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Calibrate your torque wrenches every year, you can send them out and it shouldn't cost more than $50 or so to get them adjusted.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 03:02 |
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But I keep buying Tekton torque wrenches for $15
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 03:06 |
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rscott posted:Calibrate your torque wrenches every year, you can send them out and it shouldn't cost more than $50 or so to get them adjusted. Send out to a non-branded service? Can you name one? There seem to be so many generic sites.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 05:12 |
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If I really wanted to know if my torque wrench was right I'd buy one of these so I could calibrate in house: http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-ARM60...e+wrench+tester Also, the screw pins that hold the rotor on are to make it easier to line up the wheel for the bolts. Volvos have those by default but most custom wheels can't accommodate them so they get taken out immediately. Lining up the bolt holes is a pain in the rear end without them.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 05:59 |
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LloydDobler posted:Also, the screw pins that hold the rotor on are to make it easier to line up the wheel for the bolts. Volvos have those by default but most custom wheels can't accommodate them so they get taken out immediately. Lining up the bolt holes is a pain in the rear end without them. Ferrari wisely put a lip on the hub, so things are easy enough once you manage to get the rim centered enough to get onto the lip. From there, lining up the bolt holes is academic. quote:If I really wanted to know if my torque wrench was right I'd buy one of these so I could calibrate in house: http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-ARM60...e+wrench+tester If the calibration is off, how do you adjust a torque wrench? Is there a service port that hides an adjustment screw?
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 16:17 |
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Calibrating them is fiddly work, there are springs you have to adjust to get them in spec. We send our stuff to a local gauge and inspection company, not sure who would work for you in your area.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 16:23 |
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kimbo305 posted:It's odd, but it's real. You can also get really fancy sockets for the chrome heads: Don't they make the same design but without the fancy metal and it's much cheaper? I swear I've seen sockets that have the corner voids to prevent rounding off bolts as well. As for torque wrench chat, the calibration shouldn't be wildly out of spec after a year, I'd hope, barring physical damage from being thrown on a concrete floor or sorting it in your nice exotic salt water fish tank. Unless you're doing engine work or very critical suspension/drivetrain work, an uncalibrated torque wrench should be ok I'd think. Don't know how much that approach translates to exotic ownership though
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 16:40 |
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kimbo305 posted:Ferrari wisely put a lip on the hub, so things are easy enough once you manage to get the rim centered enough to get onto the lip. From there, lining up the bolt holes is academic. For the 996, Porsche provided a stud you could thread into one hole for alignment, then take out once you had the other bolts in. I liked that setup.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 18:32 |
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Bajaha posted:Unless you're doing engine work or very critical suspension/drivetrain work, an uncalibrated torque wrench should be ok I'd think. I have a really lovely beam torque wrench I could use to compare. A while back, I used the Snap-on to torque the Z06's lugnuts to 100 ft-lbs. Lately, the only thing I've torqued is a cassette to a bike wheel, and that's only 30-40 ft-lbs. The 75 ft-lb setting felt closer in my mind to the 30 than the 100. But numerically, it's right in between, so I guess it's not suspect, going off of a memory of sensation. I might have set the Snap-on down hard once, but usually I take care to treat it carefully. Always stored at room temp.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 18:53 |
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kimbo305 posted:Ferrari wisely put a lip on the hub, so things are easy enough once you manage to get the rim centered enough to get onto the lip. From there, lining up the bolt holes is academic. What's funny is that I used to remove those screws and just toss them, until I got a decent car with rotors and hubs that were so corrosion free that the rotor could spin on the hub fairly easily. So when trying to line up my wheel, as soon as I touched the hub it would spin inside the rotor and now nothing is lined up and !@#$%#!
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:25 |
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Been under the weather and waking up at odd hours. Didn't feel great but wanted to see what changes if any the spaced out rears caused to handling. It's hard to tell -- every time I get in the car, the shifting is easier than I remember, the ride quality is smoother and less squeaky, and the steering is more precise and communicative. So with that "this is such a great car to drive" prejudice that comes with every ride, I feel like the car oversteers less now. The car still tells you very obviously how far you are from the grip limit at the rears, but now that limit seems further away after initial turn-in. So a little less nervous. Got this short USB key to plug into the head unit without propping the cover open: Didn't get to hear Nightcall while I was out. The speakers in this car sound so much better than the Z06. That car's audio was the worst of any I've heard. I have no idea why. And got some Sabelt driving shoes: The chunky heels are kind of a drag, but they fit my wide feet while not being bulky side to side.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 07:26 |
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kimbo305 posted:Been under the weather and waking up at odd hours. Didn't feel great but wanted to see what changes if any the spaced out rears caused to handling. It's hard to tell -- every time I get in the car, the shifting is easier than I remember, the ride quality is smoother and less squeaky, and the steering is more precise and communicative. So with that "this is such a great car to drive" prejudice that comes with every ride, I feel like the car oversteers less now. The car still tells you very obviously how far you are from the grip limit at the rears, but now that limit seems further away after initial turn-in. So a little less nervous. http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/catalog/driving-shoes---scuderia.htm
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 08:05 |
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So Italian I need to drive up the coast before the snow comes in rocking the gloves and the shoes. Get a lobster roll and then head off into the sunset.
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 08:43 |
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Don't forget some sunglasses with a side shield to complete the look
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# ? Oct 28, 2015 18:51 |
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kimbo305 posted:And got some Sabelt driving shoes: drat those heels completely defeat the purpose of such a shoe.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 02:49 |
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Some of the Sheep posted:drat those heels completely defeat the purpose of such a shoe. I'm thinking about filing them down. They're not stiff, but they are super thick for a driving shoe.
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# ? Oct 29, 2015 03:08 |
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I tackled something I'd been putting off for a while -- digitizing the old service records for the car. I snapped pictures of all the documents that came with the car, put them in a photo album, and then transcribed the work into my maintenance spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RAmhfKtOOfL0iLgAXMypJHZHF_NvurA3fYAccvyJpGM/edit#gid=962252675 The idea is that any prospective buyer can easily get a complete look at the service history of the car. A few things I've gathered from reading the records: - the light that's been out was noted during the major service mid-2012 - starting has been a chronic issue, with a starter rebuild earlier this year - the overall mechanical condition of the car is good - just under $30k has been spent maintaining the car (on paper, at least), with about half of that in the last major service - no signs that the transmission oil has been replaced. The car shifts pretty well, so I dunno if I want to mess with it - at one point, the car was driven only 370mi over 10 months
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# ? Nov 1, 2015 00:35 |
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kimbo305 posted:I tackled something I'd been putting off for a while -- digitizing the old service records for the car. This is fascinating. Also, what's up with that 1985 entry at the top?
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# ? Nov 1, 2015 03:57 |
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It makes me appreciate what's gone into the car more. A lot of stuff that works now didn't always work. RIP Paul Walker posted:Also, what's up with that 1985 entry at the top? Oops -- should be 1995.
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# ? Nov 1, 2015 07:39 |
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The replacement 55mm wheel bolts should be coming in tomorrow. Haven't done anything on the torque wrench calibration front. I'll use my lovely beam torque wrench as a rough check. What's a reasonable way to swap on the new bolts? Replace one at a time, in a star pattern? Or should I take all the old bolts out and then put the new ones in?
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# ? Nov 5, 2015 06:37 |
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That's one thing I like about beam type torque wrenches, they really can't go out of calibration. If the arrow points to zero at rest, and there's no damage to the beam, it's gonna be right. Shouldn't matter how you put the lugs in, I'd go one at a time just to keep from having to jack up the car.
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# ? Nov 5, 2015 10:33 |
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Beam wrenches can go out of calibration and spec while still pointing to zero, but at that point you just buy a new one. So, same idea?
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# ? Nov 5, 2015 10:36 |
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I don't think you need to worry about it. Unless you've been using it as a hammer I expect it will be pretty close. And more importantly all the lugs are going to get tightened the same amount.
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# ? Nov 5, 2015 20:38 |
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Geirskogul posted:Beam wrenches can go out of calibration and spec while still pointing to zero, but at that point you just buy a new one. So, same idea? Not to argue, but for discussion's sake how do you think that's possible? My understanding is that you'd have to change the properties of the steel for that to happen.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 06:05 |
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The twisting metal weakens over time, and this is greatly exacerbated by bending them in the opposite direction. Which is why I'm told you don't use them to loosen bolts. (I'm probably wrong)
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 06:32 |
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For something as chunky as a 1/2" drive head, wouldn't the torques seen be under the endurance limit?
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 06:38 |
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I'm probably wrong
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 06:45 |
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Just got back from a drive. Half the time I was out there, I kept asking myself if this is the greatest car I've driven. My previous cars that made me want to get out and drive the most were the 944 and the C6 Z06. Thoughts on why:
Where does this put the 348?
I think the question to ask is whether the 348's driving experience is more than the sum of its parts. I would say no. It is a very special car with a special feel. But nothing is out of reach for another manufacturer. Someone else could have built a car that feels like and drives like a Ferrari. Going by Muffinpox's comparison of the NSX and the 348, and sadly not personal experience, the NSX is not that. Honda built a car to their own design goals, not to clone a Ferrari. That makes me glad, because it makes the 348 more special to me. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Nov 6, 2015 |
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quote:reliability wise, it's still early days. I know I have huge maintenance costs ahead. I think that is somewhat liberating Quoting for posterity Nice ride though.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 16:45 |
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Geirskogul posted:The twisting metal weakens over time, and this is greatly exacerbated by bending them in the opposite direction. Which is why I'm told you don't use them to loosen bolts. One of the good things about basic beam-and-needle torque wrenches is that you can use them when undoing stuff to see what torque it takes, as they're marked in both directions normally. Most click-type ones can't help you there, though those with a dial gauge or a digital one can.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 19:11 |
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Dislike button posted:Quoting for posterity The previous major service was $13000. I'm expecting $10-15 for the next one. And a couple of failures that will require shop work instead of DIY between now and then.
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 20:23 |
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kimbo305 posted:The previous major service was $13000. I'm expecting $10-15 for the next one. And a couple of failures that will require shop work instead of DIY between now and then. "I could buy a brand new dodge dart or pay for expected maintenance on a 25 year old high strung money pit, #nbd #yolo"
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 22:26 |
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14 INCH DICK posted:"I could buy a brand new dodge dart or pay for expected maintenance on a 25 year old high strung money pit, #nbd #yolo" At least he isn't the guy in the VW thread who's had like $10k of work done on a car less than 5 years old. I also wonder what the long term maintenance would be on a Dodge that will be worthless in several years. If he paid $50k for the car, keeps it 3 years, does $15k in work to it and sells it for $50k that's not a bad deal at all
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 23:26 |
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Dislike button posted:If he paid $50k for the car, keeps it 3 years, does $15k in work to it and sells it for $50k that's not a bad deal at all That's the big question -- am I losing more money by doing the big service and selling it as ready to drive? Or should I try to discount it and not bother? I dunno where 348 prices are headed. There's plenty of top-condition ones out there, while mine is a driver at best. 355 prices are shooting up, and I dunno if that sends more buyers downmarket?
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# ? Nov 6, 2015 23:44 |
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kimbo305 posted:That's the big question -- am I losing more money by doing the big service and selling it as ready to drive? Or should I try to discount it and not bother? I think your logic is correct. Its like the current Porsche 911 craze, its sending buyers down market to the 914 (and to an extent - 944), because lately 914 prices have started shooting up higher than what is necessary. Though I think Boxster prices still have yet to bottom out, but will reverse in the next 5 years after the 944's start going for silly money. At least the 924 will always be cheap because no one wants them
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 00:25 |
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BrokenKnucklez posted:I think your logic is correct. Its like the current Porsche 911 craze, its sending buyers down market to the 914 (and to an extent - 944), because lately 914 prices have started shooting up higher than what is necessary. Though I think Boxster prices still have yet to bottom out, but will reverse in the next 5 years after the 944's start going for silly money.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 00:48 |
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"Vintage" We aren't talking about enthusiasts, we are talking about idiots. Because no radiator.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 01:23 |
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BrokenKnucklez posted:"Vintage" But again, it's a 914 . I watched the Wheeler Dealer episode on the 914 and nobody is that crazy, right? It has a VW bus engine.
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# ? Nov 7, 2015 02:41 |
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Geirskogul posted:But again, it's a 914 . I watched the Wheeler Dealer episode on the 914 and nobody is that crazy, right? It has a VW bus engine. The trend in pricing proves otherwise. I know, none of us would touch one, but that doesn't mean people aren't snatching them up.
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Some people claim the 914 is underrated. I know the 914/6 has been hyped to infinity.
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