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An extremely fit and healthy health minister theoretically would have less interactions with the healthcare system, while an obese out of shape health minister is more like to see the inside of a hospital therefore making the fat health minister the expert. Politics.
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 Joint health ministers. Also health minister should be picked based on health merit, so we need to find who is the most healthy and fit person in Canada.
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Nov 5, 2015 20:34
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We should appoint the Canadian who's commited the most crimes as the Justice Minister.
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Nov 5, 2015 20:35
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Baronjutter posted:
A health minister should set a good example, though. Being overweight is not a good example. Frequently drinking is not a good example. Smoking is not a good example. I'm ruled out as much as she ought to be, no question, but I wasn't selected for the job. We don't need a fitness instructor, but someone who does regular exercise and doesn't have unhealthy habits would be nice.
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Yes and the minister for Fisheries should be an actual fisherman. Or a fish. e: or Aquaman Tan Dumplord fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Nov 5, 2015 20:41
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Nov 5, 2015 20:43
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Melian Dialogue posted:Well if you and every other Republican-oriented Canada are out in BC, you may be in luck! Gross. That's not a reason to keep the monarchy though Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Nov 5, 2015 20:45
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sliderule posted:Yes and the minister for Fisheries should be an actual fisherman. Or a fish. Don't be absurd. A more accurate comparison would be "the minister for fisheries shouldn't be from the middle of Saskatchewan" or something.
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PT6A posted:Don't be absurd. A more accurate comparison would be "the minister for fisheries shouldn't be from the middle of Saskatchewan" or something. Hmmm yes. Also a good qualification is how does he look in a tilley cap and how many lures can he fit on his tilley cap?
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Nov 5, 2015 20:46
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:That's because regressive poo poo heads assume the most qualified candidates are defacto Male (also usually white) so the idea that women and minorities could be eminently qualified for a position is not something they can reconcile. I had family members complaining that Carla Qualtrough is not qualified to be Minister of Sport and Persons with a Disability and was appointed because she was a woman. She has three bronze medals in the paralympics, she's legally blind, she was president of the Canadian Paralympic Committee, vice president of the Americas Paralympic Committee, a member of the International Paralympics Legal & Ethics Committee for over a decade, vice chair of the B.C. Workers’ Compensation Appeal Tribunal, chair of the B.C. Ministers’ Council on Employment and Accessibility for Persons with a Disability as well as tons of other minor positions related to the field. She's also a human rights lawyer who served as counsel to the Canadian Human Rights Commission. It is literally impossible to find anyone in Parliament more suitable for her file. People are idiotic.
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Nov 5, 2015 20:47
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Long form census is coming back next year http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/11/05/liberals-restore-mandatory-long-form-census.html
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Do it ironically posted:god forbid a health minister know anything about nutrition, or medicine, or had worked in a heatlh related finance capacity What exactly are you afraid is going to happen that a thinner health minister would have avoided? Is she going to replace all the food in Alberta's school cafeteria's with chocolate or something? Pass a law closing every gym? Spend her entire office budget on Mars bars?
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Nov 5, 2015 20:49
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I think possibly the dumbest complaint I've heard about the new Cabinet is "you say this cabinet looks like Canada? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE? AND LATINOS?!"
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Also what if she was thin because she suffered from anorexia or bulimia? Maybe we should set up screening to prevent these faux-thinnies from obtaining these positions through deception.
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Nov 5, 2015 20:52
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Baronjutter posted:
sounds like a new reality show pitch!
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Helsing posted:What exactly are you afraid is going to happen that a thinner health minister would have avoided? Is she going to replace all the food in Alberta's school cafeteria's with chocolate or something? Pass a law closing every gym? Spend her entire office budget on Mars bars? No, I just find it hypocritical and unpleasant that she's making moves to restrict and tax my bad habits while indulging in her own.
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Nov 5, 2015 20:53
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sliderule posted:Also what if she was thin because she suffered from anorexia or bulimia? Maybe we should set up screening to prevent these faux-thinnies from obtaining these positions through deception. I'd probably have more respect for them as long as they actually had formal education in the field in which they were supposed to be ministering
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PT6A posted:No, I just find it hypocritical and unpleasant that she's making moves to restrict and tax my bad habits while indulging in her own. such as?
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We already know you're a clueless rube. You don't need to come back and remind us every couple weeks.
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JawKnee posted:such as? Being overweight is unhealthy. You don't get that way by magic. You're either eating too much (a bad habit) or not exercising enough (also a bad habit).
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Nov 5, 2015 20:55
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PT6A posted:Being overweight is unhealthy. You don't get that way by magic. You're either eating too much (a bad habit) or not exercising enough (also a bad habit). No, not magic. http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/woman-becomes-obese-after-fecal-transplant-overweight-donor
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Kafka Esq. posted:I think possibly the dumbest complaint I've heard about the new Cabinet is "you say this cabinet looks like Canada? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE? AND LATINOS?!" I saw a facebook post accusing JT of racism because he didn't appoint any ethnic Chinese ministers. (Only two or maybe three were elected).
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PT6A posted:Being overweight is unhealthy. You don't get that way by magic. You're either eating too much (a bad habit) or not exercising enough (also a bad habit). Stop smoking. Live that vape life.
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Nov 5, 2015 20:58
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PT6A posted:Being overweight is unhealthy. You don't get that way by magic. You're either eating too much (a bad habit) or not exercising enough (also a bad habit). I agree that gluttony and sloth are to be avoided, however if you think those are the only causes of weight gain (or a lack of weight loss) and obesity you are wrong.
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Nov 5, 2015 20:58
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PT6A posted:No, I just find it hypocritical and unpleasant that she's making moves to restrict and tax my bad habits while indulging in her own. Leaving aside the fact that fatness is usually more complicated than just "bad habits", she is almost certainly just a pawn for her party and is executing whatever initiatives she's told to execute to the best of her ability. Would you really, in any way, feel better if the person government ministers implementing sin taxes on you were a health nuts?
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JawKnee posted:I agree that gluttony and sloth are to be avoided, however if you think those are the only causes of weight gain (or a lack of weight loss) and obesity you are wrong. noooooooo thread turn left
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Helsing posted:Would you really, in any way, feel better if the person government ministers implementing sin taxes on you were a health nuts? Slightly, yes. EDIT: I should say, I would feel less upset, not "better" as such. I would also feel slightly better, ironically, if the person behind the tax increase were a drinker and smoker, because at least then they'd be sharing the pain. It's specifically the fact that there are no sin taxes on unhealthy food or non-alcoholic beverages that really burns my rear end. PT6A fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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flakeloaf posted:noooooooo thread turn left This thread is making my thyroid act up again!!!!
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Kafka Esq. posted:I think possibly the dumbest complaint I've heard about the new Cabinet is "you say this cabinet looks like Canada? WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE? AND LATINOS?!" This has cropped up among black friends. To which I ask them exactly how many black people were elected in the Liberal party? A) They had no idea and B) They were upset it was only two [please correct me if I am mistaken].  How can I manufacture a way for these events to upset me personally?
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I think part of the problem with ministerial appointments (this has been touched on but not made explicit) is that when people say that the "most qualified" or "best" person should be put in the role, they aren't actually thinking hard about what that means for such a position. We need to ask first: What is it that a Minister does? What things are required of someone to perform that role best? One of the immediate problems here is that the role of a minister is highly conditional to the way a prime minister operates. As far as I understand it, a Minister's role is to oversee, create and implement policy within their given domain. Experience in management or policy in any sort of role will help regardless of the ministry at hand, and experience in the relevant field is also important. However, there are other things to consider. The more experience someone has performing such a role, the less likely you are to be flexible to changes in it. As has been mentioned before, someones general background provides a significant impact on their perspective on the particular ministry, which is also important if you're wanting to steer a ministry in a particular direction. You have to balance options, which is why Dion, a person that while clearly ideal for an environment role also has an large amount of experience in government affairs generally, was instead put into foreign policy (while also being appointed as chair of the environment and climate change committee). A minister (at least outside of the Harper era) typically is also speaking to the public a great deal about policy changes, so being able to communicate effectively there, as well is in the ministry you're responsible for is important. These people hand-wringing about "affirmative action" are not considering that having a representative cabinet is crucial to getting a balanced perspective on things. These same people would likely take no issue doing this with regard to appointments based on geographic location, so why is it suddenly an issue when it comes to gender or race? I think if you're gonna make such a criticism, you'd best have your own list of appointments and some good arguments as to why yours is better.
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We should appoint Wayne Gretzky minister of health, ethics and gaming.
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Cultural Imperial posted:We should appoint Wayne Gretzky minister of health, ethics and gaming. Gretzky for Ambassador to the USA. edit: or he could be health minister because he knew McDavid was in trouble "as soon as he went into the boards." That's a clinical eye, there.
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He'd also be a good foreign affairs minister because he knows what it's like to be in places that aren't Canada. Is there a ministry of guys who can gently caress off and go be irrelevant somewhere else? He could totally be that too.
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flakeloaf posted:Is there a ministry of guys who can gently caress off and go be irrelevant somewhere else? He could totally be that too. No that's Celine Dion's post.
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Melian Dialogue posted:Well if you and every other Republican-oriented Canada are out in BC, you may be in luck! That makes me more of a Monarchist then ever Also how has this Trudeau interview not made the thread http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/behind-the-scenes-with-justin-trudeau-on-his-1st-day-as-pm-1.3304860
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sbaldrick posted:That makes me more of a Monarchist then ever Is anyone else getting Trudeau overload? Everything he says or does seems to have an article or video. Can we not have a middle ground between no information (Harper) and being verbose (Trudeau)
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jm20 posted:Is anyone else getting Trudeau overload? Everything he says or does seems to have an article or video. Can we not have a middle ground between no information (Harper) and being verbose (Trudeau) It's just the honeymoon period, it'll wear off soon enough.
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jm20 posted:Is anyone else getting Trudeau overload? I'd rather keep talking about Sarah Hoffman. She's super cute. 
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