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pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.
I am so mad I decided to read Lazarus in trades. :smith:

Anyone else pick up the new Warren Ellis Bond or the Grant Morrison Santa-as-badass-ranger? I thought both were pretty great. Was talking about the Bond with some folks and we decided that basically all Ellis protagonists are some sort of James Bond derivative anyway, so it works suprisingly well.

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Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


I'm not really sure how I feel about Klaus. I'm prolly the second biggest Santa fan on the forums next to Benito Cereno and Morrison is one of the strongest writers working today. Unfortunately I feel like Klaus draws too heavily from the Rankin/Bass Santa special. Grimsvig is pretty much straight up Sombertown and Lord Magnus is legit just the Burgermeister Meisterburger.

The sequence where Santa goes on a shamanic vision quest is legit, though.

Benito Cereno
Jan 20, 2006

ALLEZ-OUP!
I picked up Klaus today, and while I haven't read it yet, I flipped through it and I can tell that I shouldn't have been worried that Morrison's version of Santa would overlap with my own Christmas comics too much. It definitely looks like it's pulling from Santa Claus Is Coming to Town more than any authentic existing lore.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
I'm liking Shutter but I'm not really interested in the whole lion-man has family problems/vacation in cat-land thing they've got going. It's still good but not really that interesting compared to previous issues.

Also I was getting Quest for Glory 2 flashbacks looking at those alleyways and city in Shutter #16. I wonder if that was a reference?

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?
Does anyone know how long Velvet is suppose to go for?

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

Red Mundus posted:

I'm liking Shutter but I'm not really interested in the whole lion-man has family problems/vacation in cat-land thing they've got going. It's still good but not really that interesting compared to previous issues.

Also I was getting Quest for Glory 2 flashbacks looking at those alleyways and city in Shutter #16. I wonder if that was a reference?

Shutter has lion-people? :3: I must read this comic.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010

Hedrigall posted:

Shutter has lion-people? :3: I must read this comic.

Oh you have no idea. Entire cities!

It's a good comic but starting to feel disjointed. It was steady early on but right now around issue 15-16 it's a bit eh.

Still miles better than most poo poo I've read but I'm curious to see where it's all going, if anywhere.

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.

bobkatt013 posted:

Does anyone know how long Velvet is suppose to go for?

I hope forever.

babua
Apr 29, 2009

JohnnyCanuck posted:

I have no idea how they're going to finish up We Stand On Guard, but what a glorious, bloody book.

Hear hear, I love that it doesn't pull punches, and I guess we can thank the fact that it's a limited run for that.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

babua posted:

Hear hear, I love that it doesn't pull punches, and I guess we can thank the fact that it's a limited run for that.

How many issues is it planned for?

JohnnyCanuck
May 28, 2004

Strong And/Or Free
6 total, and we just got #5.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

W+D

Ananke's poo poo is coming undone. :unsmigghh:

Nobby
Sep 10, 2006

Everyone cries when they're stabbed. There's no shame in that.

SynthOrange posted:

W+D

Ananke's poo poo is coming undone. :unsmigghh:

Fear for Minerva.

That was a lot more Vampire: the Masquerade than I expected.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



W+D 16:

Bapho-burger! :haw:

And (possibly) more evidence that Ananke can give powers to people at her leisure, rather than because they're destined.

No freaking clue what's happening in the Videogames ending. Can they see into The Morrigan's past somehow?

Nobby
Sep 10, 2006

Everyone cries when they're stabbed. There's no shame in that.

Combed Thunderclap posted:

W+D 16:

No freaking clue what's happening in the Videogames ending. Can they see into The Morrigan's past somehow?



If you try to catch a picture/video of the Morrigan, instead it shows your death.

And I'm pretty sure that was Dionysus there, pre-ascension, doing the filming. That's his smiley face button, and he looks like the figure McKelvie pointed out in the crowd in the first Morrigan sequence as him. Whether that means he somehow changed his fate by becoming a god or if he's still going to die alone in a hospital bed, I don't know.

Nobby fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Nov 12, 2015

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Nobby posted:


If you try to catch a picture/video of the Morrigan, instead it shows your death.

And that was Dionysus there, pre-ascension, filming.


Ah, thanks!

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Ok, I love weird quasi Biblical stories and Jason Aaron has completely won me over with The Goddamned #1. Holy poo poo I am all in for this series.

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


Monstress is the fantasy I've been waiting for, and with a triple-length first issue, it's already in my top single issues of the year. Good god I hope it can keep this quality up.

marblize
Sep 6, 2015

Space Fish posted:

Monstress is the fantasy I've been waiting for, and with a triple-length first issue, it's already in my top single issues of the year. Good god I hope it can keep this quality up.

I dug it too. Someone on the last page called it scenery porn? does that mean, like, a lot of meditative taking in of the environments? I didn't really get that from this, it seemed fairly action packed, but that sounds like something I would also like :P

trashbuilder
Dec 26, 2013

Look at all the poor opinions I have
is jason aaron no longer doing southern bastards or is this just a fill in thing?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Just a fill-in thing.

krakagar
Sep 26, 2010

Nobby posted:


If you try to catch a picture/video of the Morrigan, instead it shows your death.

And I'm pretty sure that was Dionysus there, pre-ascension, doing the filming. That's his smiley face button, and he looks like the figure McKelvie pointed out in the crowd in the first Morrigan sequence as him. Whether that means he somehow changed his fate by becoming a god or if he's still going to die alone in a hospital bed, I don't know.


Gillen talks about this in his notes for this issue. here

Gonna keep this spoilered as its refers to upcoming stuff too...

What you actually see is not your own death but the person you're going to fall in love with, at the moment of their death. Also confirmed that this is Dionysus, and this is leading directly in to the plot of the next arc. So who's the person on the bed? They appear to have some kind of marks or tattoos on their arms...

Also, it gets said every issue, but gently caress Annanke! That lady is just the worst. Its definitely looking as if she can transform people at will.

Also, this issue was lots of fun! NONE MORE GOTH! etc... I really enjoyed Cameron and Marian's backstory, and the weirdly light-hearted tone of the thing really worked, unlike in the first issue of the arc which was kind of jarring. I was really sold on the relationship. I'm not so sold on Baal's increasingly tortured and clumsy insults though (Though I guess I did kind of like "Crow Road to Nowhere").

Starsnostars
Jan 17, 2009

The Master of Magnetism
Cameron painted Warhammer models exactly like I used to (terribly) which I liked.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



krakagar posted:

I'm not so sold on Baal's increasingly tortured and clumsy insults though (Though I guess I did kind of like "Crow Road to Nowhere").

It works for me since I'm pretty sure Baal just isn't that bright. He's basically been Ananke's unknowing muscle with how reactionary, unthinking, and uncontrolled he is. I'm still pissed with the way he tried to bring in Luci by just thunderbolting the poo poo out of everything, way to deescalate dumbass.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

trashbuilder posted:

is jason aaron no longer doing southern bastards or is this just a fill in thing?

Letting the artist do an issue. Its Aaron and Latour book and if one of them leave its all over.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

bobkatt013 posted:

Letting the artist do an issue. Its Aaron and Latour book and if one of them leave its all over.

He's just doing the one though right? It wasn't bad or anything but I'm Here For Aaron.

Speaking of Goddamned is going to be extremely good.

Cloks
Feb 1, 2013

by Azathoth

zoux posted:

He's just doing the one though right? It wasn't bad or anything but I'm Here For Aaron.

Speaking of Goddamned is going to be extremely good.

Goddamned is extremely good. The first issue is mostly scene setting but it's well written and the art is perfect for the story.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Cloks posted:

Goddamned is extremely good. The first issue is mostly scene setting but it's well written and the art is perfect for the story.

Second this.

I was hesitant at first. I ended up really enjoying the book from top to bottom.

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry
InStockTrades is having a sizable sale on indie trades. Tell me, is Injection any good?

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!

lotus circle posted:

InStockTrades is having a sizable sale on indie trades. Tell me, is Injection any good?

If you're an Ellis fan, it's great. If not, it's pretty good. I think the art carries a lot of the work, but the story is a neat present day wandering into urban fantasy stuff.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
What cool comic gifts are you guys hoping to get for xmas?

I asked my boyfriend to get me Shutter vol. 1 and Step Aside, Pops! (the second Hark! A Vagrant collection), and I'm gonna ask my brother for Sex Criminals vol. 2.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Hedrigall posted:

What cool comic gifts are you guys hoping to get for xmas?

I asked my boyfriend to get me Shutter vol. 1 and Step Aside, Pops! (the second Hark! A Vagrant collection), and I'm gonna ask my brother for Sex Criminals vol. 2.

I always ask my partner to get me a random trade. She always gets me the weirdest poo poo I've never read and it's been a winning formula each time.

lifg
Dec 4, 2000
<this tag left blank>
Muldoon

LordPants posted:

I always ask my partner to get me a random trade. She always gets me the weirdest poo poo I've never read and it's been a winning formula each time.

I used to get the same effect by buying trades on eBay in lots, which always had one or two I wanted and a few I've never heard of.

Cyphoderus
Apr 21, 2010

I'll have you know, foxes have the finest call in nature
Is anyone else getting tired of how emotionally manipulative Saga is? Back when it started, it looked like the comic was aiming to explore war and tolerance in interesting ways but now it's clear that they're less interested in exploring these issues than using them as vehicles to bring absolute misery into the lives of these characters the comic labors so much to make us care about.

I got the exact same impression from reading Game of Thrones, where it seemed the book cared less about telling a story and more about exploiting a hot-cold dynamic with the reader. I think there's a Warren Ellis quote where he criticizes We3 for getting most of its kick from emotional manipulation ("Here are some adorable cute animals! Now watch them die!"), and I think Saga has fallen into the same trap – "Here's a glimmer of hope for this family that deserves happiness! Now watch it crumble away in the most horrifying possible way!" over and over again. The ending of this week's issue was ridiculous.

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

i got very tired of Saga in general around the third trade. the art's consistently fantastic but it's some pretty weak writing by BKV standards.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
Yeah, I've kind of given up on Saga.

Space Fish
Oct 14, 2008

The original Big Tuna.


My annoyances with Saga come partly from the emotional manipulation but also from what are now clearly Vaughan-isms. A character's feelings are allowed to disrupt the plot or others' motivations if they shout 'gently caress.' Narration from the future-girl will always be presented as Chicken Soup For Saga's Soul and unquestionably true. Fiona Staples's art will keep bailing out BKV's apparent lack of interest in layout - giant splash page with a quip, please! I used to read about BKV deferring to the talents of Staples at cons and think cool, a writer who can share the credit, but now it's clear she's keeping the ship afloat. I also remember reading a claim about a dragon sucking its own dick several months ago and thinking it was a metaphor, then read that trade and lost all interest in the story. The cast used to lively and unpredictable, now they're just a bunch of mopey assholes who keep using "my BABY" to justify dire measures.

Two issues into Paper Girls, I'm worried all the same problems will emerge. Save us, Chiang... you're our only hope.

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010

Space Fish posted:

I also remember reading a claim about a dragon sucking its own dick several months ago and thinking it was a metaphor, then read that trade and lost all interest in the story.

:stare: Wait, what? I dropped Saga ages ago but this sounds uh, rather odd.

Shitshow
Jul 25, 2007

We still have not found a machine that can measure the intensity of love. We would all buy it.

Red Mundus posted:

:stare: Wait, what? I dropped Saga ages ago but this sounds uh, rather odd.

Dragon semen was a required ingredient to help an ailing character and upon finding said dragon, he was sucking his own massive penis. I can't remember if he brought himself to orgasm or not.

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SomeJazzyRat
Nov 2, 2012

Hmmm...
Yep. :nws:

Edit: fixed spoilers, table breakage

SomeJazzyRat fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Nov 29, 2015

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