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Nonsense posted:In other news of gross violations of African American students not necessarily on campus. This is absolutely terrible and makes me ashamed that I was once a (military) police officer and associated with police officers. On the other hand, at least they are starting to be equal opportunists when it comes to unwarranted and unprovoked beatings.
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stinkles1112 posted:Yes they do deserve empathy because they were gratuitously misled by the powerful and persuasive into voting directly against their own self interest and that is a bummer man They're poor rurals driven by spite and racial resentment, not someone's slow kid who believes in Santa at the age of 14. That doesn't necessarily mean they should die of preventable disease but it's probably good to continually point out how hosed up their beliefs are while making sure they don't die for lack of penicillin or heparin or whatnot.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:30
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Veskit posted:Semantics aside why would "systematic oppression exists" be a wrong answer when a black person to his face asks what is systematic oppression? So do you want a president who panders or a president who gives his own honest answer?
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Nov 10, 2015 00:32
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A university president's job is to pander. All that nitty gritty stuff is done by the provost.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:33
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hobbesmaster posted:A university president's job is to pander. All that nitty gritty stuff is done by the provost. Pander and fundraise.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:34
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hobbesmaster posted:A university president's job is to pander. All that nitty gritty stuff is done by the provost. Yeah a university president's job isn't to stand right there registering incoming freshmen. I mean sure they might do it as a publicity stunt but the role is largely political as opposed to operational.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Pander and fundraise. But you repeat yourself.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:38
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Amergin posted:So do you want a president who panders or a president who gives his own honest answer? Pander, that means money. Black people need money this is an easy answer.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:45
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Veskit posted:Semantics aside why would "systematic oppression exists" be a wrong answer when a black person to his face asks what is systematic oppression? He's implying that he believes any answer he gives will be the wrong answer, which is a stupid thing to say, but not a firing offense. I'm very skeptical that people should be fired for poor statements.
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hobbesmaster posted:A university president's job is to pander. All that nitty gritty stuff is done by the provost.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:50
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Pander and fundraise. Basically, yes.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:52
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Radbot posted:"These grown men and women have repeatedly rebuked Obamacare at the polls, but they know not what they want. They deserve empathy for their decisions, because I have decided they are wrong. Poor widdle Southerners." Luckily Matt Bevin won 100% of the vote so everyone can be condemned to die in penury. Oh wait.
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Nov 10, 2015 00:57
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god damnit i was really hoping that mizzou bullshit would stretch on a couple more weeks so that the ut game would be super cupcake
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Nov 10, 2015 00:58
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The Warszawa posted:For what it's worth, the Yale stuff is part of an ongoing series of issues on campus and the perceived absence of any response, adequate or not, about the stuff leading up to the Halloween stuff. There's more that goes back further but I'm hesitant to read institutional memory into student activism. I agree with you in that, that kind of environment cab be suffocating. I know many goons think "safe spaces " are silly but it seriously sucks when people do all kinds of racist poo poo and it's excused with free speech. Also the whole incident reminds me of the movie Dear White People.
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Nov 10, 2015 01:27
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ayn rand hand job posted:Spreading poo poo swastikas is a firing offense, I agree. For his lack of action (which is an action by itself)? I'd hope so.
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Nov 10, 2015 01:27
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Senator Cruz, you've taken a hard line saying that abortion is murder, but if you were given a time portal to 1889, would you take the opportunity to go back and perform an abortion on Hitler's mom?
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Nov 10, 2015 01:32
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seiferguy posted:Senator Cruz, you've taken a hard line saying that abortion is murder, but if you were given a time portal to 1889, would you take the opportunity to go back and perform an abortion on Hitler's mom? You know he'd respond with something about it not being his choice.
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Nov 10, 2015 01:37
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FAUXTON posted:You know he'd respond with something about it not being his choice. Nah, he'd just go on about "gotcha" questions and hypotheticals until his time was up.
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Nov 10, 2015 01:39
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/features/marchtoinequality/onedeclineoflabor/ TPM starting a series on the decline of labor rights and rise of income inequality. i feel like this must have been done many times before but it's nice to see it on a fairly popular site
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Nov 10, 2015 01:46
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blackguy32 posted:I agree with you in that, that kind of environment cab be suffocating. I know many goons think "safe spaces " are silly but it seriously sucks when people do all kinds of racist poo poo and it's excused with free speech. It may suck but it's still free speech.
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Nov 10, 2015 01:55
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FAUXTON posted:They're poor rurals driven by spite and racial resentment, not someone's slow kid who believes in Santa at the age of 14. That doesn't necessarily mean they should die of preventable disease but it's probably good to continually point out how hosed up their beliefs are while making sure they don't die for lack of penicillin or heparin or whatnot. Yeah nobody was talking about whether or not to advocate against their politics, we're saying that you should maintain a healthy level of empathy and understanding of the root causes of these phenomena rather than dehumanizing people for getting sucked into what we CONSTANTLY POINT OUT on this forum is a well-oiled political propaganda machine that works with startling efficacy. making GBS threads on poor, ignorant people for being poor and ignorant is just as bad when nice liberals do it as it is when those inbred horse-fucker bog-people do it god damnit they deserve their miseryyyyy 
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Nov 10, 2015 02:02
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Amergin posted:It may suck but it's still free speech. Burning this cross is just one of many of our venerated Observances and Rituals.
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Rygar201 posted:Burning this cross is just one of many of our venerated Observances and Rituals. Also free speech.
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Hillary got called out for insulting a voter today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlwXNM-XtNY
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Amergin posted:Also free speech.
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Nov 10, 2015 02:13
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Reporters are so salty that the Mizzou students don't wait too talk to them. Much like they were when HRC's campaign used a mobile rope line to keep them in their reporter zone. My contempt for reporters continues to grow. ^^Tons of white dudes on the Internet think all speech is protected, forever, everywhere, from everyone. The cops, DAs, forums moderators, whomever.
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HP Artsandcrafts posted:If you can prove it the intent was to intimidate or threaten then it's not protected speech. Very true! Rygar201 posted:^^Tons of white dudes on the Internet think all speech is protected, forever, everywhere, from everyone. The cops, DAs, forums moderators, whomever. Not just white dudes! And unfortunately for you, most speech on the Internet is hard to prove as having the intent to intimidate or threaten. Plus, y'know, the sheer vast amount of it there is on the Internet.
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Nov 10, 2015 02:17
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JT Jag posted:Don't hate the voter, hate the wedge issue that keeps them voting against their best interest.
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Fried Chicken posted:In what probably qualifies for self harm, I ended up volunteering for a 2016 race before the results for 2015 were even in. (There will be a primary fight to take on Susan Brooks, so Election Day is in May as far as it matters for us right now) Kinda OT, but isn't that an R+11 seat? Why is there a Democratic primary? Did Susan Brooks get caught with a dead intern or something? Are there really two candidates who want to put themselves through a Congressional run? Or is this a case where you have a semi-serious flag-bearer and a crazy person, and the crazy person is forcing a primary?
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I think people are capable of having sympathy for persons who find themselves in a bad position after foolishly voting for it, while at the same time chastising them for blindly voting against their best interests. The best thing to do is try and protect the people from their own actions in KY, even if they'll hate the person for helping them.
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blackguy32 posted:I agree with you in that, that kind of environment cab be suffocating. I know many goons think "safe spaces " are silly but it seriously sucks when people do all kinds of racist poo poo and it's excused with free speech. I don't really have an opinion on it, to be honest, I just think the Halloween costume issue has gotten disproportionate focus as if it's the sole issue when it's really more of a culmination of various things and the Halloween thing was more of a last straw of silence or something. Here's a student talking about it.
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Joementum posted:Hillary got called out for insulting a voter today.
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Sorus posted:I think people are capable of having sympathy for persons who find themselves in a bad position after foolishly voting for it, while at the same time chastising them for blindly voting against their best interests. The best thing to do is try and protect the people from their own actions in KY, even if they'll hate the person for helping them. Ok but chastising someone for doing something dumb has rarely had the effect you want it too
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Boon posted:Ok but chastising someone for doing something dumb has rarely had the effect you want it too Same with thinking you know someone's "best interests" better than they do.
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Boon posted:Ok but chastising someone for doing something dumb has rarely had the effect you want it too Perhaps not for the person being chastised, especially if they're already on a mental "war footing" with regard to civilized society. However, anti-smoking advertising made a lot of references to how many people ended up dead from smoking, and plenty of their other TV spots pointed out how smoking fucks you up before killing you. Hell, there's plenty of examples of where campaigns on the message "DON'T BE A loving IDIOT LIKE THIS STUPID gently caress" worked for military enlistees, who nobody ever accused of being worldly intellectuals.
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Nov 10, 2015 03:18
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HP Artsandcrafts posted:If you can prove it the intent was to intimidate or threaten then it's not protected speech. Good luck proving an offensive Halloween costume was intended to do any of those things.
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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computer parts posted:Same with thinking you know someone's "best interests" better than they do. I don't think there should be laws but its obvious polite presentation of facts isn't protecting America from itself lately.
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Nov 10, 2015 03:29
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Someone who hates women and minorities so much they would give up affordable medical care for their chronic illness if it meant they could stick it to those groups: someone with their head on straight as an arrow.
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