? It's what the Youtube name was, but really, it was done by WWE, which I guess makes sense.
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Perdido posted:He was the Plan C wrestler whom WWE didn't really have much of a choice to do something with after Austin went out with a neck injury and Rock went off to Hollywood. Horrible promo, decent worker but he wasn't on the level of guys like Jericho/Angle/Benoit/Austin/etc. IMO, because I've never really seen him carry a match. You have no clue what you are talking about. WWE saw HHH as a huge star early on. He was never a "Plan C." In the Rock/HHH ladder match WWE saw HIM as the guy who was the breakout star that night not Rock as everyone else saw. He was pretty much the best worker in the world in 2000 and drew big on many occasions without the help of Rock and Austin. He didn't just get a Jesus pop when he returned, he drew a Jesus buyrate.
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HHH is like John Cena. He's a very good wrestler but his ever present push and long tenure make people underrate him well that and the whole booking himself in hilarious fashion part
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