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VideoGames posted:i asked this in the other thread but i wanted to know your guys reasons too: Unlike FO3, New Vegas has competent writing.
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VideoGames posted:
It's generally the quality of writing. There was some gameplay stuff too, like gun modding, hardcore mode etc but mostly just the writing.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:19
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streamer walked through a wall to get to a door behind it he could open thanks Todd
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Nov 9, 2015 10:20
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kirbysuperstar posted:It's generally the quality of writing. There was some gameplay stuff too, like gun modding, hardcore mode etc but mostly just the writing. ahhh! i never did hardcore mode and the only gun modding i did was using mods themselves. the writing on both never seemed that much different so i can safely say it was the way I was playing it.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:21
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Khanstant posted:Yeah there's this secret country a little bit more east than New Zealand but they can't fit it on globes or maps. Ya' never know. I've seen Steam change a region's release time at the last minute many times. Usually an unannounced delay, but rarely a game unlocks early.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:21
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Fallout 3? 'tis a fine game, but 'tis no pool, English.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:23
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Dan Didio posted:Fallout 3? 'tis a fine game, but 'tis no pool, English. shut up queer
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Nov 9, 2015 10:24
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i really enjoyed the Dunwhich Building, the nuka cola quest, THOSE! the two superheros, the quest where you fix the election and wandering around the ruins of DC (like the museum). maybe my standards are lower.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:26
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VideoGames posted:i really enjoyed the Dunwhich Building, the nuka cola quest, THOSE! the two superheros, the quest where you fix the election and wandering around the ruins of DC (like the museum). maybe my standards are lower. I liked most of those.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:27
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Hasn't the NZ release been delayed 2 hours already?
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Dan Didio posted:I liked most of those. and the vaults! thats my favourite part of the games. going round the vaults! i hope there are a few in this one too
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Nov 9, 2015 10:28
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Mordaedil posted:No they didn't. I wish people would stop trying to misrepresent the facts this way. They were assfucked by an industry standard contract that was really loving bad and reviewers not giving the score needed to earn them the bonus they'd want/earned. Bonuses tied to Metacritic is not industry standard.
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super mutants as levelled enemies you can take out fresh from the vault with a broken 10mm pistol vampires android railroad little lamplight "son, i've heard rumours you destroyed an entire town with a nuclear bomb. your mother certainly wouldn't approve. we need to have a serious talk about this later." quote:Hello, Capitol Wasteland, this is Three Dogg... ARoooooo! Here with the latest news, don't snooze! Arooooo! Three dog! The Lone Wanderer, that evil bastrad just got a lady her violin back... but asked for a reward! Aroooo! Galaxy Radio! In other news, the Lone Wanderer, that wicked twisted man, he saved the orphans... but then told them to piss off! Fuckhim! Aroooo! Three Dog! Dear listeners, you will not believe these latest news... the Lone Wanderer has just saved the entire Capitol Wasteland and destroyed the Enclave... but in an evil way! Arooo! This is a radio station like in reality! Arooo! Three dog! Aroooooooo!  the massive fight over who gets to push the button you have to push the button there's a lot ive mentally blocked out by now. PM me more stuff and ill add it TTP ThreeFingerHoek fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Nov 9, 2015 |
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Nov 9, 2015 10:31
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Mr Beens posted:Bonuses tied to Metacritic is not industry standard. EA does it, Ubisoft does it, others do it yeah no it's a standard
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Nov 9, 2015 10:32
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ThreeFingerHoek posted:super mutants as levelled enemies you can take out fresh from the vault with a broken 10mm pistol none of those things bothered me. i liked the android railroad a lot, that was neat. it was my first bethesda game so levelled super mutants was not something that got me and i thought the vampire quest was pretty funny. a lot like people in real life who believe themselves to be vampires. the rest seemed fine, except for the push button thing but when I played it I had broken steel and fawkes as my companion so it wasnt the same. plus i never played as an evil character. i think it was the way I played it that allowed me to miss these issues.
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VideoGames posted:none of those things bothered me. i liked the android railroad a lot, that was neat. it was my first bethesda game so levelled super mutants was not something that got me and i thought the vampire quest was pretty funny. a lot like people in real life who believe themselves to be vampires. You're right, you do have low standards. Read any War and Peace or Crime and Punishment lately?
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Nov 9, 2015 10:41
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mackintosh posted:You're right, you do have low standards. Read any War and Peace or Crime and Punishment lately? not since being at school. though i did enjoy them. its OK gamer, its cool to enjoy a whole width and breadth of things. it doesnt make you a bad person.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:43
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VideoGames posted:not since being at school. though i did enjoy them. its OK gamer, its cool to enjoy a whole width and breadth of things. it doesnt make you a bad person. Oh there's nothing wrong with enjoying schlock, we all do from time to time, but FO3 had some egregiously bad writing to the point that it's insulting.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:49
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I thought New Vegas was a lot less interesting to explore than Fallout 3. The writing in NV was definitely way better than 3, but I enjoyed my time with 3 a lot more due to all the fun I had exploring. Never finished NV, was pretty bored by it.
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VideoGames posted:i really enjoyed the Dunwhich Building, the nuka cola quest, THOSE! the two superheros, the quest where you fix the election and wandering around the ruins of DC (like the museum). maybe my standards are lower. FO3 had a huge amount of cool things dotting the map that had nothing to do with the game proper that encouraged exploration. It was cool. NV had better writing and deeper quest chains that took you all over the map. It was cool. Fallout 4 is going to be cool.
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Mr Beens posted:Bonuses tied to Metacritic is not industry standard. I'm sorry to crush your little bubble, but it sadly is. Still is. VideoGames posted:A lot of the time people say 3 is poo poo compared to NV's glory. I wanted to ask what the cause of this is? i loved both and didn't feel much difference between the two of them. they pretty much seemed like the same game with different locations. Main differences to me is that New Vegas allows you to use iron-sights to aim your gun, which is really a feature you feel is missing when you go back to playing Fallout 3. Modding the guns is nice too, but not entirely gamechanging, since it was introduced as inspired by community mods for Fallout 3. And generally I feel those mods did it better than New Vegas anyway, especially the ones you can get now where you can put mods on and off and get a cool list of them. Story wise, let me put it like this. Early on in Fallout 3 your dad tells you that you should stay in the vault, because it is the safest place he can imagine for you. He then later leaves. Which as a consequence causes the Overseer to go on a rampage and try to murder you. Essentially, your dads actions made the vault the least safe place on Earth to you because of his stupidity and he did not possess the foresight to bring you with him. When you then later meet him in another vault, you are presented with no options to blame him, he only asks why you were stupid enough to leave the vault and tells you that doesn't matter and runs out on you and never brings it up again. Early on in Fallout New Vegas, Benny shoots you in the head, telling you the chips are up. You have no idea why this man in a fancy suit shot you in the head and you survive by a fluke. As you travel seemingly in his trails both to get answers and perhaps revenge, you stumble across clues to what machinations are in place, the state of a great war, why they are a standstill and you eventually find out all his conspirators are really willing to abandon or even betray him. You might start to take pity on him. The game does not presume to tell you how you want to feel. When you arrive in New Vegas and you've been given a clue to where Benny is, you finally get to confront him and you have a dozen ways on how you want to handle it, from sleeping with him, arrange a meeting with him (and get ambushed), to a straight up firefight in the casino, to letting him get away and deal with him later. He even has escape routes in the casino through back doors and stuff, so nearly everything about this plot makes sense. Benny has an actual goal and you were just dealt a bad hand. You can ask him in detail for why he did what he did, spill the beans on what must happen and how to take control. Can you see how the theme of these games might be a bit different?
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Anyone planning on VPNing should know eastern Australia unlocks at the same time as NZ, due to the two-hour delay.
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Nov 9, 2015 10:58
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Mordaedil posted:Can you see how the theme of these games might be a bit different? Oh Yes I can see, but I never got as deep into either story as that. I never wanted to blame my dad in 3 and in new vegas I never felt sorry for Benny. I had a completely different experience to what you played through. It didn't quite touch me the same way.
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Hancock is Captain Shank a Bitch I know who I want with me
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Krazyface posted:Anyone planning on VPNing should know eastern Australia unlocks at the same time as NZ, due to the two-hour delay. Staring at the Steam product page from my home in eastern Australia, it still says it unlocks at midnight. So three more hours to go for me.
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Says 15 hours for me, looks like we got shafted and our release has been pushed back to 2am just like NZ did. I guess I'll be doing a VPN after all. Get hosed Bethesda.
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FWIW, I played through NV at least 4 times. I couldn't bother with Fallout 3 even twice. NV definitely has much more of a "choose your own adventure book" style of storytelling that I think suits the genre much better than Fallout 3's more traditional 'knots of string with occasional funnels' The goddamn dialogue is so good too.  jesus christ I'm salivating, less than 3 hours now
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VideoGames posted:I never wanted to blame my dad in 3 and in new vegas I never felt sorry for Benny. I had a completely different experience to what you played through. It didn't quite touch me the same way. You're really good at keeping yourself detached from a fictional story; you're really good at it. Awww, you're so good. Such a good boy, yeah, you're a good boy. Yes you are, yes you are!
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Nov 9, 2015 11:12
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When are the reviews coming out? The goon opinions from the two(why?) Fallout 4 threads in Games are mostly filled with low effort troll posts and no real information.
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mackintosh posted:Says 15 hours for me, looks like we got shafted and our release has been pushed back to 2am just like NZ did. I guess I'll be doing a VPN after all. Get hosed Bethesda. shoulda chosen an Australian VPN. Less than 3 hours for me 
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MoaM posted:You're really good at keeping yourself detached from a fictional story; you're really good at it. Awww, you're so good. Such a good boy, yeah, you're a good boy. Yes you are, yes you are! ok? this is a really strange post.
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snuff posted:When are the reviews coming out? The goon opinions from the two(why?) Fallout 4 threads in Games are mostly filled with low effort troll posts and no real information. Somewhere around 8-9AM PST. Basically the same time it officially unlocks for 'someone'.
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VideoGames posted:ok? this is a really strange post. Well, you are basically saying you don't really get invested in whatever you're doing. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, sometimes you just want to sit down and have a mindless experience. RPG's just aren't usually the best tool for that job.
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snuff posted:When are the reviews coming out? The goon opinions from the two(why?) Fallout 4 threads in Games are mostly filled with low effort troll posts and no real information. Monday, November 9th at 8 AM EST We weren't allowed to know this until November 6th at 10AM PST, due to the embargo that Bethesda / Zenimax put on their embargo.
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The plot/story in New Vegas is literally constructed the way a good Dungeon/Game Master for a pen and paper RPG constructs their stories/campaigns/games. It's all hooks to draw the player in and reactions to the players choices. The games story is consequently far far better off for it.
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Slugnoid posted:shoulda chosen an Australian VPN. Less than 3 hours for me I have mine set to Syndey in the vpn software and AUS - NSW in steam and I am still showing 19 hours. Any tips on what the hell I am doing wrong?
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Mordaedil posted:Well, you are basically saying you don't really get invested in whatever you're doing. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, sometimes you just want to sit down and have a mindless experience. RPG's just aren't usually the best tool for that job. no I didnt. I said the story touched me in a different way. i never blamed Dad in Fallout3. i felt that he was driven to save everything at the expense of himself and his family. thats what I got from that one. I felt as though he never truly forgot his main drive which was water purification. with NV I thought Benny was a rat. i felt as though he was doing something very different to what you thought. looking out for himself and only himself, such as wanting to take control of New Vegas with YES man. thats not the same as not getting invested.
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