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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Phlegmish posted:

Why does Ron Paul fear a Trump presidency?

i dunno, who the gently caress knows whats going in that feeble and diseased mind

why do you think trump actually plans to implement any socialist policies after seeing his tax plan or just in general why the gently caress do you believe anything a huge liar says?

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Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

i'm voting trump because i lust for cum death

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

This is nothing new. As soon as Carson made it clear he does not separate his religious faith from his public life, the Secular-Humanist zealots, who only allow the religion of Secular-Humanism in the public square and run our mass media, took aim.

Obama has spent, allegedly, millions of taxpayer dollars sealing his college records. It took over two years to get any information out of Hawaii about Obama's birth certificate--a Constitutional requirement! And, if we are going to split hairs with Carson, then how come no one complained when Obama claimed to have been a "Constitutional law professor" when, in fact, his official title was merely "senior lecturer"? Obama outright lied on this count--Carson did not in his situation.

Should we even mention Hillary? We have documented evidence PROVING she lied about Benghazi where four Americans serving their country were murdered. And then there is the issue of actual accomplishments: Carson was one of the top neural surgeons in the world, and Hillary was, well, Hillary (and that's about it). But the media ignores this and focuses on THE CHRISTIAN.

It's quite clear: Secular-Humanism is the Official State Religion.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Nonsense posted:

This is nothing new. As soon as Carson made it clear he does not separate his religious faith from his public life, the Secular-Humanist zealots, who only allow the religion of Secular-Humanism in the public square and run our mass media, took aim.

Obama has spent, allegedly, millions of taxpayer dollars sealing his college records. It took over two years to get any information out of Hawaii about Obama's birth certificate--a Constitutional requirement! And, if we are going to split hairs with Carson, then how come no one complained when Obama claimed to have been a "Constitutional law professor" when, in fact, his official title was merely "senior lecturer"? Obama outright lied on this count--Carson did not in his situation.

Should we even mention Hillary? We have documented evidence PROVING she lied about Benghazi where four Americans serving their country were murdered. And then there is the issue of actual accomplishments: Carson was one of the top neural surgeons in the world, and Hillary was, well, Hillary (and that's about it). But the media ignores this and focuses on THE CHRISTIAN.

It's quite clear: Secular-Humanism is the Official State Religion.

Which comments section is this from? It seems too literate to have been cribbed from Freep.

Also LOL at Hillary having no accomplishments: First Lady, Senator from New York, Secretary of State, etc.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
The panic coming out of Rush right now signals to me Carson is DONE.

Dude sounds like he just got caught lying...

jerk1000
Dec 3, 2014

Alter Ego posted:

Which comments section is this from? It seems too literate to have been cribbed from Freep.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
The mistake that Carson made was telling the truth, if he kept lying he would have lasted a few more weeks.

Herv
Mar 24, 2005

Soiled Meat

Thump! posted:

7 white folks beating the poo poo out of a black man might be bad optics for the GOP.

Or good, I guess, depending on your viewpoint.

Tuesday night, Carson in the fetal position behind his podium. Probably with pooped pants.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Nonsense posted:

This is nothing new. As soon as Carson made it clear he does not separate his religious faith from his public life, the Secular-Humanist zealots, who only allow the religion of Secular-Humanism in the public square and run our mass media, took aim.

Obama has spent, allegedly, millions of taxpayer dollars sealing his college records. It took over two years to get any information out of Hawaii about Obama's birth certificate--a Constitutional requirement! And, if we are going to split hairs with Carson, then how come no one complained when Obama claimed to have been a "Constitutional law professor" when, in fact, his official title was merely "senior lecturer"? Obama outright lied on this count--Carson did not in his situation.

Should we even mention Hillary? We have documented evidence PROVING she lied about Benghazi where four Americans serving their country were murdered. And then there is the issue of actual accomplishments: Carson was one of the top neural surgeons in the world, and Hillary was, well, Hillary (and that's about it). But the media ignores this and focuses on THE CHRISTIAN.

It's quite clear: Secular-Humanism is the Official State Religion.

Smoothrich alt account discovered.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

He's going with "I never applied, but people told me I would have easily gotten in", which given that he ended up going to Yale instead, seems likely.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Joementum posted:

He's going with "I never applied, but people told me I would have easily gotten in", which given that he ended up going to Yale instead, seems likely.

Doesn't his book explicitly say that he got a sponsorship from Gen. Westmoreland? Which part's the lie, that he was offered the sponsorship/nomination/whatever or that he never "technically" applied?

mormonpartyboat posted:

There's no such thing as a scholarship to a military academy. They're free. Once you hit your third year, you are 'committed' and have to pay back your education if you drop out/get kicked out, and your commitment includes several years of service.

And, like you mentioned, there's no such thing as an 'offer' to a service academy. Because it's free, there's exactly two steps to get in: apply and get a nomination. Only people who have done those things are eligible for appointment. There's no shortcuts, no ways to get in without those, etc.

Actually, this makes it much clearer. So Westmoreland could not POSSIBLY have "offered" Carson anything UNLESS he'd already applied, but if there's no record of the application, the Westmoreland story is a lie because there'd be no reason to offer a non-applicant admission to West Point.

Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Nov 6, 2015

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
Guaranteed he's going to be asked a question about this during the debate and guaranteed he'll pull a Rubio.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Joementum posted:

He's going with "I never applied, but people told me I would have easily gotten in", which given that he ended up going to Yale instead, seems likely.

That brings up another aspect of his claims I found strange; he apparently only applied to Yale. Which if true, at the very least, implies a great deal of stupidity. Sure it's considerably harder to get into good schools now than it was back than, but still.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Alter Ego posted:

Doesn't his book explicitly say that he got a sponsorship from Gen. Westmoreland? Which part's the lie, that he was offered the sponsorship/nomination/whatever or that he never "technically" applied?

He's now saying that Westmoreland personally offered to help him apply him when they met, but he never followed up on the offer because he decided to apply to Yale instead.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Shakugan posted:

That brings up another aspect of his claims I found strange; he apparently only applied to Yale. Which if true, at the very least, implies a great deal of stupidity. Sure it's considerably harder to get into good schools now than it was back than, but still.

His explanation for that, for whatever it's worth, from his book:



Obviously, that doesn't cover West Point, which doesn't have an application fee.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Logikv9 posted:

Guaranteed he's going to be asked a question about this during the debate and guaranteed he'll pull a Rubio.

"Dr. Carson, some people question your service to this country in thinking about applying to West Point, can you then tell us what are your thoughts on grain storage capacity for a four thousand hundredweight of hard red spring wheat?"

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
There is still video and print of him saying "I got a scholarship to West Point"

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/11/06/conservative-media-react-to-ben-carsons-admissi/206676

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Joementum posted:

He's now saying that Westmoreland personally offered to help him apply him when they met, but he never followed up on the offer because he decided to apply to Yale instead.

Welp, pretty sure that's gonna let him off the hook with the crazies, because IOKIYAR. I mean, if Carson was a Democrat and got caught with his pants down like this, they'd be baying for his blood, but he's not.

His polls won't drop one iota. It'll be chalked up to "gotcha journalism" and "evil liebrul word games" and "how dare you slander the only black man, who's the REAL racists?"

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Joementum posted:

His explanation for that, for whatever it's worth, from his book:



Obviously, that doesn't cover West Point, which doesn't have an application fee.

Undergraduate admissions at top schools are such a crapshoot that spending the only application fee that you can apparently afford on one of them is ill-advised. Regardless, I'd not be at all surprised to learn he applied to many places and is lying.

NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
I just want to say that whoever brought Smoothrich an avatar should be kicking themselves right now. I mean, no matter how bad it is, it's still better then Bonzi Buddy.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Alter Ego posted:

Which comments section is this from? It seems too literate to have been cribbed from Freep.

Also LOL at Hillary having no accomplishments: First Lady, Senator from New York, Secretary of State, etc.

Obama's 'alleged' corrupt dictator sealing of a high school records in the Legion of Doom that is some Honolulu office.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Alter Ego posted:

Welp, pretty sure that's gonna let him off the hook with the crazies, because IOKIYAR. I mean, if Carson was a Democrat and got caught with his pants down like this, they'd be baying for his blood, but he's not.

His polls won't drop one iota. It'll be chalked up to "gotcha journalism" and "evil liebrul word games" and "how dare you slander the only black man, who's the REAL racists?"

It won't do anything on its own but it sounds like a lot of poo poo is snowballing right now and the sum total of that could wreck him

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven


https://www.facebook.com/138691142964027/posts/513020902197714

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

Joementum posted:

He's going with "I never applied, but people told me I would have easily gotten in", which given that he ended up going to Yale instead, seems likely.

Problem with that is, IIRC, there's only 20 appointments from the referenced category at any one time, which includes ROTC, JROTC, and Honor Schools. Being the top JROTC person in Detroit simply isn't enough to guarantee that you'll take one of the 5 openings on average every year.

Not saying he wouldn't have gotten in had he tried, just that it's absolutely not as clear cut as he makes it seem.

Alter Ego posted:

So Westmoreland could not POSSIBLY have "offered" Carson anything UNLESS he'd already applied, but if there's no record of the application, the Westmoreland story is a lie because there'd be no reason to offer a non-applicant admission to West Point.

Westmoreland couldn't have really offered anything concrete to Carson at any step along the process, unless it was literally sitting down and helping Carson fill out the application forms.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Joementum posted:

He's going with "I never applied, but people told me I would have easily gotten in", which given that he ended up going to Yale instead, seems likely.

Carson is technically correct and gonna sliiiide

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Man, Rush is really going all out in defense of Carson. Just called this a digital lynch mob.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jan 22, 2016

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Do Not Resuscitate posted:

Sounds like as an ROTC student, his commander said something along the lines of, "Hey, if you wanted to go to West Point, I could get you in" and Carson Brian-Williams'd this into an endorsement/golden-ticket/scholarship/acceptance to West Point.

Dr. Carson, you are technically correct--THE BEST KIND OF CORRECT.

I genuinely do not think this will affect Carson's polls one bit. The lunatics planning on voting for him aren't going anywhere based on a story that they already believe was concocted by the evil liberal media.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

Somewhere, Jeb is kneeling before a sword, thanking Chang for his intervention.

He will momentarily trip over the sword.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Alter Ego posted:

Dr. Carson, you are technically correct--THE BEST KIND OF CORRECT.

Didn't know Fishmech was managing the Carson campaign

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Joementum posted:

Wow, did anyone predict that once Ben Carson led in the polls he'd face additional media scrutiny leading to a collapse?

Lol.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Do It Once Right posted:

Ben Carson has openly admitted to academic plagiarism in one of his books, which also was discovered to have instances of plagiarism.
In his book, he wrote how he learned an important lesson from his college plagiarism and would never plagiarize again.

:vince:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Pinterest Mom posted:

god bless 2015 :allears:


Lmao we've reached this point.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

He plagiarized his plagiarism experience. Meta-plagiarism.

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

AARP LARPer fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Jan 22, 2016

Kylra
Dec 1, 2006

Not a cute boy, just a boring girl.

Joementum posted:

Honestly, I would love to hear Hillary Clinton's answer to, "Do you believe the Egyptian pyramids were grain silos constructed by Joseph?"
I want this to happen now.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Logikv9 posted:

He has done brain surgery at some point in the past.

At this point I'm pretty sure all his patients were just hand puppets.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

steinrokkan posted:

At this point I'm pretty sure all his patients were just hand puppets.

to every patient he gave a piece of his superior brain

eventually, his stopped working

:rip:

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

stoutfish posted:

"i did hit her! i did! oh hai marco"

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