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Vulture Culture posted:or just boil a pot of water on the stove This is a good idea; when the stones fall into the pot, you can make stone soup.
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SynthOrange posted:Cant be that hard to do! I like how the manufacturer made no attempt at all to hide the edge of the squares. Could have made it some kind of tessellated pattern, but no, glaring vertical and horizontal lines in that wall. Although, if I had to install that abomination, I would have at least put the small strip at the top so the overhang of the upper cabinet hides it to some extent.
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Nov 8, 2015 20:03
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I think the best bet would be to destroy one section so you have a pile of loose stones, and between each section, fiddle the stones in to loosen up the line a bit. It'd still look like poo poo though. But at least it wouldn't look like gridded poo poo.
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Nov 8, 2015 20:14
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I think the pebble look is great on the floor of a shower pan but anywhere else is just a big wtf? Also they probably didn't want to spring for the more expensive all white or black or blue or whatever rock sets so those are the cheapest bottom of the barrel rocks possible. I think i've seen them at home depot.
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Nov 8, 2015 22:08
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What do they cover the pebbles in? The picture earlier in the thread had them embedded in grout, but if they're on a backing sheet that's not an option, is it? I mean you'd have to embed them in something to leave a (mostly) flat surface or else you'd never be able to clean that poo poo.
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Nov 9, 2015 02:48
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They'll just use the hot glue gun to fill in between the stones.
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Nov 9, 2015 02:58
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GotLag posted:What do they cover the pebbles in? The picture earlier in the thread had them embedded in grout, but if they're on a backing sheet that's not an option, is it? No, you can grout that. You'll put thinset on the wall, stick the mesh side of the sheet on that and then grout. Thinset is a concrete product that doesn't have to look pretty and is therefore inexpensive, while grout has standards of appearance and costs more.
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Bad Munki posted:They'll just use the got glue gun to fill in between the stones. I just threw up in my mouth.
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Nov 9, 2015 07:56
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Home Depot sells sticky sheets for small wall tile, no mastic necessary. I think it's one of those stupid things. Edit: yep http://www.homedepot.com/p/Smart-Tiles-10-13-in-x-10-in-Peel-and-Stick-Mosaic-Decorative-Wall-Tile-in-Bellagio-6-Pack-SM1034-6/203279176
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I'm moving to Richmond, VA and toured some of those fancy converted loft apartments today that typically cost an arm and a leg. The last building I toured appears to have been renovated by drunk carpenters. The floors were sloped at at least a 30-degree angle. To the point where I'm sure if I put any sort of chair or table with wheels it would slide down. Apparently the warehouse itself was built on a hill and when they added new flooring and did the conversion a few years ago they decided that using a level was for pussies. The hallways were hilly, even the elevator was slightly tilted  . How the hell did this get approved? And how are people paying out the nose for rent at this place? I toured another similar loft right next door, built on the same hill, and its floors were perfectly normal, so someone really hosed up here. It's kind of hard to tell in the photos since it just looks like I tilted the camera, but I swear my phone is level. It was uphill to the window.   Still better than than the basement apartment/ that had its windows all sealed so they were inoperable, including the one in the bedroom clearly meant to be a fire escape.
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Nov 10, 2015 07:17
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Well are you going to rent it?
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packetmantis posted:Well are you going to rent it? Hell naw, I'd wind up with vertigo. Also the leasing agent helpfully informed me that the "restaurant" below was in fact a nightclub and the bass was clearly audible upstairs.
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Youth Decay posted:Hell naw, I'd wind up with vertigo. Also the leasing agent helpfully informed me that the "restaurant" below was in fact a nightclub and the bass was clearly audible upstairs. Doesn't take long to get your sea legs. The dump I'm living in right now (for another 2 weeks) is a wooden house on uneven stumps - it's 100 years old and all wonky. I'm used to doors not shutting, swinging open, sticking*, and anything I drop go rolling far away. That's just the floor. The ceilings! welp... E: Let me tell you about horse hair lath and plaster walls. *some doors were removed because the frame got so out of square they were inoperable. Fo3 fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Nov 10, 2015 |
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Nov 10, 2015 16:43
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Activity for the day: Plot the footprint of this house for setout Also the plans are slightly off the stated scale
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Nov 10, 2015 22:30
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Those fonts and dimension strings are triggering me as a draftsman.
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Nov 10, 2015 22:33
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The designer must have had a bad day. There are 3 houses on this site, The first one is perfect, got all dimensions with totals so guys like me don't have to deal with interior wall bullshit, the second one is missing the depth and width for an entryway, nbd, and then this one is the other one.
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Nov 10, 2015 22:37
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If you've got that in PDF or something I could re-dim it for you in a second.
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PMed and sorted... 
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Nov 11, 2015 00:07
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Jaguars! posted:Activity for the day: Plot the footprint of this house for setout As someone who doesn't know anything about this, what are the "210"s and "90"s all over the place for?
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Nov 11, 2015 00:18
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The exterior walls seem to be 210mm thick. Most of the dims are going from inside to inside face of walls and then tiny dims showing the total wall thickness. But sometimes the dims are from the middle of the wall and the interior walls seem to be 90mm thick. Dims are usually always a pain in the rear end to read because architects hate construction crews, but these were specially terrible to read. There's also quite a few "schools" of how to dimension things and it can really depend on taste but also who/what the drawings are for. This was my attempt to make better ones, or at least ones that when used together answer some questions. 
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Nov 11, 2015 00:26
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Yep, width of interior and exterior walls in milimeters. More important is that it's impossible to plot from the dimensions given because we don't know how long the lounge is, how deep the entryway is, or anything about how the kitchen wall relates to the garage. (We know how wide the kitchen is, whoop de loving do!) Here's the front house on site:  From a surveyor's point of view this is awesome, I just use the outside set of dimensions and I have the outline of the house in 5 minutes, and since the end point coincides with the start point, I know that the designer hasn't hosed up any of the dimensions. Here's a migraine from a few years ago. (Baronjutter, avert your eyes.)They needed the position of the lift shaft marked on the ground. How far from out from, and how far along, is the lift shaft compared to the wall at the bottom of the page? Hope you enjoy counting toilet stalls! I think I eventually got a foundation plan that showed how far it was left right, but I never got anything else stating how far from the wall it was. 
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Stolen from another thread, I thought it belonged here. http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/11/police-discover-worst-cable-management-situation-ever-following-sydney-marijuana-bust/ 
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Baronjutter posted:Those fonts and dimension strings are triggering me as a draftsman. Is that Comic Sans?
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kid sinister posted:Is that Comic Sans? plans sans pitié
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Xlorp posted:You might say it was... Can you translate for those of us that don't speak internets gay? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Biscuit Joiner posted:Stolen from another thread, I thought it belonged here. Something about it looks like a Beksinski painting to me.
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Biscuit Joiner posted:Stolen from another thread, I thought it belonged here. Where's the huge mechanical spider that made it?
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there wolf posted:Where's the huge mechanical spider that made it?
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kid sinister posted:Can you translate for those of us that don't speak internets gay? Plans, the subject of the picture, rhymes with sans once you dump the serif Sans pitié could passably translate as brutal, an appropriate description for some construction aesthetics Overall an efficient punne, or play upon words
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Xlorp posted:Plans, the subject of the picture, rhymes with sans once you dump the serif "Plans serif" would be a pun. "Plans pitié" would also be a pun (that practically nobody would get). "Plans sans pitié" just translates to "Plans without mercy," which is not a pun at all (although it would be an okay name for a metal band, I suppose).
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Nov 11, 2015 06:59
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Jaguars! posted:Here's a migraine from a few years ago. (Baronjutter, avert your eyes.)They needed the position of the lift shaft marked on the ground. How far from out from, and how far along, is the lift shaft compared to the wall at the bottom of the page? Hope you enjoy counting toilet stalls! I think I eventually got a foundation plan that showed how far it was left right, but I never got anything else stating how far from the wall it was. If I was still in construction (flooring sub), I would refuse to bid on this. As I'm in commercial real estate now, I might look at these, but this is terrible and I hope someone gives the architect poo poo for that.
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this is unchristian
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crazypeltast52 posted:If I was still in construction (flooring sub), I would refuse to bid on this. As I'm in commercial real estate now, I might look at these, but this is terrible and I hope someone gives the architect poo poo for that. If I knew then what I know now, I'd have done the same. I laid out the columns for the main building as well, it was a steel frame. The guys running it had a bad habit of calling us and expecting us to be on site in one or two days, and being in the middle of the financial crisis, we enabled them. The day before the columns were set to be erected, they called me and told me they'd checked it and it was all wrong. (I distinctly remember the all). It was the biggest project I'd ever done at the time so I was making GBS threads myself. The upshot was I went and checked everything with the site's #2 guy acting as my assistant and everything's drat near perfect. Turned out they'd decided to check a 60mx120m building using a 50m fiberglass measuring tape in one of the windiest sites in town, and then got all worried that the measurements are half a meter off what the plans say they should be. The next time I was there, I asked how the frames had gone and they said that the worst one was 20mm out and the framing guys had found the whole job really easy. So what started as me nearly wetting my pants turned out to be a nice confidence booster.
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crazypeltast52 posted:If I was still in construction (flooring sub), I would refuse to bid on this. As I'm in commercial real estate now, I might look at these, but this is terrible and I hope someone gives the architect poo poo for that. Actual estimating software is a boon for thinks like this. It's like a paint by numbers, the only skill is in recognizing how and where you'll have waste and rounding up things like adhesive and applying the right production rates.
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My guess is that the architect or draftsman used to be a machinist or mechanical engineer. By dimensioning like that, you're establishing what points are your origin for machining operations; it makes the tolerance stacking a lot easier and to some extent defines how the machinist should be doing their setups. Why they'd think that was appropriate for an architectural print is beyond me.
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Tim Thomas posted:My guess is that the architect or draftsman used to be a machinist or mechanical engineer. By dimensioning like that, you're establishing what points are your origin for machining operations; it makes the tolerance stacking a lot easier and to some extent defines how the machinist should be doing their setups. What, you don't mill your house out of a single block of aluminum?
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Aaand now I have another item for my "won the lottery" to-do list.
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Splizwarf posted:Aaand now I have another item for my "won the lottery" to-do list. If so, at least make it a submarine or something.
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canyoneer posted:If so, at least make it a submarine or something. http://www.migaloo-submarines.com/
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StormDrain posted:Actual estimating software is a boon for thinks like this. It's like a paint by numbers, the only skill is in recognizing how and where you'll have waste and rounding up things like adhesive and applying the right production rates. We looked at PlanSwift and I think MeasureSquare? Is measuresquare a thing? I was researching the software and we went with another provider, but that software definitely helped a bunch.
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