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mcmagic posted:His polls are going to spike 10 points due to the liberal media being out to get him. Nah, if the politico story is true and gets picked up in the mainstream, he should be done after his. He SHOULD be done, but this is 2015 and nothing makes sense anymore.
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They're straight up applying angry black man imagery to him. She didn't bring up any tinfoil theories or lies that he told in the interview, she just tried to make hay out of a pretty lame laugh line in a speech. I lol'd pretty hard at her trying to defend the media by saying that they have meetings everyday to decide the questions to ask candidates to get to the "truth."
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You really are a dubmass if you think that Carson is being attacked for being black instead of being called out for multiple lies and tinfoil hat theories about how the world works.
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Armyman25 posted:They're straight up applying angry black man imagery to him. Nah man that was self applied, he wrote a whole book about his pathological anger.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:57
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zoux posted:Nah, if the politico story is true and gets picked up in the mainstream, he should be done after his. Trump said he would respect McCain more of her didn't get captured and got a bump. Here's the "truth" about Carson, he could have gone to West Point if he wanted, so his false story is true.
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Nov 6, 2015 17:58
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Raerlynn posted:Isn't this the kind of thing stolen valor groups kick your rear end for? Like I get it wasn't actual military service, but lying about getting into a prestigious officer school ought to be worth some kind of outrage. You mean by some kind of group of West Point graduates for truth?
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zoux posted:Yeah all the other poo poo he's lying about he can get by, but (if this story has legs), lying about getting into West Point is bordering on stolen valor and I don't think the GOP primary base can tolerate that. This is the same election where Trump called McCain a loser for being a POW, and then continued to dominate the early polls. I don't know that we can forecast what the Republican primary base will or will not care about now.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:00
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Armyman25 posted:They're straight up applying angry black man imagery to him. She didn't bring up any tinfoil theories or lies that he told in the interview, she just tried to make hay out of a pretty lame laugh line in a speech.  "They are being mean to Ben Carson" From one of the candidates that whined that MSNBC was asking 'Hard Questions' Nintendo Kid posted:Wow, a business didn't meet insanely overexuberant projections? What a surprise! They're still getting stinking rich. So what? This is about Tar Sands, and they are lowering their outlook on Tar Sands. They are a petroleum company, of course they are getting stinking rich. They don't need another State backed pipeline for a lowered outlook, especially under false pretenses like 'Job Creation'
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Frabba posted:This is the same election where Trump called McCain a loser for being a POW, and then continued to dominate the early polls. I don't know that we can forecast what the Republican primary base will or will not care about now. We're going to have to see how this shakes out narrative wise. I do think it's very difficult to spin and Carson's best bet is to try to conflate this with the "witch hunt" they've got going on with CNN right now.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:02
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In 88(?) Diamond Joe had to drop out of the Presidential race cause he lifted parts of a campaign speech without citing them. In 2015 who gives a gently caress make up your whole backstory like you're the goddamn Joker.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:06
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zoux posted:Nah, if the politico story is true and gets picked up in the mainstream, he should be done after his. It's gonna suck hard for him if he is done, because this is pretty much the one thing that could tank his candidacy and his book sales. If this takes off it'll blow him into a million little pieces.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:12
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weekly font posted:In 88(?) Diamond Joe had to drop out of the Presidential race cause he lifted parts of a campaign speech without citing them. In 2015 who gives a gently caress make up your whole backstory like you're the goddamn Joker. This is why I don't believe any polls or anything about the future of either party. We're so far beyond anything resembling normalcy.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:14
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Bushiz posted:It's gonna suck hard for him if he is done, because this is pretty much the one thing that could tank his candidacy and his book sales. If this takes off it'll blow him into a million little pieces. His entire appeal is based on his life story, his journey from a "thug" to a brain surgeon. The evangelical community that is buoying his polling right now eats that poo poo up, they love redemption stories. But if the whole thing is made up, well...
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Nov 6, 2015 18:15
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weekly font posted:In 88(?) Diamond Joe had to drop out of the Presidential race cause he lifted parts of a campaign speech without citing them. In 2015 who gives a gently caress make up your whole backstory like you're the goddamn Joker. Didn't cite them sometimes, he usually actually cited them.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:16
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zoux posted:His entire appeal is based on his life story, his journey from a "thug" to a brain surgeon. The evangelical community that is buoying his polling right now eats that poo poo up, they love redemption stories. But if the whole thing is made up, well... Same group of people rather read fan fiction than the original source; he'll be fine. (I'm talking about the bible)
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Nov 6, 2015 18:16
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zoux posted:His entire appeal is based on his life story, his journey from a "thug" to a brain surgeon. The evangelical community that is buoying his polling right now eats that poo poo up, they love redemption stories. But if the whole thing is made up, well... That's easy enough to spin toward that particular audience, because if there's one thing they like more than just a redemption story, it's a "remorseful sinner asking forgiveness for his transgressions" subplot. So basically all it'll take is a standard non-apology flavored with enough "God has forgiven me, why can't you" bullshit.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:19
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Bushiz posted:It's gonna suck hard for him if he is done, because this is pretty much the one thing that could tank his candidacy and his book sales. If this takes off it'll blow him into a million little pieces. Look at you you clever son of a bitch.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:20
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You're right guys, Ben Carson is an unstoppable juggernaut and we better accept the new reality of his inevitable presidency.
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weekly font posted:In 88(?) Diamond Joe had to drop out of the Presidential race cause he lifted parts of a campaign speech without citing them. In 2015 who gives a gently caress make up your whole backstory like you're the goddamn Joker. Or you can just repeat the wiki article for Gattaca verbatim as a stump speech.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:21
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zoux posted:You're right guys, Ben Carson is an unstoppable juggernaut and we better accept the new reality of his inevitable presidency. I just meant for his evangelical book sales, dude. Chill.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:21
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This West Point lie isn't going to magically bring down Carson. Calm down, USPol.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:22
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Ben Carson is the perfect martyr for the conservative christian persecution story. Facts no longer matter.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:24
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:This West Point lie isn't going to magically bring down Carson. Calm down, USPol. West Point won't bring down his candidacy but it's something that can be confirmed, and it hurts the already lagging credibility of his redemption arc. But him going down depends on who comes swinging at him for this one. I feel like this is a good opportunity for Cruz to cannibalize his supporters.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:25
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His campaign has admitted he made it up. They can't just go back on it and say "media lies", the confirmation came from his own camp.
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zoux posted:You're right guys, Ben Carson is an unstoppable juggernaut and we better accept the new reality of his inevitable presidency.
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LeeMajors posted:Ben Carson is the perfect martyr for the conservative christian persecution story. Facts have never mattered. 
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Nov 6, 2015 18:26
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Whoa holy poo poo.
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weekly font posted:In 88(?) Diamond Joe had to drop out of the Presidential race cause he lifted parts of a campaign speech without citing them. In 2015 who gives a gently caress make up your whole backstory like you're the goddamn Joker. To use an old acronym from the beginning of the blogs days: IOKIYAR.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:28
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zoux posted:His campaign has admitted he made it up. They can't just go back on it and say "media lies", the confirmation came from his own camp. Yeah, and he can claim that he mixed it up with another luncheon/meeting and go on about how his ROTC service changed his life and how he became a lauded surgeon and why the liberal media is distracting people with that instead of focusing on the economy and jobs and national security and stuff that matters. You know, the stuff that he and other republican candidates have been doing, him and Trump successfully railing against the liberal media.
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Nov 6, 2015 18:34
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I actually thought that West Point was tuition free.
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Joementum posted:I actually thought that West Point was tuition free. It is, their spokeswoman in the Politico article said there's no such thing as a full scholarship because there's no tuition to pay.
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Badger of Basra posted:It is, their spokeswoman in the Politico article said there's no such thing as a full scholarship because there's no tuition to pay. Well, that clears up my confusion about that! Thanks.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Yeah, and he can claim that he mixed it up with another luncheon/meeting and go on about how his ROTC service changed his life and how he became a lauded surgeon and why the liberal media is distracting people with that instead of focusing on the economy and jobs and national security and stuff that matters. drat, you should go work for the Carson campaign!
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Joementum posted:Well, that clears up my confusion about that! Thanks. In fact you are paid to attend because you hold a military pay grade. When I went your take home pay started at like $65 a month and went up to maybe 300ish senior year. I am old. 
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Nov 6, 2015 18:42
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Y'all know about the movie they made about his book right?
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Republican Twitter is blowing up right now, wondering why the media never fact checked Hillary's military story: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/15/us/hillary-clinton-says-she-once-tried-to-be-marine.html quote:Speaking at a lunch on Capitol Hill honoring military women, Hillary Rodham Clinton said that she once visited a recruiting office in Arkansas to inquire about joining the Marines.
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Bushiz posted:It's gonna suck hard for him if he is done, because this is pretty much the one thing that could tank his candidacy and his book sales. If this takes off it'll blow him into a million little pieces. I hope you meant to do that. efb
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Unless general westmoreland shows up at the end of that story, it's not really at the same level of talespinng.
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The 18 year old who stabbed four people at UC Merced left behind a detailed plan. He did it because he was angry about being kicked out of a study group. His master plan was to zip cuff students in a classroom to desks, wait for the police, and spray petroleum jelly on the ground so they would slip and fall and he would take their guns and shoot everyone.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Republican Twitter is blowing up right now, wondering why the media never fact checked Hillary's military story: I agree with Republicans on Twitter! All candidates should have to submit documented proof of their military service, if they claim it. Past Presidents should lead by example here.
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