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computer parts posted:The Confederates had a habit of claiming more territory than they actually controlled. I guess Kentucky isn't in the South either.
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El Disco posted:I guess Kentucky isn't in the South either. Correct, under the previous definition.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:18 |
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You don't need to be in the South to be a racist shitbag fyi.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:21 |
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Rygar201 posted:Yeah, Missouri explicitly voted down secession. Most of Missouri voted down secession, those in favor set up a rump government and 'seceded' but Union troops controlled the state from the get go.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:24 |
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So when are we expected to see big downturns in Sander's campaign? He's doing fine against Hillary in Primary states, is it just supposed to keep looking better until 'surprise skewed polls' Hillary wins Iowa?
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:25 |
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Deep south, a state of being.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:26 |
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Most of Missouri voted down secession, those in favor set up a rump government and 'seceded' but Union troops controlled the state from the get go. There was a kinda similar process surrounding the formation of West Virginia. Officially you can't create a state from pieces of another state without that other state's consent, so the "totally legit" recognized government of Virginia formed and gave their blessing for West Virginia to become its own state.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:30 |
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El Disco posted:One of the 13 stars on the confederate battle flag represents Missouri, so yes. There were 13 states that the rebels had hoped would secede, but only 11 did. Missouri and Kentucky voted it down, although the pro-seccesion forces set up a rival government, and in Kentucky's case, even managed to control the state capitol for a bit before being pushed out.
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Cheekio posted:'surprise skewed polls' Hillary wins Iowa? Hillary is ahead in Iowa. In literally every poll.
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Cheekio posted:So when are we expected to see big downturns in Sander's campaign? He's doing fine against Hillary in Primary states, is it just supposed to keep looking better until 'surprise skewed polls' Hillary wins Iowa? Where are you seeing him doing fine against Hillary in primary states? I thought all the polling was showing him maybe competitive in NH but Hillary leading by fairly wide margins just about everywhere else.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:42 |
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Greatbacon posted:It's specifically quoting Proverbs 22:4, which is "By humility and the fear of the Lord are riches, and honour, and life." -King James Version When I decide to go full Politcal Supply Side Jesus Galt I'm going to hang up a pic that says: "Thou shalt...kill. - Exodus 20:13".
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:42 |
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Remember the story a week or so ago about the Idaho rancher who got into a shootout with cops over his dying bull? Turns out that wasn't the whole story. The cops shot the bull with M16s but didn't kill it because they are dumb. The rancher arrived and took out his rifle to finish off the bull cleanly. One officer turned him around by grabbing the rifle while he had his finger on the trigger and he incidentally pointed his rifle at the officers and may have accidentally fired it pointed at the ground, which was enough for them to light him up and put a gun to his nephew's head. Oh and his wife had a heart attack at the scene. Is calling for the brutal murder of all police still frowned upon?
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:44 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:Is calling for the brutal murder of all police still frowned upon? Yes.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:48 |
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Please use a guillotine, we're not monsters.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 17:51 |
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So I tohught we might all like this article. This article, besides showing why I am a sceptical Sanders supporter ovr Hillar, shows that the Democrats will eventually need to muzzle the neoliberals that still infest it. Gaurdian posted:Leading architects of the “New Democrat” movement are sounding the alarm over a lurch to the left in the party, after candidates at the latest presidential primary debate confirmed a resurgence of more populist economic policies. Because they at the end would rather the teabaggers dominate congress then actual protections against their paymasters be passed.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:12 |
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Link the article and maybe quote your favorite part, don't quote the entire article
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:22 |
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Crowsbeak posted:So I tohught we might all like this article. This article, besides showing why I am a sceptical Sanders supporter ovr Hillar, shows that the Democrats will eventually need to muzzle the neoliberals that still infest it. These fuckers should be the first against the wall with how economic growth is apparently their only concern. More especially because they for some reason think that "spreading the golden gooses eggs" will somehow kill the goose. loving aristocrats.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:32 |
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Greatbacon posted:Please use a guillotine, we're not monsters. well, yeah, we're monsters but we're not monsters about it
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:34 |
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RuanGacho posted:These fuckers should be the first against the wall with how economic growth is apparently their only concern. More especially because they for some reason think that "spreading the golden gooses eggs" will somehow kill the goose. Seriously, these boot-lickers can't die off fast enough. The problem isn't that all the economic gains are going to the rich, it's that there isn't more! (that would also go to the rich)
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:35 |
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Fix posted:Trump is great, pushing this pic of Rubio stuck in some dumb meme. This is better than my Cruz, but it would be best inside the little square cruz is in.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:38 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Because they at the end would rather the teabaggers dominate congress then actual protections against their paymasters be passed. Liberals have always handed the guns over to the right whenever the left seems to be gaining power.
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What counts as "The South" is not nearly as clear cut as Northerners (or Southerners) want to believe. Want to define it by the Mason-Dixon? Cool, that includes Maryland and Connecticut. Which may be cool with you. Former Confederate states sounds good til you remember Kentucky. Or West Virginia for that matter (Hi Jesco!). Texas and Florida may seem like a lock to a lot of people, but they have their own unique cultures too. Plus there is more to the South than race. Living in Missouri my whole life I've never been much on what is usually considered southern food. I've never had grits. I don't drink sweet tea. My family or friends never made chicken and waffles. I've never had crayfish. I don't even know what collard greens are. This whole discussion isn't even touching on sports culture, gender, or sexuality. Or poverty. Or military fetishism. My point is, it seems to me the entire concept of "South" exists so white Northerners and white Southerners can feel superior in there own ways. Because of that it is almost impossible to create a definitive list of Southern states.
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Lotka Volterra posted:Seriously, these boot-lickers can't die off fast enough. The problem isn't that all the economic gains are going to the rich, it's that there isn't more! (that would also go to the rich) Your faith in trickle-down economics is lacking, friend. Now I know your faith has been tested by the previous 30 years of the utter and total failure of trickle-down economics but you have to understand that much like the rattlesnake in certain churches, its success or failure is entirely up to you and your faith. If you get bit, or if your country's economy skews towards the very wealthy almost exclusively, it's because you didn't believe hard enough. Go to the polls and vote Republican with a faithful heart (or the ER with some fang-sized holes in you) and try again. Four years from now if it didn't work and you're still not rich, well, whose fault is that? I think we both know the answer.
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I feel this map provides a pretty clear outline of what the South is (New Mexico and Utah excepted). e: lmao I just noticed the map maker was too lazy to get a clean map of the US and labeled the edges he didn't clean up Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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Crowsbeak posted:So I tohught we might all like this article. This article, besides showing why I am a sceptical Sanders supporter ovr Hillar, shows that the Democrats will eventually need to muzzle the neoliberals that still infest it. quote:"But inequality is not the biggest problem we face: it is symptomatic of the biggest problem we face, which is slow growth.” gently caress youuu, New Democrats
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alpha_destroy posted:What counts as "The South" is not nearly as clear cut as Northerners (or Southerners) want to believe. You want to run that by us again?
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:51 |
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Doesn't settle the conversation, but in WA people I know consider Missouri to be Midwest. (Everything that doesn't touch water is Midwest. )
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:52 |
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alpha_destroy posted:What counts as "The South" is not nearly as clear cut as Northerners (or Southerners) want to believe. Can you walk into any restaurant and order sweet tea and they bring you a delicious glass of sweet tea? You're in "the South." Do they say, "No, but we can bring you some unsweet tea and some sugar packets?" You may not necessarily be in "the North" but you sure as gently caress ain't in "the South."
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:53 |
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JonathonSpectre posted:Can you walk into any restaurant and order sweet tea and they bring you a delicious glass of sweet tea? You're in "the South."
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 18:57 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:You want to run that by us again? gently caress, I meant Delaware. I am so stupid. Still. I wouldn't generally call Delaware the south even if it was a slave state.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:01 |
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JonathonSpectre posted:Can you walk into any restaurant and order sweet tea and they bring you a delicious glass of sweet tea? You're in "the South." This is the only way to truly tell tbh
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alpha_destroy posted:gently caress, I meant Delaware. I am so stupid. Still. I wouldn't generally call Delaware the south even if it was a slave state. I'd call it more like a punctuation mark.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:03 |
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The sweet tea thing is actually a working theory of mine, but I base it on what you get if you walk into a restaurant and ask for iced tea. Asking for unsweet tea in northern Virginia got me stared at like I was an idiot
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alpha_destroy posted:gently caress, I meant Delaware. I am so stupid. Still. I wouldn't generally call Delaware the south even if it was a slave state. If Wiki is to be believed, slavery was extremely marginal in Delaware by the time of the Civil War anyway.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:11 |
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You guys are approaching the issue from the wrong direction. Instead of trying to determine Missouri's status as a Southern state, it's much easier to figure out if it's in the Midwest. In fact, there's a simple, 100% guaranteed method of determining Midwesternness for lack of better term: If the Gathering of the Juggalos has been held or was scheduled to be held in your state, you're in the Midwest. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Nov 8, 2015 |
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There are racist assholes throughout the entire drat country. Pretending systemic and institutional racism are a uniquely "Southern" problem is disingenuous at best of times.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:15 |
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Missouri became a southern state when Mizzou joined the SEC.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Missouri became a southern state when Mizzou joined the SEC. And Notre Dame and Louisville are in the ACC.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Missouri became a southern state when Mizzou joined the SEC. This is a fair test for being in the south.
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# ? Nov 8, 2015 19:27 |
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Cythereal posted:There are racist assholes throughout the entire drat country. Pretending systemic and institutional racism are a uniquely "Southern" problem is disingenuous at best of times. I like to think of it like this: it's all the racism from everywhere else in America, plus a fat giggling pervert on a porch in a white suit, drinking tea, ogling his own kids toiling in the field.
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