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The artist for the Tarot Deck is pretty awesome! She did cover art for a friend of mine's book earlier this year, and I'm thrilled to see her artwork on the cards! 
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I bought the book today and the employee informed me that they were placed on the shelf by a group of faceless men who were hissing the whole time. Made me smile. Can't wait to start reading it.
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Welp, I'm glad I listened to today's episode at work during the daytime.  Also I totally checked out that "what's on the other side of the world" website. Nothing but ocean, so that throws out my plan to dig my way to Australia next week.
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Oh gosh.  https://twitter.com/CecilBaldwinIII/status/661253132077273088
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I caved and bought a deck. They're too beautiful not to!
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The woman that did the art is from Kansas City. She's in charge of our local Nigh Vale fan group. She's a wonderful person and I'm so happy that this finally go picked up. I think she's worked on this for something like 2 years now.
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RedMagus posted:Welp, I'm glad I listened to today's episode at work during the daytime. Sure am glad I listened to it alone after dark. No, not glad. The opposite of glad.
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Attempted sniper under flight path delayed Cecil's flight out of San Diego.  also, lol 
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My Kindle started telling me I had 1 minute left in the chapter/20 minutes left in the book. It stayed like that until the end, about 2hrs later. Time doesn't work in the Night Vale ebook, either!
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MariusLecter posted:Attempted sniper under flight path delayed Cecil's flight out of San Diego. when the pilot got on the intercom to announce the delay he made it sound like sniper delays were a normal thing anyway we the live show crew are all safe in denver now and im going to go get high
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Earwicker posted:when the pilot got on the intercom to announce the delay he made it sound like sniper delays were a normal thing Coming out of San Diego? Oh yeah all the time. It's like a shootier form of geese down there.
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God, the Crowdsurge ticketing fee is obscene. THIRTEEN DOLLARS on 35 dollar tickets. Goddamn rent-seeking parasites.
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If I just signed up as a monthly donator is there a way to get previous show notes?
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:If I just signed up as a monthly donator is there a way to get previous show notes? no, that would be a ton of work to try to catch everyone up each time someone asked us. sorry, and thanks for donating!
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maxnmona posted:no, that would be a ton of work to try to catch everyone up each time someone asked us. sorry, and thanks for donating! No worries! Thanks for producing my favorite podcast!
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Y'know, Maxnmona, all the donation management stuff would be easier if you used Patreon or a similar preexisting infrastructure.
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DoctorWhat posted:Y'know, Maxnmona, all the donation management stuff would be easier if you used Patreon or a similar preexisting infrastructure. 2 things: I don't think Patreon was a thing when they started looking for dollars, and I'd assume at the scale they operate, it's might actually worth it to use their own infrastructure.
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Was the 1 of 1.5 people who clapped for SA at the book interview  Great talk! Still waiting in a huge line to get my book signed.
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Heard an interview with you guys on NPR driving home for Thanksgiving yesterday. I had no idea about this or its connection here. The clips they played were good I will check this out.
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Today's episode was great  Who played the Emissary?
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Get Parsons in more often, he's a goddamn rockstar.
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Welcome to Night Vale: The Most Tragic Slide Whistle
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This is kind of a weird question, but was the character of Cecil fleshed out before you had a voice for him, or was he developed in tandem with the talky guy? I've only just gotten into this, about 20 episodes in. Had some highs, had some lows, kind of wish the surreal humor of the first few episodes was still the focus but I'm happily engaged in the weird character antics of Cecil and Carlos and company. Was Cecil envisioned from the start as gay, or was that an addition from the actor? Do you guys plot out things in advance, and have you been doing so from the start? Is Cecil really just a mad man alone in a radio room imagining Night Vale? Or is Night Vale imagining a mad man in a radio room?
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I'm like 75 percent sure Cecil only became Cecil because everyone kept referring to the narrator as Cecil early on
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BottledBodhisvata posted:This is kind of a weird question, but was the character of Cecil fleshed out before you had a voice for him, or was he developed in tandem with the talky guy? I've only just gotten into this, about 20 episodes in. Had some highs, had some lows, kind of wish the surreal humor of the first few episodes was still the focus but I'm happily engaged in the weird character antics of Cecil and Carlos and company. Was Cecil envisioned from the start as gay, or was that an addition from the actor? Do you guys plot out things in advance, and have you been doing so from the start? I think I know how maxnmona will answer this question: Yes. He's always very vague about this kind of stuff
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The fact that he's referred to as "the voice of Night Vale" says to me that he was originally supposed to be just the narrator and gradually developed into a character. That's happened to a lot of incidental characters over time. Remember when Steve Carlsberg was just some random guy that Cecil hated for no good reason? On one hand, that was a lot funnier, but on the other I like that he's grown into something more complex.
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Kazy posted:Today's episode was great One of the best episodes yet. Basimah 
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Kazy posted:Today's episode was great I did
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Absolutely stellar episode and a return to form of what I really enjoy from the show. If I can ask, and I don't want to sound like a Tumblr-ite, but can you share some thoughts on the appropriateness of white male authors writing non-white, non-male perspectives. I see this with Ms. Marvel's portrayal as a Muslim woman too, that there seems to be a tendency to want to portray "assimilated" characters, especially from progressive writers that want to set themselves against the disgraceful and insane rhetoric of the Islamaphobic right. Could (should?) Basimah been portrayed as willingly (as a matter of her own faith, etc.) wearing a niqab and / or burqa for example? I worry sometimes that presentations like this have a subtext of "this is how to be a good westerner." I don't want to suggest that one portrayal is more diverse than another, or claim any moral superiority here.
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Great episode. The new characters were a lot of fun, but my most excited moment was another mention of The Distant Prince. I've been hoping for a while that him and The Smiling God were the beginning of a whole Lovecraft style pantheon, so I was stoked to hear him come up again.ZorajitZorajit posted:If I can ask, and I don't want to sound like a Tumblr-ite Why do people have this weird compulsion to apologize for caring about other people's feelings? Jurgan fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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Jurgan posted:Why do people have this weird compulsion to apologize for caring about other people's feelings? Because sadly "respect other people" is becoming the exception rather than the rule.
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If I may try to clarify, I'm not looking to disclaim a desire for inclusivity and representation in fiction. But, I also understand that WTNV came under some contention earlier over a debate that charged that portrayals of Cecil as being white were inherently racist because of a particular line the character spoke. I bring this up as an example because the debate became heated and was in part directed at the writers and actors, not as a matter of tone policing or to position myself on one side or another. I wanted to ask about Basimah's portrayal as perhaps more "assimilated" to Western ideologies and the considerations that might entail for white, male, western writers. I apologize if this inquiry is out of line or undeserving of an answer. I hoped to broaden my view, but if, in doing so my privilege caused aggression I sincerely apologize.
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ZorajitZorajit posted:But, I also understand that WTNV came under some contention earlier over a debate that charged that portrayals of Cecil as being white were inherently racist because of a particular line the character spoke. I'm pretty sure Cecil's race has never been specified or hinted at in the podcast at all. The tendency for some people to assume that any given character is white unless otherwise specified - i.e. the idea that white is a "default" - is certainly a tendency that often has racist elements, but that has nothing to do with the writers, nor with NV in particular. Hell sometimes people will still assume a character is white even when the writer specifically says otherwise as happened with the Hunger Games books and then films. As for Basimah I think it's a bit much to say that you have any idea how "assimilated" she is from that portrayal, considering she doesn't really discuss her thoughts on religion or culture with much depth at all and is there to talk about her feelings for her father. The only mention of her religion is more as a detail than as a statement on her actual ideology. For example, personally I sometimes wear a yarmulke on religiously appropriate occasions, but usually I don't. There are other Jews who wear them every day, to the office or to school or whatever. What does that tell you about my actual spirituality or my thoughts on Jewish culture vs. assimilation into mainstream gentile culture? It really tells you practically nothing at all, it's a superficial detail - sure it might give a hint one way or the other but doesn't nearly approach the depth of actually getting at someone's ideology.
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Earwicker posted:I'm pretty sure Cecil's race has never been specified or hinted at in the podcast at all. In "History Week," it says that the first white people arrived in Night Vale in 1745. In "[Best Of?]" it says Cecil was in the desert that would become Night Vale and saw people arriving "from back east" to found the town. Some people read this as Cecil was living in the area before "the first white people arrived" and therefore could not, himself, be white. "[Best Of?]" was such a confusing episode (and one that I personally didn't care for) that I hesitate to read too much into it. We don't know what it really meant- it could be Cecil time-traveled back to the founding, for instance. Anyway, that's why some people assume Cecil is canonically POC.
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[Best Of] is fantastic and everyone trying to jam the purposely confusing episode into canon for deep revelations is a ding dong
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Jurgan posted:In "History Week," it says that the first white people arrived in Night Vale in 1745. In "[Best Of?]" it says Cecil was in the desert that would become Night Vale and saw people arriving "from back east" to found the town. Some people read this as Cecil was living in the area before "the first white people arrived" and therefore could not, himself, be white. "[Best Of?]" was such a confusing episode (and one that I personally didn't care for) that I hesitate to read too much into it. We don't know what it really meant- it could be Cecil time-traveled back to the founding, for instance. Anyway, that's why some people assume Cecil is canonically POC. Well there are a lot of other assumptions that you'd have to make for that to work out such as time functioning linearly, Cecil being over 200 years old, tape recorders/radio existing in 1745, etc.. and none of these things are established one way or another. Literally The Worst posted:[Best Of] is fantastic and everyone trying to jam the purposely confusing episode into canon for deep revelations is a ding dong it caused people to post screenshots of spectrum analysis programs looking at my "tape click" sound and I enjoyed that.
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I will assume until told differently (at which point I will place fingers in ears and shout la la la i am not listening and continue to assume) that Cecil is a salt vampire from that one Star Trek episode and that he looks different to everyone that sees him. If you disagree you are a racist against salt vampires.
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