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a shameful boehner posted:what exactly was the context behind this image again? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5f0IC3tWyU
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Joementum posted:Least surprising story ever: A bunch of Congressional Republicans are car dealership owners who want to sell John Boehner a car. Did Issa offer to steal one for him?
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a shameful boehner posted:what exactly was the context behind this image again? Literally the day after Benghazi, Mitt Romney held a press conference to attack Obama for it. That picture was taken while he was walking away from the podium afterwards.
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Nov 6, 2015 23:47
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ah that's right. what a bottomless sack of poo poo the republican party has become
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Nov 6, 2015 23:49
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a shameful boehner posted:what exactly was the context behind this image again? Mitt Romney giving a press conference about Benghazi the day after it occured once it was known four people were killed, grinning the entire time.
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Nov 6, 2015 23:55
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evilweasel posted:Mitt Romney giving a press conference about Benghazi the day after it occured once it was known four people were killed, grinning the entire time. He also walked off in the middle of it with that grin in mid question, iirc.
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Nov 7, 2015 00:18
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pathetic little tramp posted:Oh poo poo guys, here it is in plain English: full scholarships! Don't you literally need a congressperson to write you a recommendation? I mean it's more of a formality than anything, it's not like your local congressperson will say no if a West Point recruiter asks them to write one, but the point is maybe Carson is confused because even the ads for West Point are lying!
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Nov 7, 2015 00:31
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Chokes McGee posted:He also walked off in the middle of it with that grin in mid question, iirc. I said it was inappropriate for a presidential candidate to be holding press conferences and apparently smiling over a percieved political victory without any of us knowing what's happened and this let to several retired people I knew chiding me for thinking I knew what I was talking about but the liberal media and my own young naïve ignorance of how Obama was actually terrible was misleading me.
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Nov 7, 2015 00:35
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eSports Chaebol posted:Don't you literally need a congressperson to write you a recommendation? He says he met General Westmoreland who told him he could get in. Remember, this was in 1968 and Westmoreland was the Army Chief of Staff and commander in Vietnam. It's pretty obvious he could have gotten Carson into West Point if he wanted.
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Nov 7, 2015 00:37
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Yeah, its congresscritter or an officer's recommendation. Westmoreland probably qualified. So yeah, he's technically correct but it's not like they sent him a letter or anything.
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Nov 7, 2015 00:47
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I kind of believe his story. Is that terrible. Sounds like something that probably did in fact happen.
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Nov 7, 2015 00:48
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Hollismason posted:I kind of believe his story. Is that terrible. Sounds like something that probably did in fact happen. Didn't they confirm that Westmoreland wasn't even around at the time?
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I don't think so. They only confirmed that Westpoint did not in fact offer him a scholarship. quote:There are, however, several reports of an event in February of that year, similar to the one Carson described. Then, Westmoreland was the featured guest at a 1,500-person banquet to celebrate Medal of Honor recipient Dwight Johnson. The event drew prominent guests, including the governor at the time, the mayor of Detroit, the president of Ford Motor Company and nine previous Medal of Honor awardees, according to an Associated Press account of the event. I dunno why he would lie about a event like this for like loving decades. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Nov 7, 2015 |
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Nov 7, 2015 00:56
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eSports Chaebol posted:Don't you literally need a congressperson to write you a recommendation? I mean it's more of a formality than anything, it's not like your local congressperson will say no if a West Point recruiter asks them to write one, but the point is maybe Carson is confused because even the ads for West Point are lying! The process of getting a nomination from a congresscritter is actually pretty competitive, you have to submit a bunch of letters of recommendation and test scores and have your application go up against the others your Rep/Senator's received. Each office only has a certain number of nominations. If you happen to have a letter of recommendation from a freaking General, though, you really would be a shoo-in. Edit: I'm not aware of a system where an officer could nominate someone directly. A system of days past? 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Didn't they confirm that Westmoreland wasn't even around at the time? Yeah, they confirmed he was in Washington DC on Memorial Day that year so people are saying Carson misremembered what parade he was at or when he actually met Westmoreland.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:00
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pathetic little tramp posted:Yeah, they confirmed he was in Washington DC on Memorial Day that year so people are saying Carson misremembered what parade he was at or when he actually met Westmoreland. Oh. Well, yeah. I guess it's possible. Politico really jumped the gun on that one, boy, I dunno.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:01
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It's such a long stretch plus he didn't double down on it like he has at other poo poo. I mean we're talking about someone who doubled down on his statement of fighting off a mass shooter. It's a completely believable and plausible story. I legitimately believe Ben Carson has some sort of spectrum disorder.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:02
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Absurd Alhazred posted:boy, I dunno.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I thought it was pretty much accepted that Obama administration trotted the youtube video out because the Benghazi attack was in direct contradiction to their claims of Al-Queda being weakened/beaten back. Why was it "embarrassing"? There was tons of conflicting info going down for a good while, considering there were actual protests all over the ME. And as someone mentioned, the administration came out and corrected themselves later. Which is one of (many, MANY) things I find funny about this inane BENGHAZI! conspiracy. Obama and Hillary had this brilliant plan that they would try to save face on the terrorist attack by blaming it on a video (which did exist and WAS causing problems in other parts of the ME), only to back away from this just mere days later? Really? That was their master plan?
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More fun facts about getting into the military academies: the only other people besides your Congressperson woman can nominate are the President and the Vice President, so if absolutely necessary you can always try to throw yourself on the mercy of ol' Diamond Joe. 
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Nov 7, 2015 01:05
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Okay, had a chance to watch that ad now and I'm not worried at all about Vitters' ad Obamanem attacks. Vitter's going to get crucified because if he ends up getting re-elected LA is going to be the first state to get kicked out of the union
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Nov 7, 2015 01:06
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Hollismason posted:I don't think so. They only confirmed that Westpoint did not in fact offer him a scholarship. I mean, at what point was Carson gonna say "so that West Point story I've been telling for [a year/several years/over a decade] is a fiction based loosely on true events from my past"? If anything, the longer he told the lie, the more likely it became that he would continue to tell it.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:10
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Epic High Five posted:Okay, had a chance to watch that ad now and I'm not worried at all about Vitters' ad Obamanem attacks. Vitter's going to get crucified because if he ends up getting re-elected LA is going to be the first state to get kicked out of the union Pretty sure Texas and Florida are much better candidates for that tbh. Hell, wait a few years and Florida gets kicked out just because it's submerged.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Pretty sure Texas and Florida are much better candidates for that tbh.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Pretty sure Texas and Florida are much better candidates for that tbh. What we consider Louisiana is already half-submerged.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:18
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Carson's lie is so minor. He wasn't technically offered a scholarship, but someone told him he could get in if he wanted to go. I'm not surprised he forgot the difference 30 years later when he wrote the book. Doesn't matter.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:22
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Built 4 Cuban Linux posted:Carson's lie is so minor. When you aren't a person of substance, it doesn't take much to topple your character.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:28
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It really isn't a big deal. Him imploding over being unable to just say "I probably misremembered it and made it sound different than it was. Sorry about that. Not a big deal, right?" could be a big deal. Especially when he keeps getting questioned about his alleged past as a violent psychopath, Mannatech, crazy pyramid theories, his religion, or whatever other weird thing people can ask him to make him snap.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:33
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Bad news, this isn't going to harm him with his base at all because acting indignant and then pivoting to something totally unrelated is all they know Carson just handed the #2 or #3 spot to Cruz tonight, it's just a matter of old meltyface being smart enough to jump on it
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Nov 7, 2015 01:33
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Epic High Five posted:Bad news, this isn't going to harm him with his base at all because acting indignant and then pivoting to something totally unrelated is all they know What did he say now? I don't know why this whole thing would bring Cruz up.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:45
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Hollismason posted:What did he say now? I don't know why this whole thing would bring Cruz up. If Carson loses anybody it's going to be evangelicals, and Cruz just seems like the first place they'd go looking with Santorum being such a non-starter
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Nov 7, 2015 01:49
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Hollismason posted:What did he say now? I don't know why this whole thing would bring Cruz up. Just the usual "You liberal media are out to get me and are totally unfair and never scrutinize Obama or Hillary." That's right up Cruz's ally of bullshit so he'll jump all over it like he did during the CNBC debate. Since no one actually cares about Cruz so he just has to draft off the more popular candidates.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:50
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Fifteen years ago today was the first time a First Lady was elected to public office.
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Hollismason posted:I dunno why he would lie about a event like this for like loving decades.
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Nov 7, 2015 01:59
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Combed Thunderclap posted:More fun facts about getting into the military academies: the only other people besides your Congressperson woman can nominate are the President and the Vice President, so if absolutely necessary you can always try to throw yourself on the mercy of ol' Diamond Joe. Naw, the son/daughter of an O5 (LT Colonel/Commander) can get in on their parent's status
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Nov 7, 2015 02:20
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Boon posted:Naw, the son/daughter of an O5 (LT Colonel/Commander) can get in on their parent's status This is what kept me out the Naval Academy. One appointment for my Rep and it went to the kid with lower grades and fewer varsity letters cause his dad was an O-5 instructor there.  He didn't even accept the appointment, and I thank him every time I see him for helping me to dodge that bullet after going ROTC instead. That being said, one of my old XO's commented on FB after I posted the Politico story on Carson, and he responded with an article out of loving the Daily Wire written by Ben Shapiro. 
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Nov 7, 2015 02:32
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Ben Carson is a man of honesty and integrity.
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Nov 7, 2015 02:53
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Ballz posted:Ben Carson is a man of honesty and integrity. Politifact rates this statement Mostly Untrue.
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Kalman posted:Politifact rates this statement Mostly Untrue. Half true. Ben Carson is a man
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